The Glacier Blue Beetle That Refused to Die | Tony Hall's Incredible VW Restoration Story Ep75

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to Dublife Diaries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, picture by in your dream, 1958 Volkswagen Beetle, you're online and you find it for less than $2,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds like the deal of a lifetime.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Until you show up and you discover that the entire car is scattered across the driveway in hundreds of pieces.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you get it home and you realize the title doesn't even belong to the car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, most people would have walked away, not Tony Hall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What followed, though, was a year's long journey involving a nationwide search for a former owner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a preacher who held the key to saving the title across country, restoration, one of the biggest builder scandals the Volkswagen community has ever seen, heartbreak, betrayal, an emotional reunion with the very car that he thought he lost forever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This isn't just the story of a

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a story about obsession, determination, and just how far some Volkswagen people are willing to go to save a piece of history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you've ever rescued a project, chase down impossible parts, or trusted their own builder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even if you've ever wondered if that one car was worth all this pain, this episode is going to hit home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to Wife Diaries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host, Joe

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the incredible journey of Tony Hall in the parts to Car Saga and the unforgettable 1958 beetle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it right here behind me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony, welcome to dublife.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: not just trying to chill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for coming on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All done with shoutouts, my friend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's back to you now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Back to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, take us back to the night that you bought this beetle behind me on eBay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What made you hit that bite now, button?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I was going to

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[SPEAKER_01]: cruising out to Saddlebrook, New Jersey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I run from Harrisburg be at a Saddlebrook in my UPS truck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I got into the building and at some point during the ride, I saw it online on eBay, whether I would stop for a couple of minutes or I saw it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is probably middle of the night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It intrigued me because at that point I had built a car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I knew it was

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[SPEAKER_01]: an older like the picture behind you a new was it had been around and it really hadn't been mess with much and uh so the guy had it listed and it was just one of those prices like either I do this or I don't and I just I just hit the bite now and we just let it rip and see where we can go with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you pull up in the driveway in Buffalo and you see that this car is spread out into however many pieces in the driveway, what was your first thought?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well my first thought was, I had a fifth year at the time of black one and this was a little bit special because it's a one-year-old color, but my first thought was the price that I got at that, the ports.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was still okay

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't talking back and forth was going to go back a little bit back and forth with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I figured out that he didn't have a title for the car and we had gone back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe I hit the buy it now was 2,200.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I had informed them that you didn't have the title and we went back and forth and basically agreed to 1800 dollars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I figured at that point, wow, this is like 19 or 20 that the parts alone, it had their original radio, it had their original seats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It had everything was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It had just been put away inside and uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't expecting it to be out there like a yard sale when I showed up, but it was, it was definitely spread out, but I figured I wasn't buried too bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you see all this, you say it's worth it, but curious, did you ever even for one second, did you consider a man, I'm a walkaway?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I didn't quite know how I was going to get it all done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, from, I didn't have a place for the corner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I barely had a place for my other 58.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then off-site storage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really didn't even have a place for the car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when we picked it up, it filled up the trailer and the back of an avalanche.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one guy was, we took two buddies with Jeremy and Colton, Colton was squeezed in the back with parts all around him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, the trip up was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the trip up to Buffalo, which was 10 hours was great or whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I tell you what, it wasn't when the adrenaline's gone in your dragon at home, it's like, man,

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[SPEAKER_00]: How long is it taking you guys to load everything up three dudes?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It took a good couple hours to try to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was still a roller.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we were able to push it up and load a bunch of stuff in the car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So but we had to come up with a pretty good plan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't remember, we probably had a few moving Blake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's to cover some stuff up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it took a few hours to get that thing loaded.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know we were, I think when we left, it was dark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you had mentioned now that you had already discovered that there was an issue with the title, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you utilized that for negotiations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess what was the next discovery then?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you realize now that whatever the VIN number was that he had advertised was that not what matched the title?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what was, I remember you saying there was another big issue in the paperwork or another big dilemma.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was the next big dilemma?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the thing, the problem, after talking to him and he starts sending me pictures more and more pictures more than what was on the eBay posting, it was very apparent that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a type of a graphical error.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the last three of the van were 333 and this was literally 6, 6, 6, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever in line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was in an upper down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a very type of graphical error.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At the time, Maine had, I was just figuring, heck, Maine gives out titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really hadn't got into all that, but Maine was a bring a pay for kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you stated the value and they really mean with where I was told would do the best path to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I kind of put that in my back pocket and said we're going to get these parks and see what we can do with this thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: On issue and titles, how difficult is it to correct issues with with with titles for you at the at the time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not necessarily in the review, I guess, but in your state, I guess more or less.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there was Pennsylvania.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was really nothing I could do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I tried to

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because what we were going to end up doing, I guess Maine would have ended up being a, he wrote me a Bill of Sail.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was going to go with no title, Bill of Sail, to Maine, which now, there's a few states now that do it also.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at that time, Maine wasn't as cheap as it used to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maine had caught on, and they were,

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[SPEAKER_01]: they were assessing their own values for the car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I think a title for that $1,800 car would have cost me $800,000.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's pushing close to 50%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, yeah, I'm like, it's really one of those things that I really want to go this route, because I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't really know what was gonna happen when the car was not good enough to just be put back together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But so I really didn't know the path.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, at 50% of the cost was just not looking like where I wanted to go with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I kind of had to get it home and push it in store to see what figure that part out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep working on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing I can relate to that Florida is pretty tough with titles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are a title, you know, theory, state, meaning they issue titles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I recently had had a conversation with a guy up in Connecticut, and I was going to get a bay window of bus from him, and he didn't have a title, and he originally had told me, he's like, no, I don't have, I don't have the title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but upon doing some research, I had discovered that will Connecticut does an issue titles on classes or cars that are over 20 years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, well, that's strange.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So right, I'm like, that's awkward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what do you do, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do some research and I find out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the car is registered and Connecticut and the the seller can prove that it's currently a valid registration you take that registration down to the DMV and Florida and they would treat that as it's a title and then they would issue you a title based on that so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bro, that was nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, is it registered?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, send me a picture of the registration.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Boom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like play ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it actually think of way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw things, right, because a lot of times you see these cars for sale all over the country.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there are some states that are not title states.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it changed the way I looked at things, you know, as far as whether or not somebody has a title to offer with some of these classic cars because, well, if it's a state like Connecticut, all you needs a valid registration and you can get your title, you know, down here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, and through the years, I think I had somebody that lived in Georgia, that was the same deal, they were a bill of state bill of sale, and then I reached out to their DMV, well, they have an inspector on site, so you have to be there with the car, so it turned that turn into something different and there's just so many avenues, I mean, this thing behind me, this thing has a, uh, what do you, sorry, it has a, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, lean on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you call it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It had an engine fire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you call that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll start over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what do we call that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So did it did did somebody owe money on it like a mechanics lean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's It just went refurbished title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah rebuilt title rebuilt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This car behind me has rebuilt title out of Charleston.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: I bring it up here and I go through and get this thing done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to get a special inspection to get it off re-built before I can title it in P.A.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which is $300 and they want to keep this thing for two weeks and drive it and figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a no-shock 4 inch beam in the front and I have no idea who's going to be driving this this little race car and what they think is a good bug and what's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's so many things going on now that

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, as I've gotten older and wiser, I mean, basically, sometimes I say, well, it's insured.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going down the road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or, you know, this is a Vin, this is a new title and a Vin played in a mountain down the road, well, did a new Vin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So because it's 58 before we move, before we move past it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Still trying to solve all of these issues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think next step in your story was tracking down the original owner, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have a lot of windshield time cruising around in the truck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I, I,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I finally, it just hit me one night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I had the title from the previous owner and the Bill of Sales when they changed hands to the sky I bought it from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he had a very distinct name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I just clicked the light bulb when I'll fill in my, I can find this guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I started that avenue of trying to find this guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was a simple, it started out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which kind of put me on to Facebook.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it didn't take long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have a very current, a very current Facebook page but a few years earlier, he had changed jobs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was a preacher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had changed jobs to working in a mission.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe is what it was, or like a halfway house type mission set up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like, well, this is worth a shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I waited until the next day, because this was all at night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The next day, I made the phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His name was Todd Van Ryan, RYN.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was just one of those names.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, how many of these guys am I going to find?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So even if it's a handful, I'm calling out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was Facebook, said he was still in Wisconsin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where the wind from Wisconsin to Buffalo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I called his work, because I didn't have a number for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I called the work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think his house number came up somewhere and it was disconnected.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I called his work and they said, yeah, he's here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's out doing a walk around the building.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a manager.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll have him give you a call.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And lucky enough, within an hour or so, he called me up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we were on to something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what was that first conversation like he in very excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He goes, man, I remember that car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he, yeah, even to VW guy and he really, it was his daily, it was early 2000s when all this time it went down for him when he had it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was literally, but it was more like the early 2000s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he said he drove it a lot and he actually used it out in front of his business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember his business was his advertisement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, uh, his business expanded and that was what he needed to take the cash flow from this little car and expanded his business and it went on its way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, did you explain to him at that time that you were having this issue with the title?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I had called.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had already looked into everything and I, I, what I did as I said, hey, we, you know, we went through all the nice cities and, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: all the Volkswagen talk and really getting excited and uh i told him i said hey i kind of have a problem this thing when this they titled this car to you there's a type of graphical error on this thing and he's like really goes and it's never been retired ago no this thing's still in your name i said i i looked online and with constant will do a vinn alteration

