Shawn Stapp 34 Years of VWs, Generosity & Keeping the Community Alive Ep82

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Dub Life Diaries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, what if the guy with eight Volkswagen's wasn't actually obsessed with Volkswagen's?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What if the cars were never really even the point?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Today's guest has three buses, four bugs, a notch back, a 23 window bus that he's currently working on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been in the VW world for 34 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's built some pretty incredible things in the community to include 303 dubs who he's obviously a part of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's helped create a whole new energy around the scene.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But here's the part that actually got me when I first started talking to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: just recently he just gave two Volkswagen bugs away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not sold them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He gave away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to let him talk about that and what what it took to do that to two teenage boys who are now officially a part of the VW family because of his generosity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The cars aren't even completely road worthy yet, but that's exactly the point, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because for Sean, keeping the VW lifestyle alive isn't about having the biggest collection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: or building the most expensive car or even getting the recognition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For him, it's about the people, which is exactly why I do this podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about kindness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about showing up for somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about making sure that 20 years from now that these kids are still going to get that same feeling that we got when we first fell in love with Volkswagen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a husband of 32 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a father.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a grandfather.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a plumber, he's a rancher, he's a car guy, and by his own mission, he's just a guy who wants to be good to people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And apparently, that's both his greatest strength and his greatest weakness, which in my first question, Bill Tinn, we're gonna talk about that, all right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Today, we're gonna talk about Volkswagen's, we're gonna talk about the people behind him, we're gonna talk about 303 doves, probably gonna spend some time talking about this 23 window.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to share some stories about 34 years in the hobby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what it really means to keep this lifestyle alive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the story of Sean Stapp.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is Dub Life Diaries, and Sean, welcome to the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: look forward to sharing stories with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for your time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do appreciate it before we dive into some awesome questions and an awesome interview.

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[SPEAKER_00]: let's get into Volkswagen's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But before we do, I actually want to start with something that you said that stuck out to me, which I just mentioned in your intro, you said that your biggest passion is being good to all people, and that's also your biggest weakness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell me what the exactly what does that mean, elaborate for me just a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's a scenario where you sometimes give.

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[SPEAKER_01]: more than it's kind of hard to explain you know I really want to be just a kind of person that everyone should be genuine honest truthful what the world lacks in my opinion something I have to point out for the listeners is that you're doing this podcast interview and you're sitting

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[SPEAKER_01]: As far as the bus, you know, our reception out where we live is, is body out best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I figured it would, you know, my best reception typically is out on our front porch and rather than just sit in the sun and deal with this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you know what, I'm just going to pull it bus over here and set up shop and sit in the shade and get a little wind and and let her ride.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what year is that bus this one is a 63 no man beautiful 63.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's that's so awesome So kind of getting back to what you were saying a second ago about you know So expect from people have you always been that way or did life kind of teach you to be this person life Definitely taught me that be this way You know we out a lot of help when we were young my wife and I got together at a very early age

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[SPEAKER_01]: If it wasn't for her parents and others, that helped us maintain and we're there when we didn't have anybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The things that I'm going to say, I had a troubled childhood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I was kicked out at about the age of 15.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I had to learn to grow up quick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if it wasn't for good people, who knows where I'd be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I returned the favors, you know, at this point in my life I've been blessed with mine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: coming through and the only way that I know how to give back is to generosity the same way I was given when I was young the weakness side of it is the you know certain on appreciation I suppose being too willing to help others you know I tell myself I have three full time jobs aside from just being in family now

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I went to plumbing company, I do all the ranch on a daily basis, and I try to maintain eight to