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's all laid out and I've kind of started the process and I said, I need what I'd like to do is I'd like to send you three priority mailed letters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to send out the one with everything in it and it's going to have a letter for the envelope and they'll, I put a little tabs every report on the sign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I try to make it because the bullet proof is possible, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I just need you to send this title to Wisconsin and they're going to send it back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's done and I sent you a pre-paid envelope to send it back to me, is that something you're willing to do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It goes absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, this is really just going to take this from a pile of parts and this is going to be a car again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It goes absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was just a waiting game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was really excited to get this thing sent off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it probably been kind of back of the mind three, six months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just kind of, what am I going to do with this thing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, because I couldn't send it out to do anything with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, what am I going to do with it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was really a cool, cool thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I swear, and I say this, I'm sure you'll agree with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Stuff like this only happens in our community, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there are stories like this, you know, all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are stories where old owners, et cetera, you know, are always willing to kind of go that extra mile to help the next double, you know, especially if we're ingrained in the VW community at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we all have that word in my car go if they're really special to you really you know you really have that where's that thing now What's going on with it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you hope it doesn't get away from you, but when it does it's like where's it at right right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So curious have you talked into to this to this dude since then?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I have it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will have to he's still in my phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to certainly send him attacks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of I think I send him a few pictures along the way

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[SPEAKER_01]: letting know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I still have his number.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's move over to build in the car now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got the title now, fast forward a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now the project in a sense can can begin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what kind of of dream or vision do you have for this, this beetle behind me here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: My dream for that car was basically get it suspension.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The interior was I had people

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[SPEAKER_01]: Locally, I had one of the guys that with me Jeremy, he was a paint guy at a Ford dealership, so that was a little bit complicated as to whether we were going to be able to get it in there and how long it would be there and what that would cost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was the first plan, what can you do with the thing rust repair, why is it, or is that something that they'd be willing to do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then basically the seats, they had just busted the scenes where the piping was so they were all there, the door cards were really nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was going to be back on its feet and run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I really didn't have anything with suspension.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even have any engine, you know, we were going to patch it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, put it on the ground and kick it and see what it would do and just just prove it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We really just wanted I had fallen in love with that color that's silver blue and it really And you know, I'm not a one-year-old kind of guy, but it is that you know, you don't seem around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a cool color.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but I really didn't want to do a whole lot with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just was going to be a little suspension and go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd never had big engine cars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that that was even on my mind at the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you ended up going with somebody else for a lot of your metal and your bodywork, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I ended up looking around, and I had for my Black 58, I had purchased suspension beams and trailing arms and stuff from Sam Manis at Valley Auto Works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they had him and his dad do about one or two cars

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[SPEAKER_01]: do really good rust repair and that they were going to blend in the paint when we got down to talking to it we're going to do a little bit of blend to get it back to you know looking presentable but we really were it was going to come out of their role or it was going to come out of their ready you know I took the engine had their original engine with it so I took that one down there and said hey let's try to stab this and see what we can do and even when it went down there

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think he was going to do this suspension because he was going to have the body off and do all the rust repair so yeah, so we made we made the right it was about it's about a four or five hour drive down there and really, really good people and just good work and how long on the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, how long was it there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right three or four months and maybe that long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he really keeps you updated as much as he can and and which goes a long way because when dealing with builders, it's just really it's hard when you don't know what's going on and he really, you know, there's a file on even on his website now that has this car and all the different steps that it went through and it's really need to go back and look at what him and his dad did to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't think much of it, but I don't do that kind of work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, and it's nice to see it moving along.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was there for a while before I started getting an inch to do something else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just talking to another set of folks I had on the podcast just a couple of weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we were talking about, you know, status updates and pictures and stuff when, you know, when somebody's car is at your shop and, you know, you're doing things, et cetera.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was saying from a customer's perspective, I've always kind of like that feeling of,

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[SPEAKER_00]: being on the receiving end when you receive pictures of progress, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because regardless of who you are, how much money you're spending, it's a thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you like you said a minute ago, if you fall in love with the car,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's now gone and it's you're you're used to being able to look out in your driveway every day and and visualize things and dream or in your garage or whatever and now it's gone, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're it does that there's a void and and that kind of gets filled with when these, you know, when these shops end up sending you, you know, progress picture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was cool to hear you say that, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've always, I was going to correct that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a trade-eling arms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He does spring plates.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of stuff I'd ordered for him was spring plates and my beams from him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He does air stuff and then he does a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, really good advice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not too far away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, then you were saying that, you know, before you, it took you just a little while before you started thinking about your next project.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, what was your

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if it's the VW world remembers J.B. Bugs hit the VW world in 1920, probably Mill of 1920.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, into 2020 and it was a frenzy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he was buying and flipping and moving and growing as a business, what he was putting out there, he just had this whole thing going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he, and I really wasn't, I mean, I, you know, just like when,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't sit down and look at the class files on Sunday, but I'm always on marker place looking for the next thing to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Me too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when he's and when he's throwing that stuff and he's just throwing it out there and throwing it out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like man, he really had something going on for a little bit or so everybody thought and he was buying up everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So at one point he ended up with a a 59 rag top.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this thing, when he first got it, it basically looked like a harlic one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it had different color panels all over the thing and it was, you know, he was just getting into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he was just getting it going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And funny story it actually came out of PA and he and I think he's an Indiana.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he had he had bought it up in his ventures.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had bought it from PA and it ended up over there and I ended up meeting the guy who sold it to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, he was just buying everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, always a small world in the dub in the dub community.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this thing, you know, I watched the progress on this car and my dream was to have a right actop at some point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, well, it came out of pain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can never say it, uh, big net, whatever the board is, green, and my GO&E, TTE, whatever that is, you know, something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's a green.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a really cool green.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it actually looks really like the 58 behind it, it really looks good, faded out too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this was the first painted, and it had come out, and I'm like, and I had been talking to him just like everybody else, Ramlin, all the time, hitting him up for this or that, well, you're gonna have to ask for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, yeah, I think this is the one I got to have, you know, and so I talked to him for a little bit, and we came up with a price for that car as a roller, and I didn't even have the right way to have the mechanism, but he hadn't no interior, nothing really going on with it, and it was just a roller out of paint, and so I made the deal on buying that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I had these two cars, I was my third, but two 58s and a 59.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I really, I don't think I can support.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna run off and build this thing in Indiana when my, you know, the blue cars down south, believe he's Tennessee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, I was like, man, we gotta figure something out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I let it go and he was working on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was still blowing smoke all over the place and but still, you know, he was trying to keep me updated on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a little bit harder to get those information out of him here and there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, we're working and then finally I got to the point like, hey, I had a pretty big chunk in that blue car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All this rust for pair was done and it was it was certainly touched everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, but it was, you know, it was it had come along and I made the deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that I would trade the role or to basically, I needed to, I basically told him, I needed to even as the blue car was sitting, I needed $8 to $10,000 credit for this car, because it's not a rust repair, it's, you know, it's, it's got some money in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's ready to be built.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we agreed, he had a, I think he had a 1776 that he was gonna rebuild.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and he was going to do the interior.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that got me down the road on the in the spring car, got the interior done, had everything, you know, it was going to be done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we made that deal and, um, and then it just kind of went from there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just, that was my next question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What looking back when or was there a moment?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's right here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where you realized

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[SPEAKER_01]: The J.B. bugs was about getting you on the hook.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the bad builders, the one, like if you talk to Sam, Sam is not there to hype.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's there to work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's doing his work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to, there's no hype to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I've run into a couple builders.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think

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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that you need to remember is that if you, it's like buying a car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you go in with that excitement, then you're on the hook.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you go in with that and it's hard not to be really excited about building a car on this end it just really you know it really isn't it's just one of those things it's this is going to be awesome that's that's all it's just going to be awesome and I think he was one of those guys that just fed he could feel that he was a car on man and he he fed into your emotion we can do this we can do that I mean to the point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you're wrapped up with that, they didn't want to talk about his personal life, what he's got, you know, I'm going to be on TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be doing this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to come and see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because this is 1920.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This stuff's still going with gas monkey, or whatever, all the things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything's still going like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Two thousand, two thousand, 20.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 2020.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: OK.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that stuff is still going a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And discovery, all these places are still put.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you get, I think you get wrapped up in the emotion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like I was a young man, but you still get wrapped up in the emotion of having this thing done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we prayed on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was really then less and less pictures.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It always answered, but he was going to a meeting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was still pretty present.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't be on a date.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely fucking producers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so, you know, and, you know, that stuff didn't press me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's not what I cared about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he was throwing his business and he was busy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Luckily for me, I was one of those guys that, if he was treating me well, I'm hypinning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling him, hey,

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[SPEAKER_01]: go with, look at this, buy this from JB Bugs, do this, do you know, you know, I support my community when I think things are good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, sure, sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, luckily for me, I didn't, you know, I wasn't one of the guys that he really completely just stole from, but he certainly, it's certainly what I expected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's touch on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to pick this rag top up now, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so the plan I had to get a hold of Stan and Sam's like, yeah, we're, we're at this point and we're going to, I can complete this up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I needed to make a run and I'm like, all right, well, I'm going to come down to you and grab that car and I'm going to get someone from Tennessee to Indiana.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just made a loop, me and my dad hooked up the trailer and we're going to make this road trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we went down and got the blue car and made sure Sam was taking care of and we've been on from that and we went up to Indiana and got there and he, you know, cordial and everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see a picture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know what to just die look like until the last the week before I picked it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He'd zoom called me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how he didn't have his face online, even though he was doing all his stuff in the background, I really didn't see him to the last minute when he wanted to tease me with some Zoom call and show me this car or whatever, you know, towards the end, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because he had done some some suspension work and he wanted to show us some stuff off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, we got there and the car was complete and it was sitting pretty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The paint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he did some things happen at the end where you know, um, the interior never got done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The it wasn't running very well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was running okay later found out that the car was backwards and hooked up backwards and there was no way that it was going to get the right throw for him to run right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the actor that just so myself and all the listeners are are going to be able to put this together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is after your glacier blue 58 had already gone back to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You'd already traded that thing back away, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: For for this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, so to finalize the deal, I took him to the glacier blue and gave him it the day I picked up the the green one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we made this we made the swap at that point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I dropped one off the trailer and was picked up another one up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We went out for the test.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I took it for the test for Ivan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a little rough running.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I think I was a little forgiving for what it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I shouldn't have been, but you know, it's a 59 bug.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this wasn't a huge bill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't, because I mean, the paint was okay, but it's very rough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it looked good, but it wasn't great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It had like a texture on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the one thing I wasn't prepared for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You couldn't run a microfiber over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would grab the microfiber.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was, yeah, it was different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the interior wasn't done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, oh, I got the headliner put in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he put in a dimple to headliner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm, that just drives me crazy in the older ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, dude, I told you not to do that, but he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then now that we've gone through the emotion I'm getting all the way here and all the height.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we're here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: things running.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It went down the road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything seems fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not exactly what I want, but, you know, I can wrench a little.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can do stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll make it mine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got it loaded up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He threw some parts at me and threw some wheels at me and, you know, kind of got me, you know, ushered me out the door and kind of made me happy trying to get me out the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and his whole steam hadn't fallen apart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, I was one of his customers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't one of his through scam artists, but I was one of his customers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of kept a dream alive for him so he could do something else on the side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he could work his other bullshit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so right here, you know, along your timeline, then this is probably when you started to realize other people are actually having similar experiences as you, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How did you cover that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what it actually what happened was, I got home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got it home and the next shoe I forgot this the next day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The trunk lid latched and I couldn't get it open and we had to drill the thing open, which was a mess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then I got in the garage and we kind of tinkered with it a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm like, man, I don't get this thing out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We get this rag top open, I don't get this thing rolling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I went,

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[SPEAKER_01]: maybe 10 miles on the high.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I scooted down around local a little bit and then I got on the highway and I was going to go north a little ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got 10 miles away and I'm like, man, something's up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could smell it for one and it was dragging the brakes for a dragon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, all right, well, I get off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get off in stop at a convenience store.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: basically the grease was leaking out of the hubs out on the front.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was that hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The grease was in the bear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What ended up happening is that he had, he had later model break parts in there that shouldn't have been in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they weren't working.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it got so hot that they were just leaking down, it came out from behind the hub cap and it was leaking down onto the rim.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how bad it

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, within a week, probably get it home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, all right, well, we still had nothing's blown up yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's, he's like, all right, send me the bill for all the parts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to send you the money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he sent me money for the parts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's still, he's still on the line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still, I'm not, I'm not scan yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The whole thing, the news articles, everything hadn't hit yet or nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're still moving along.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is probably in the 20, I think it's my time might be off a little bit,

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I had some more knowledgeable friends over and it just wasn't adding up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The car just was not put together, well, the parts weren't put together, the parts were mismatched from all of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing was period correct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it just wasn't put together very well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I got to the point, I'm like, hey, this isn't going to fly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, we, I called him and said, we need to work something out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't, this isn't going to work for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are we going to do about this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the first issue I ran into was the car behind you had been sold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it had been sold to a customer who already had it in paint with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, this car had moved on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And basically, so now I'm like, well, all right, well, what are we going to do to get?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get out of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, I couldn't listen and sell it because I knew what it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wouldn't do that to anybody locally around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew what it was and I wasn't going to kick it down the road to my,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I can sell it, or I can put it in storage for five years and see if I come back to it and feel any better about it, you know, what am I going to do with this thing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm out of car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What am I going to do with this thing and I kind of kicked it around for a while and I went back and forth with him and we came up with a number, which was not even I think I got 10 or 11 grand out of him, which.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you've got a car that I'm telling them all the problems are, and I actually, he had sent me cars and he was getting in stock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could trade me to this for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could trade him to that for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just couldn't come up with anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was over at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was an answer as much as he used to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I, you know, he got me out the door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd already gone back home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's making money off the car that I sent him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to the point where he said, I'm going to give you this money, but I work off of a fund where I can only take so many withdrawals per year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have one coming up, and I'm like, man, so I had to take, I had to take a couple of withdrawals to get to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he finally sent it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it, which, yeah, I mean, nothing it hit the fan yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was really disappointed with them and and everything that happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I, you know, ultimately you got your money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, right, I mean, right, I mean, really, you're one of the probably one of the very few lucky ones compared to some of the others, because like you said, everything, it should hit the fan and everything started making headlines, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, I maybe got 60% you know, I mean, but I,

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[SPEAKER_01]: but I was able, but during that time waiting for to get money, I was able to make a deal on another car that I thought was cool and I had the support of my friends that's fronted me money and it was like this cool VW community kind of said, all right, well, you know, uh

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went to buy, look at some cars and my buddy's front of me the money or friend of mine front of me the other money and then I had a drop dead data said, hey, if this money doesn't come through, then you keep the car and he was okay with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he pushed it all away to the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I had another buddy show up at a party with me and he handed me a box of cash and said, don't let the car get away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I do have friends that watch me, watch me trip fall and stumble, but they were still supportive and I was gonna move on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: he came through last minute and then it all came, that all finished up and then not too long after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe what really was part of the start of his demise is that he had taken money for a bus and it had sold it to two or three different people and he had started or he had a customer's bus there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure there will be some comments on it, but he had a customer's bus there that

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had sold it as his own and started like he was going to work on it for somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he was pulling a scan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was starting to get really good deep into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I mean, he had a warrant and he went on him and his wife went on the run and it was just a whole shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he could come to find out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's preyed on other communities.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's preyed on like like the off-road community had a problem with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got this thing down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's sitting in jail now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I don't know if he's still there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, what were the big items?

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[SPEAKER_00]: When the headlines came out, just, you know, from your memory, like what was the story that was made public?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe he had had so many complaints.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His business had had so many complaints.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they went in and locked down the whole facility.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When I was talking to him, he was expanding so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had to almost a whole plaza kind of area that he had taken over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was doing so many different from paint booths.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was expanding and expanding and expanding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I believe everybody's stuff just got locked down and they came in and I believe that's on the state police side came in and locked down in his whole place and and he was being charged with fraud because he had so many customers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that just finally caught on to what he was doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the one, I think the catalyst was a bust.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like a Baylando boss or split that had been sold or was promised to work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he had sold it as a car to somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was actually this customer's car and it was just a whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they basically just had to sit there and wait for their stuff to get released.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they had no shot at getting it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like I said, he went on the run with his wife and they had to find him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a whole ordeal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what were some of your biggest lessons that you took away from this whole, like you just said, ordeal?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm partheaded, but I mean, I don't just ask, I stepped in it again, but if I was to tell anybody else, because I certainly didn't, is to keep your emotions out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and a deal isn't a deal, you know, you need to look, they're great builders out there and the reason they charge more and they don't seem like this great deal is because they do with the work and they're dependable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this person over here that was doing this and other builders I've dealt with that are doing this set of, you know, two-thirds the cost to get what you pay for and sometimes and it's happened to me again, sometimes it is just

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, don't believe the height because there's a height to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I ran into another building.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a height.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you said, you said a good segment earlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You said before I started to see the smoke, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that statement, you know, it made me think, you know, most of the time for most of us as grown men, where there's smoke, there's fire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel that man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So these are, these are hope, star hobbies in our dreams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, these are, these are our, and we work hard for, you know, we work hard for the money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did it change anything for you about how you approach maybe

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[SPEAKER_00]: do diligence on the back end on the front end on the on any end i mean did it change anything for you

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, unfortunately, it's a different story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went through this again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I ended up in court having it with a builder and had to take him to court.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess I don't, like I said, I'm a hard head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, but, you know, I had to get a settlement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know what I've learned?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that cars can have a little rust, and cars can, and you don't have to be, I don't, and plus I'm older, not much older, but I'm older and I don't have the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: energy to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It takes a lot of energy and patients to go through a patient is the hardest thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it takes, it takes a lot of money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but the patients is harder for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I can a lot a little bit of money to go to a builder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I never have a, I don't sit on a pile of money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I make money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, if I can send this builder a little bit of money here and there, that I can do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the patients in the noncommunication, that's kind of when you know you're in trouble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they're just asking you for money and they're not, they're not really, that's the only time they talk to you or you have, you know, I mean, some of those, that scenarios like that, that really, that's the stuff that hurts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've gone to a point and I've had a few different kind of cars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's car behind me right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has a little rust on the bottom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has a little stuff, but it's not going to fall apart while I'm alive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to, you know, I'm going to put it down the road, you know, if it, if I feet aren't going to go through the bottom, I'm going to drive it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm, I'm past the restoration.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do that then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's move past the, let's move past the restoration talk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about finding this beetle again because that's part of your story as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How did you eventually end up finding this beetle behind me the glacier blue beetle that you eventually traded away?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, when when the shit hit the fan, the, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can imagine everybody online was talking and there was a lot of talk and at some point I had I believe I put up a post hey this was my car anybody know what happened to it it was supposed to be built here to sit in the shop where it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and a gentleman Mike DeVane out of he ended up being in Delaware.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's three hours from me, two hours from me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, yeah, I had that car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had it, you know, I in the post, I'm like, hey, I think it was painted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was told it was painted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not blue anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But do we know what's going on with it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he hit me up and I'm like, yeah, I mean, by the time that how long was this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How much time has passed now just for everybody to connect with this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, within six or eight months, I believe, because he was pretty well along.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That car was almost done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he had the interior done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He the paint was done and he was, he was just doing last little touch of stuff on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got it painted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he'd done it painted with, um, with JB and then that's really all the contract he did with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had it painted and then they got, they sent it to him and he built it in his house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so at that point, actually, when I came along, he was looking for a builder for his engine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and there's a local guy that I put him on to that built the actually built the engines for the blue car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, so by the time I got down there, so it was within the year, but I got down there, like it says, two hour drive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, there it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a, yeah, well, it was different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was going to say what was it like seeing it after all this work now is completed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was very new.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was very, I think it had new or GTI fabric brick for seats, which is not, it's all style stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a beautiful car, very well done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was done in a gray, almost at the time, the pop of the gray, at the time, Gardo, that Gardo gray.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really well done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I just talked to him the other day and he's got fuel injected into the thing now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a big time car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't be able to afford to get it back now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's got, it's got, it's a good, good car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's, I mean, I can hang my hat that it's on the road, but I mean, it's nothing that I, it wasn't my dream for it, but I had to let that go, you know what I mean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's a very, very nice car, very modern.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that feeling, the feeling of

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[SPEAKER_00]: having a vision, having a dream for one of these cars, and then it goes to somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody else completes that vision, but it's not your vision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're able to see that car, sit in that car, feel that car, even sometimes drive that car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're looking around like

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[SPEAKER_00]: with these cars because well, they're they are unique and we don't hang on to all of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think most classic Volkswagen's live several lives?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, and you can go back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, my

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[SPEAKER_01]: my the first full swagging that I know of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I remember my dad had a 66 10 and I was less than I was eight, nine years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I and my dad, but my dad has a big dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember him pulling the shifter out of that thing trying to get it in here and he pulled that thing out and handed it to my mom and started cutting about this full swagging.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that was, you know, you're talking about 1984, 83, that was a family car, that was a 20 year old family car and he and I'm sure today if it's still around, it's probably looking like the one behind me, you know, they just go through all, you know, all the different, I don't know if there's much of family cars anymore, but when you go back to their, you know, I mean when you go, now they're toys, right, when you go back, they, they lived a heck of a life before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, before we picked them up out of the yard and through them inside, like they'd never seen rain before, they've gone through some stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we tuck them away and throw tarf on them and we get them like they've never seen anything, but they certainly have lives in the scene a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is it you think about these early beetles that keep pulling you back?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, one behind me is a 58.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One behind you is also a 58, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just 64.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sunward 64.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How about?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, because I keep noticing that we kept talking about, you know, that 58.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 59.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Only a two year model, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then this one glacier blue is only a one year model.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so, so, so pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the end of this is the end of the generation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My first car was a 69 when I was 15 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I picked up a 59, sorry, 69.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I drove that through my in the my high in 1992.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got that and drove it my, you know, sophomore year in school and junior year in high school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 96 was my first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a 72 standard veto right down here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mall Park and a lot about it, a bottle from a little lady.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was my favorite car, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think about that car all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My, I don't even have pictures of that first, so this is weird, but yeah, you do or don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's one of the only things that I really can't put a point on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, I can't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will never be able to find that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got pictures.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still have one of the registrations from back in the day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, I know that was the reference writing car I ever had though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I had a prairie dog on the desert and I think we'd almost jump off the road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That thing was, that thing was not, I think it was not lowered right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I tell you that right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That thing was, but you know, for me, at

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[SPEAKER_01]: 15, and Arizona, I drove the flaps out and just hit it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a ball right here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a ball right here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a hot spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's 1641, and it had a lower interior, which I thought was the coolest thing in the world, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we just get out and run the heck out of the thing, have fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that was, that's just like the, your first car, it's going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I mean, I don't know if I'll, I have a 61, which puts it in the same category as a 58-59, but this I have a 61 rag top that I finally got a rag top, but so that's a dream car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when we get it down, we'll see what happens when I get it down, we'll see what happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I need to have one around, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll always be one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have other dreams, but they'll always be one sitting around somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How many projects actually do you currently own right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this one's done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This one, this one basically, I had this one out today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm starting to trust this one more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Left me on the side of the road a couple of times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going through it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going through it's growing pains, but I'll say today, I shot down the road and jump on the highway and we were doing set.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was doing a seven in this little thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: This one's a, I haven't had one this low in a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so this one's a little dardy on me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm trying to get used to it that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But other, you know, I've had them a little bit a lot more suspension under them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This one doesn't have any front shocks on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a bit, it's just on its torsion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it feels a little dark to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's 70 miles an hour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not very forgiving on a, you know, you're kind of a little, little zig and zag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, make your pucker, make your pucker a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so I'm sorry, so I'm starting to trust

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[SPEAKER_01]: The 61 rag is a blue, a dove blue, and it's going to have all silver guts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I need to interior don and go through the engine and some break work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really, this one was basically a shell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've done everything on this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this one's been the most fun, because I tell you what, my grandson can come over tomorrow and throw a matchbox car at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really can't hurt this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's the fun as part of it is that fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've had, and I've had nice cars, and I really don't want to have to worry about it around my grand, I really don't want to be screeching at a grand kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a work hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just the two?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just the two right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right now, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we'll see what happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sounds like this one behind you might mean more to you though than the 61.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The 61, the 61 was kind of one of those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What my black 58 that I've talked about a couple times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It went off to a builder and I had all the parts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had all the parts to make this a rag top.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At the time, when I started the build on my 58, I'm like, it's cheaper for me to build.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was two or three years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When the market was high, with this builder, it was cheaper for me to build a rag top and everything on one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, because I want a rag top.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is my car, this is my baby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really a nice car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he ruined that car and so it went on its way and my rebound was I'm going to do a bit of a red eye top So I went and bought this blue one and done a little bit to it and we'll get it done and I'll get it done and it's not It's a little bit nicer than this paint wise, but it's not perfect and so it'll probably be the same as this it'll be a nice it may be you know my

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we can just find anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It might be one of my girlfriend's drives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you pick one up and go, that's my girlfriend's car and you get done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, man, this is of course two-day I'm low for me to drive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, I guess it's not a jersey anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you been, have you been following the paint work on my wife's gear?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, yeah, I like that a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 36.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's some cool shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's very cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, my buddy, so it started as a as an AI idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I'm big fan of the color green.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was painted like a forest green and I ended up having all the rust on the bottom fixed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was primord so it was that nice forest green and then it went into a primer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My wife was like, is the ugliest thing I've ever seen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not driving.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, yeah, okay, so it kind of started getting put on the back burner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a thing I traded away for 62 feet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got in my driveway right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got an engine in the garage waiting to go in and blah, blah, blah But it wasn't a priority and you know, we were just talking over the last couple shows here She's like, I kind of miss having a car in the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm like, well

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can put some love into your gear if you want, but you know, what do you want to do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, let's wrap it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's wrap it the brand colors of the real size.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, okay, let's do it because it was prepped and ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we took it to a wrap company and they quoted me like $4,500, five grand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I was like, hold on a second now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I know some people in the, in the, in the dub scene that can probably either do this cheaper or let's just paint the damn thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm probably getting it for, for, for less.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she did not sure what she wants to do, you know, at that time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we ended up kind of putting on the back burner again for a little while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So one day I'm messing around on chat GPT.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I take this picture of my car and design this cartoon futuristic like kind of one off, you know, really cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Use five different shades of green, you know, in the prompt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and let's see what you come up with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And dude, it's spit out fucking coolest, craziest, you know, so I got a buddy Matt McCallister who ended up doing the paint work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I sent him a picture of the AI rendering.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, hey, man, I've seen you do some cartoon work on some buses in the past.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes, dude, I can do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, let's go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he had it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he had it about six weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a little bit of travel and some other mural work and stuff that he was doing.

58:43.431 --> 58:45.293
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, he doesn't paint cars for a living.

58:46.414 --> 58:47.274
[SPEAKER_00]: He paints buildings.

58:48.095 --> 58:53.019
[SPEAKER_00]: He does big giant murals and stuff on on the sides of big buildings and stuff.

58:54.100 --> 58:57.283
[SPEAKER_00]: So pretty talented mural artists, but yeah, yeah, I've been.

58:58.993 --> 59:07.036
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it kind of reminded me that there was a guy back in the water that did the Sharpie cars, he did like a Camaro, yeah, like a Corvette did it all in Sharpie.

59:07.416 --> 59:20.421
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what a lot of the, and the end lines, the black and the white, the, you know, kind of on the edges of all of those, you know, really bright, crazy looking accents.

59:22.750 --> 59:28.333
[SPEAKER_00]: the edge work, I think is what he called it, ended up being those black lines and dude, he used a paint marker.

59:28.773 --> 59:31.075
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was, I didn't sharpie, you know.

59:32.235 --> 59:37.738
[SPEAKER_00]: I honestly, I think I, I think I love that about the paint job more than the colors.

59:38.258 --> 59:40.940
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll tell you why, because it's like a fingerprint.

59:41.560 --> 59:43.962
[SPEAKER_00]: They're a one-car out there.

59:44.082 --> 59:50.205
[SPEAKER_00]: That's gonna be the same as this one because those black lines, those outlines, they're like, they're not perfect.

59:51.610 --> 01:00:15.208
[SPEAKER_00]: I swear I think I like that's that's my favorite part about that paint job is that you know when he was sending me all the updates and all the pictures I'm like do sick guys so talented you know with all those lines are so dead dead straight and everything Well then as the end came you know I started looking I'm like oh man I've really started liking it even more because Then all the lines weren't as perfect and I'm like that's what I wanted

01:00:15.988 --> 01:00:20.811
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, this kind of comic book looking just crazy ass.

01:00:21.971 --> 01:00:22.312
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:00:22.752 --> 01:00:23.012
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:00:23.172 --> 01:00:23.933
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I got that.

01:00:24.813 --> 01:00:25.533
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's awesome.

01:00:26.314 --> 01:00:29.736
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so anyhow, back to you, this ain't about me.

01:00:29.796 --> 01:00:30.516
[SPEAKER_00]: It's about you.

01:00:31.157 --> 01:00:38.541
[SPEAKER_00]: What's one piece of advice that you would give somebody that is maybe, you know, looking at buying a project,

01:00:42.728 --> 01:00:52.955
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just maybe talk on that for a second, because it sounds like you've done it a couple of times, but what's the advice you could give somebody that's thinking of I'll start in a project like that?

01:00:55.877 --> 01:00:57.258
[SPEAKER_01]: The patience is the biggest thing.

01:00:57.518 --> 01:00:59.279
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you gonna have to outsource?

01:00:59.779 --> 01:01:01.380
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you capable of doing yourself?

01:01:03.862 --> 01:01:07.104
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, time is the biggest part.

01:01:07.144 --> 01:01:09.666
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're gonna do anything yourself, how long is gonna take you?

01:01:10.110 --> 01:01:21.549
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just assembling a car is the easiest part getting them back together is the hardest I mean, you just assemble car, that's where they go to die, you know, and that's a 90% of them.

01:01:22.390 --> 01:01:23.912
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the hardest part.

01:01:24.680 --> 01:01:48.467
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the hardest part is, and having the patience, it's hard to say going to go into it with an edge don't go in there with your heart on your sleeve because if you do, if you're talking to the right person, you know, the right person is going to be the straight forward guy you're going to think he's a dick and you're going to think he's you're going to think that I don't want to go to him because he all he wants to just work on my car and get it done well that's the guy you want.

01:01:49.067 --> 01:02:07.617
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you want the guy that's the no nonsense, you know, the guy that wants to hype you and give you ideas every other day is what he can do and what he won't always want to do with the car that's the stuff that's that's the stuff that's it feels like Biden time the Biden time, you know what I mean, they're just giving you a point it out there.

01:02:09.138 --> 01:02:14.503
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think you just need to keep your antennas up and go and really, really investigate your builder.

01:02:15.224 --> 01:02:16.885
[SPEAKER_01]: You really have to know your builder.

01:02:17.626 --> 01:02:20.449
[SPEAKER_01]: The last one I dealt with was local, I'm like, oh man, this guy's local.

01:02:21.029 --> 01:02:21.870
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be on top of it.

01:02:21.890 --> 01:02:22.471
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be easy.

01:02:23.091 --> 01:02:30.918
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter because when it comes down to it, if they're con man, if they have a game they're playing on you, they don't care if they're in your backyard, they're across country.

01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:31.939
[SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna play their game.

01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:32.560
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:02:33.618 --> 01:02:38.642
[SPEAKER_01]: You would think the guy in NDJB, he'd have something on me because I couldn't just pop into his shot.

01:02:38.662 --> 01:02:39.363
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't matter.

01:02:39.383 --> 01:02:41.705
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you popping to the guy that's down the road?

01:02:41.725 --> 01:02:42.746
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just going to hide from you.

01:02:44.878 --> 01:02:52.743
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, your builder, do your due diligence, you know, I mean, I think that's that that's that that's good good advice.

01:02:53.343 --> 01:02:54.984
[SPEAKER_00]: You said you're a knucklehead earlier, right?

01:02:55.024 --> 01:02:56.105
[SPEAKER_00]: Haven't really learned your lesson.

01:02:56.145 --> 01:03:05.410
[SPEAKER_00]: If somebody called you tomorrow offered you another pile of parts with this fantastic story behind it, you know, are you are you going to do it all over again?

01:03:05.490 --> 01:03:06.851
[SPEAKER_00]: Or do you learn your lesson by now?

01:03:09.780 --> 01:03:15.069
[SPEAKER_01]: Since I'm thinking about it, you know what I mean, I've learned my lesson to the fact that

01:03:16.648 --> 01:03:17.768
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I know where to go.

01:03:18.289 --> 01:03:21.890
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to do it again, but I'd have to be on the page.

01:03:21.930 --> 01:03:23.270
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to send it out to this photo.

01:03:23.290 --> 01:03:27.931
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to cost me an arm and leg, but I know this building is going to get it done.

01:03:28.572 --> 01:03:30.972
[SPEAKER_01]: And then what do I need him to do to get it back to me?

01:03:31.272 --> 01:03:35.154
[SPEAKER_01]: I can do interior, I can do all I can rewire it.

01:03:35.914 --> 01:03:39.135
[SPEAKER_01]: What do I need to get to him to get the rest repair on the paint done, maybe, and get it back to me?

01:03:39.515 --> 01:03:41.055
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have that with the blue car.

01:03:41.876 --> 01:03:44.056
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have the resources.

01:03:44.096 --> 01:03:44.917
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have the tools.

01:03:46.537 --> 01:03:50.801
[SPEAKER_01]: this car back here was the greatest thing because I did 90% of myself and that was the bigger thing.

01:03:51.242 --> 01:03:57.228
[SPEAKER_01]: Then, but yeah, you know, if that car came back to me again, I'd say I'd have a plan.

01:03:57.248 --> 01:04:01.753
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be able to go forward a little bit better now, but I do.

01:04:01.973 --> 01:04:02.834
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:04:04.928 --> 01:04:11.793
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I feel like I do a better, but I'm a knucklehead, like I said, I got, I fall in the same hole, maybe.

01:04:13.074 --> 01:04:15.055
[SPEAKER_00]: So what's next for Tony?

01:04:15.335 --> 01:04:16.736
[SPEAKER_00]: What, what, what you got cooking?

01:04:17.497 --> 01:04:27.844
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, car wise, there is a, there is a car that I think I got my brothers on the hook for a fast back, a late 60s fact and spack.

01:04:28.144 --> 01:04:30.625
[SPEAKER_01]: That's been dormant for about 30 years sitting in a hole.

01:04:31.566 --> 01:04:47.480
[SPEAKER_01]: It was actually sitting behind the notch back that I had, and I think we're, we're, you know, the owner knows and where we've talked about and talked about and my brother really wants to type three and, and I think that's something not going to support and we can work on together.

01:04:57.575 --> 01:04:57.815
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:04:58.436 --> 01:04:59.356
[SPEAKER_01]: This one's the fastest.

01:04:59.457 --> 01:05:00.938
[SPEAKER_01]: This is at the 67.

01:05:00.978 --> 01:05:02.239
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's got all the good stuff.

01:05:02.299 --> 01:05:03.039
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the 12 volt.

01:05:03.680 --> 01:05:05.121
[SPEAKER_01]: And but it's been set.

01:05:05.161 --> 01:05:05.881
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we'll get it home.

01:05:05.901 --> 01:05:06.542
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll go through the engine.

01:05:06.562 --> 01:05:07.643
[SPEAKER_01]: Other than that, it's a good car.

01:05:07.703 --> 01:05:10.865
[SPEAKER_01]: And I had a square back at one time.

01:05:10.905 --> 01:05:13.527
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought my brother really wanted you to haul it off and got a motorcycle.

01:05:13.567 --> 01:05:14.969
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, well, I guess you don't want this.

01:05:15.009 --> 01:05:15.969
[SPEAKER_01]: So it moved down the road.

01:05:16.330 --> 01:05:20.072
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's figured that, but probably that.

01:05:20.092 --> 01:05:21.333
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm always looking for something.

01:05:21.373 --> 01:05:22.755
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, me too, man.

01:05:22.775 --> 01:05:23.195
[SPEAKER_00]: I got it.

01:05:23.815 --> 01:05:24.476
[SPEAKER_01]: We all that mean.

01:05:24.516 --> 01:05:25.757
[SPEAKER_01]: I have other part of it.

01:05:25.777 --> 01:05:26.537
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I.

01:05:27.913 --> 01:05:33.858
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have an OBS sickness, so I have an OBS sitting outside the garage now that's done.

01:05:33.918 --> 01:05:34.618
[SPEAKER_01]: I love those.

01:05:35.019 --> 01:05:36.119
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a 90's kid.

01:05:36.240 --> 01:05:37.641
[SPEAKER_01]: If it's 90's, I'm dragging home.

01:05:37.701 --> 01:05:40.083
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I was looking at all well, drive safari bands on their day.

01:05:40.103 --> 01:05:42.044
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I can put that thing on its ass, and we can go.

01:05:42.064 --> 01:05:44.846
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I mean.

01:05:45.627 --> 01:05:48.649
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's always, like I said, marketplaces, it's bad.

01:05:49.250 --> 01:05:51.231
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a bad place to be.

01:05:51.552 --> 01:05:51.892
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.

01:05:52.092 --> 01:05:54.454
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm a marketplace, compulsive gambler.

01:05:57.097 --> 01:05:59.679
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm on, I swear to you dude, I'm on marketplace.

01:06:00.660 --> 01:06:03.602
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish this was a joke, probably two to three hours a day.

01:06:03.622 --> 01:06:05.063
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to do it.

01:06:05.123 --> 01:06:10.247
[SPEAKER_00]: Not at the same time, but like, you know, in the morning, you know, I'll get out of the shower.

01:06:10.267 --> 01:06:11.448
[SPEAKER_00]: I might be sitting in my coffee.

01:06:11.628 --> 01:06:13.970
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll scroll marketplace for good 15 minutes.

01:06:14.611 --> 01:06:17.173
[SPEAKER_00]: I get to the office sometimes between some of my work.

01:06:17.393 --> 01:06:18.954
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm scrolling, I'm looking for stuff.

01:06:19.334 --> 01:06:22.176
[SPEAKER_00]: One of my favorite things to find is just posted.

01:06:23.958 --> 01:06:27.000
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'ma find this and get it for anybody else, can, right?

01:06:28.422 --> 01:06:34.507
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you almost feel like at times there's like withdrawal, you're missing out.

01:06:34.547 --> 01:06:40.472
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the worst things that you can see is something that's badass and you can go through the pictures, but it says sold.

01:06:42.195 --> 01:06:45.716
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, I think it just taps into when we were kids.

01:06:45.736 --> 01:06:55.899
[SPEAKER_01]: We sat around with Sears on J.C. Penny catalogs and we sat around and you could pick up our weekly auto traders and we wore that thing out and then now it's the other day.

01:06:55.959 --> 01:07:06.943
[SPEAKER_00]: I used to go through one of my favorite things to do when I was about 12, 13 was pick up an auto trader that was about a year old and call the ads.

01:07:08.147 --> 01:07:08.367
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:07:08.968 --> 01:07:10.409
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the harassment I think.

01:07:10.689 --> 01:07:21.736
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd always call like the the Mustangs and the Camaro's and I'd be like yeah, are you doing call it about the Camaro the white one you got in the autotrader and be like the white Camaro.

01:07:31.021 --> 01:07:35.443
[SPEAKER_00]: But I sold that car probably, I don't know, half a year, maybe even a year ago.

01:07:35.683 --> 01:07:38.005
[SPEAKER_00]: No, well, it's in the brand new auto trader.

01:07:38.185 --> 01:07:41.006
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you saying you don't want to sell it anymore?

01:07:41.286 --> 01:07:43.347
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I already sold it.

01:07:43.367 --> 01:07:47.229
[SPEAKER_01]: The genius of that is when you find a woman that has a sold, then you have the leverage.

01:07:47.710 --> 01:07:49.230
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, that's the genius of it.

01:07:49.530 --> 01:07:50.551
[SPEAKER_00]: That never happened.

01:07:51.528 --> 01:08:00.393
[SPEAKER_00]: I was always some BTS, you know, it was just me being a punk kid trying to prank call people, but I was just telling my kids about that.

01:08:00.413 --> 01:08:01.693
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, you'll have no idea.

01:08:02.113 --> 01:08:04.935
[SPEAKER_00]: You can look up stuff on eBay and market place and stuff.

01:08:04.975 --> 01:08:09.137
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we used to have to have one picture of a car in the auto trader.

01:08:09.497 --> 01:08:14.260
[SPEAKER_00]: And all we could see was the cover picture and we'd have to call in negotiate and go look.

01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:15.860
[SPEAKER_00]: And all we knew

01:08:20.423 --> 01:08:22.105
[SPEAKER_01]: Where is the good right?

01:08:22.145 --> 01:08:23.926
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we had to decide for the code.

01:08:26.629 --> 01:08:27.209
[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome, man.

01:08:27.610 --> 01:08:34.136
[SPEAKER_00]: Where can people follow you if they want to, you know, hang with you and, and, you know, tag along with your Volkswagen adventures?

01:08:34.356 --> 01:08:38.800
[SPEAKER_00]: You got an Instagram or a Facebook or I do have an Instagram.

01:08:39.441 --> 01:08:41.383
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not because I haven't had a Volkswagen.

01:08:41.403 --> 01:08:42.323
[SPEAKER_01]: This one's just getting done.

01:08:42.344 --> 01:08:45.947
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a haul underscore VW on Instagram.

01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:48.141
[SPEAKER_01]: Paul, I'll probably do it.

01:08:48.741 --> 01:08:49.482
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a LL.

01:08:49.882 --> 01:08:50.322
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, hold.

01:08:50.722 --> 01:08:51.283
[SPEAKER_01]: You're last thing.

01:08:51.603 --> 01:08:52.203
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say, yep.

01:08:52.223 --> 01:08:54.284
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you meant Hall like Hall in S. Okay.

01:08:54.404 --> 01:08:54.644
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:08:55.005 --> 01:08:55.905
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's not email.

01:08:56.165 --> 01:08:57.006
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:08:57.326 --> 01:09:04.150
[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, yeah, Hall under Square BW, probably have more stuff on the Instagram and, uh, but other than that, I'm not a real social.

01:09:04.390 --> 01:09:05.511
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll probably be getting out more.

01:09:05.551 --> 01:09:07.131
[SPEAKER_01]: I take a lot of pictures when I have them out.

01:09:07.452 --> 01:09:09.533
[SPEAKER_01]: But I haven't had a bullet on the road in probably three years.

01:09:09.553 --> 01:09:11.834
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is, this is nice to have one again.

01:09:11.974 --> 01:09:12.254
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:09:12.314 --> 01:09:12.574
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:09:13.595 --> 01:09:17.137
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I got a question for you before we jump into some rapid fire questions.

01:09:17.898 --> 01:09:21.961
[SPEAKER_00]: Just describe the Volkswagen community for me in just one word.

01:09:23.161 --> 01:09:23.762
[SPEAKER_01]: Complicated.

01:09:24.818 --> 01:09:26.640
[SPEAKER_00]: Damn, haven't heard that one yet.

01:09:26.940 --> 01:09:28.541
[SPEAKER_00]: Good word though, complicated.

01:09:29.142 --> 01:09:37.329
[SPEAKER_00]: And from almost an outsider is perspective, because you said you haven't had one on the road in a few years, that's a really good word.

01:09:38.050 --> 01:09:41.753
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to take that at times, I'm going to agree with you.

01:09:42.093 --> 01:09:48.178
[SPEAKER_00]: At other times, I'm going to say it's probably one of the easiest communities, but the same my podcast,

01:09:51.401 --> 01:09:55.302
[SPEAKER_00]: Rapidfire questions are questions that deserve a fast response.

01:09:55.523 --> 01:09:55.843
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:09:56.763 --> 01:09:58.203
[SPEAKER_00]: If a story comes of it, great.

01:09:58.263 --> 01:09:58.804
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll tell it.

01:09:58.944 --> 01:09:59.344
[SPEAKER_00]: If not.

01:09:59.644 --> 01:09:59.844
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:10:00.164 --> 01:10:00.604
[SPEAKER_00]: All good.

01:10:00.664 --> 01:10:03.545
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just try to go with the gut fast response.

01:10:03.745 --> 01:10:04.226
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever.

01:10:04.366 --> 01:10:05.426
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever you're ready for.

01:10:05.446 --> 01:10:05.946
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you ready?

01:10:06.927 --> 01:10:07.227
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:10:07.787 --> 01:10:08.147
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:10:08.647 --> 01:10:09.107
[SPEAKER_00]: First one.

01:10:09.828 --> 01:10:11.448
[SPEAKER_00]: Oval or split window.

01:10:12.689 --> 01:10:13.329
[SPEAKER_00]: Split window.

01:10:13.749 --> 01:10:14.349
[SPEAKER_00]: Split window.

01:10:15.670 --> 01:10:17.570
[SPEAKER_00]: Stock or custom.

01:10:19.011 --> 01:10:19.411
[SPEAKER_01]: Custom.

01:10:20.809 --> 01:10:23.170
[SPEAKER_00]: patina or show quality.

01:10:24.131 --> 01:10:24.611
[SPEAKER_01]: patina.

01:10:26.392 --> 01:10:28.093
[SPEAKER_00]: Ragtop or hardtop.

01:10:29.654 --> 01:10:32.016
[SPEAKER_01]: Ragtop.

01:10:32.076 --> 01:10:34.037
[SPEAKER_00]: 36 horse or big motor.

01:10:36.078 --> 01:10:36.598
[SPEAKER_00]: A big motor.

01:10:38.339 --> 01:10:41.281
[SPEAKER_00]: Original paint or fresh new paint.

01:10:42.542 --> 01:10:42.922
[SPEAKER_00]: Original.

01:10:44.582 --> 01:10:48.504
[SPEAKER_01]: Favorite Volkswagen color ever probably the glacier blue.

01:10:48.544 --> 01:10:49.405
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't think of the other one.

01:10:49.865 --> 01:10:52.767
[SPEAKER_01]: The other one's a silver a Narrow Something color like that.

01:10:53.327 --> 01:10:54.048
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't think of a mess.

01:10:54.108 --> 01:10:54.688
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't silver.

01:10:55.068 --> 01:10:56.849
[SPEAKER_01]: Sprite of silver is a cool color.

01:10:56.869 --> 01:11:06.735
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay Favorite year beetle 58 Cool, you know, I did I tell you I had a 58 myself.

01:11:07.555 --> 01:11:07.776
[SPEAKER_00]: No

01:11:08.703 --> 01:11:15.586
[SPEAKER_00]: I had a 50, uh, when I first got back into the scene, uh, right before COVID, I ended up with a with a 58.

01:11:15.666 --> 01:11:22.229
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a yellow, uh, like like you had described before this was a car that had been through a fire.

01:11:23.650 --> 01:11:25.131
[SPEAKER_00]: It was completely rebuilt.

01:11:25.731 --> 01:11:26.351
[SPEAKER_00]: It was sweet.

01:11:26.551 --> 01:11:27.672
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a really nice car.

01:11:28.592 --> 01:11:29.573
[SPEAKER_00]: I really liked it a lot.

01:11:30.153 --> 01:11:34.455
[SPEAKER_00]: And in the height of COVID, I couldn't believe how much money it was worth.

01:11:35.527 --> 01:11:35.827
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:11:36.248 --> 01:11:36.688
[SPEAKER_00]: So I sold.

01:11:36.708 --> 01:11:37.709
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:11:37.810 --> 01:11:38.190
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

01:11:38.370 --> 01:11:39.652
[SPEAKER_00]: I literally, I couldn't believe it.

01:11:40.392 --> 01:11:52.665
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then, you know, with with the money I end up with a bunch of other projects and, you know, and then I chased that one and looked for it and really tried, you know, I wanted to buy it back and, you know, to me it was one of the ones that got away.

01:11:52.705 --> 01:11:57.250
[SPEAKER_00]: But I had a 58 loved it, loved every every every aspect of a great car.

01:11:58.011 --> 01:11:59.793
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you get a little bit of throwback with the 58.

01:11:59.853 --> 01:12:03.896
[SPEAKER_01]: It reminds you of earlier, but it's starting to move towards modern.

01:12:03.956 --> 01:12:07.559
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it has a good mix of both.

01:12:08.100 --> 01:12:08.941
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I loved it.

01:12:09.101 --> 01:12:09.841
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a great car.

01:12:10.002 --> 01:12:11.203
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, back to you, back to you.

01:12:12.564 --> 01:12:16.507
[SPEAKER_00]: Favorite road trip you've ever taken in of Volkswagen in of Volkswagen?

01:12:18.349 --> 01:12:24.914
[SPEAKER_01]: When I was in that 69 bug, my girlfriend moved away to Yuma and I lived in Costa Grande, which was

01:12:26.035 --> 01:12:31.019
[SPEAKER_01]: a couple hours, I don't have a couple hours from there, and I would go see her.

01:12:31.539 --> 01:12:43.248
[SPEAKER_01]: And man, I would peg that little 60, and I've gotten home, and actually after coming home, I mean, I used to stick my toe underneath the roller pedal, like a cruise control, and just peg that thing.

01:12:44.089 --> 01:12:51.494
[SPEAKER_01]: And I got within a half a mile of my house at a stop sign, and both the valve covers fell off the thing, it was so hot.

01:12:52.255 --> 01:12:53.396
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God, bro.

01:12:56.026 --> 01:12:57.506
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'm 16, 17 years old.

01:12:57.566 --> 01:13:04.691
[SPEAKER_01]: I just pushed that little thing, but that's probably the most fun and memorable just shooting down that just I'm going to seem a girlfriend just often running.

01:13:05.051 --> 01:13:05.891
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, love it.

01:13:06.412 --> 01:13:07.892
[SPEAKER_00]: One Volkswagen you'll never sell.

01:13:08.553 --> 01:13:09.493
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd have to get it first.

01:13:10.134 --> 01:13:10.934
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:13:10.994 --> 01:13:12.415
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:13:12.755 --> 01:13:13.396
[SPEAKER_01]: I was in that.

01:13:14.269 --> 01:13:15.749
[SPEAKER_01]: I have one you regret then.

01:13:15.949 --> 01:13:17.070
[SPEAKER_00]: Have one you regret selling?

01:13:17.450 --> 01:13:27.493
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but I really regret digging into that black fritier that that car that car had so many lives that car it's going to go off on a little bit of that car was bought by a service member when it came back in the 60s.

01:13:27.773 --> 01:13:31.414
[SPEAKER_01]: I had pictures of his daughter in front of who's in her 60s and in her 60s now.

01:13:32.274 --> 01:13:36.315
[SPEAKER_01]: He bought it when it came back from the service he sold it kept his eye on it.

01:13:37.175 --> 01:13:40.937
[SPEAKER_01]: and bought it back in his 70s and I bought it back from him when he's in his 80s.

01:13:41.337 --> 01:13:45.079
[SPEAKER_01]: That car did not deserve the end of its life, which it's gone.

01:13:45.219 --> 01:13:45.879
[SPEAKER_01]: It's parts.

01:13:45.939 --> 01:13:50.101
[SPEAKER_01]: I have parts here and parts there and the body went down the road as a shell.

01:13:50.361 --> 01:13:52.702
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the car that is a shame.

01:13:52.942 --> 01:13:54.583
[SPEAKER_01]: That it really, it hurt that one hurts.

01:13:55.003 --> 01:13:56.384
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was a good looking car.

01:13:56.684 --> 01:13:57.705
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, it was lipstick.

01:13:58.610 --> 01:14:05.700
[SPEAKER_01]: It would have ran another 30 years like I told you, but when they dug into it, yes, it was very bad, but I let somebody dig into it and then it now it's gone.

01:14:06.421 --> 01:14:07.282
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the one I regret.

01:14:08.540 --> 01:14:14.464
[SPEAKER_00]: you made a point a little while ago, you said when you take them apart, that's that's that's doomsday.

01:14:15.005 --> 01:14:17.887
[SPEAKER_00]: And I man, that hit that hit deep.

01:14:18.247 --> 01:14:30.135
[SPEAKER_00]: Because a lot of us, I say us, I mean the Volkswagen community, but sometimes we start these projects and we take them apart with the best intentions, but they don't go back together, you know?

01:14:30.195 --> 01:14:34.598
[SPEAKER_00]: So you know, it's got dark that hit deep when you said that earlier.

01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:36.540
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, how about this one?

01:14:37.915 --> 01:14:41.536
[SPEAKER_00]: most overrated VW trend that's current right now.

01:14:42.596 --> 01:14:48.177
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know when right now actually, I don't have any trends that I've been through all of them, but I don't know, you know what I mean?

01:14:48.957 --> 01:14:50.197
[SPEAKER_01]: I've had a single wheel trailer.

01:14:50.357 --> 01:14:51.937
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a swamp cooler.

01:14:52.037 --> 01:14:58.779
[SPEAKER_01]: I have, you know, I've been through all the little widgets and gadgets that come through, but right now I haven't, I don't know what's going on really right now.

01:14:59.399 --> 01:14:59.819
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:14:59.839 --> 01:15:00.819
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:15:01.439 --> 01:15:02.699
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't been to a show in a few years.

01:15:07.460 --> 01:15:08.880
[SPEAKER_00]: underrated, underrated.

01:15:09.300 --> 01:15:13.261
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, type three's underrated, all the type three's.

01:15:13.921 --> 01:15:15.461
[SPEAKER_01]: I think people really love them.

01:15:15.601 --> 01:15:18.582
[SPEAKER_01]: I people connect to them, the station wagon.

01:15:19.042 --> 01:15:21.622
[SPEAKER_01]: When they come up, the station wagon, the square batch.

01:15:21.642 --> 01:15:25.243
[SPEAKER_01]: They just think that's the greatest thing in the world, but they just don't bring money.

01:15:25.403 --> 01:15:27.944
[SPEAKER_01]: On the money side, I don't think type three's bring the money.

01:15:28.144 --> 01:15:33.564
[SPEAKER_01]: This bug behind me, the same year, this and would compete with a square back.

01:15:33.604 --> 01:15:35.505
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they should be valued more.

01:15:35.805 --> 01:15:36.445
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're cooler.

01:15:37.309 --> 01:15:43.514
[SPEAKER_01]: bugs are cool, but I think a different type of old swagon is, I think type trees that they're, they're, they're, they're, I think they're underrated.

01:15:43.834 --> 01:15:45.816
[SPEAKER_01]: They're loved, but they don't bring the cash.

01:15:46.116 --> 01:15:46.857
[SPEAKER_01]: So take it.

01:15:46.877 --> 01:15:47.778
[SPEAKER_01]: That answers that question.

01:15:48.098 --> 01:15:48.478
[SPEAKER_00]: It does.

01:15:49.399 --> 01:15:49.639
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:15:49.659 --> 01:15:50.320
[SPEAKER_00]: How about this one?

01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:52.701
[SPEAKER_00]: One tool that you can't live without.

01:15:53.202 --> 01:15:55.824
[SPEAKER_01]: I like my, uh, my has it a system.

01:15:56.845 --> 01:15:58.106
[SPEAKER_01]: I drag that thing around the shop.

01:15:59.447 --> 01:15:59.987
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a tool.

01:16:01.188 --> 01:16:01.689
[SPEAKER_01]: The cart.

01:16:02.269 --> 01:16:02.529
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:16:02.609 --> 01:16:04.351
[SPEAKER_00]: This is, this is your, your show.

01:16:04.871 --> 01:16:05.051
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:16:05.091 --> 01:16:05.932
[SPEAKER_01]: I really like that thing.

01:16:06.072 --> 01:16:06.773
[SPEAKER_01]: It really,

01:16:07.515 --> 01:16:09.516
[SPEAKER_01]: to drag that thing over where I need you to not around the lift.

01:16:09.856 --> 01:16:11.337
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's that's the tool I really like.

01:16:11.978 --> 01:16:12.218
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:16:12.538 --> 01:16:22.023
[SPEAKER_00]: One piece of advice doesn't have to be long and drawn out, but one piece of advice that you would give somebody who was starting their very first restoration.

01:16:23.084 --> 01:16:24.965
[SPEAKER_01]: If not, don't do it, patience.

01:16:27.236 --> 01:16:29.337
[SPEAKER_00]: So consistent with what you said earlier.

01:16:29.557 --> 01:16:33.178
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, patients, patients is the hardest thing.

01:16:33.518 --> 01:16:35.018
[SPEAKER_01]: There's so many other aspects.

01:16:35.058 --> 01:16:38.519
[SPEAKER_01]: There's so many other things you have to check before you go down that road.

01:16:39.079 --> 01:16:43.741
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're new, you're not gonna know it until it's, you know, behind you.

01:16:43.761 --> 01:16:46.461
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's, there's just so much to it.

01:16:46.901 --> 01:16:49.982
[SPEAKER_01]: So incredible, patients would be the biggest one.

01:16:50.742 --> 01:16:55.844
[SPEAKER_00]: If money were no object for you, not saying that it is, but just play along with me.

01:16:56.993 --> 01:16:59.795
[SPEAKER_00]: What would be your ultimate dream build?

01:17:00.296 --> 01:17:01.477
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd probably get a double cab.

01:17:01.877 --> 01:17:03.098
[SPEAKER_00]: I think a double cab would be cool.

01:17:03.358 --> 01:17:04.880
[SPEAKER_00]: Sick, I love double cabs.

01:17:05.660 --> 01:17:07.642
[SPEAKER_00]: You mean, and I split window, too.

01:17:07.722 --> 01:17:09.724
[SPEAKER_01]: Split window, double cab, yeah.

01:17:09.744 --> 01:17:10.764
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that would be cool.

01:17:10.985 --> 01:17:11.465
[SPEAKER_00]: What a sex.

01:17:11.505 --> 01:17:13.627
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I don't need it to be all done.

01:17:13.687 --> 01:17:15.408
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need it to be a new restaurant.

01:17:15.428 --> 01:17:20.332
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it, you know, it to be able to team it out one to have that right-looking stance and go down the road.

01:17:21.733 --> 01:17:22.594
[SPEAKER_01]: And take people with you.

01:17:22.694 --> 01:17:23.335
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what matters.

01:17:24.797 --> 01:17:30.247
[SPEAKER_00]: This story wasn't just a story about a 1958 beetle, right?

01:17:30.267 --> 01:17:32.251
[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about patients, persistence.

01:17:33.406 --> 01:17:48.935
[SPEAKER_00]: Trust in strangers, sometimes not trust in strangers, surviving bad deals, chasing dreams, discovering that sometimes the journey of a new car becomes far more valuable than the finished product in itself, because it's that journey, right?

01:17:49.476 --> 01:17:58.421
[SPEAKER_00]: Every Volkswagen has a story, but very few of these stories actually start as parts in a buffalo drive.

01:18:01.903 --> 01:18:12.065
[SPEAKER_00]: persistence and detective work and heartbreak and redemption and loss of money and holy shit man, you bent through it all, but it all started with this one behind me.

01:18:12.405 --> 01:18:15.525
[SPEAKER_00]: One unforgettable glacier, blue bug.

01:18:15.705 --> 01:18:18.726
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a wrap for this episode of Dub Life Diaries.

01:18:19.346 --> 01:18:24.867
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01:18:25.467 --> 01:18:29.008
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01:18:46.462 --> 01:18:52.207
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01:18:52.588 --> 01:18:53.669
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01:18:54.910 --> 01:18:56.732
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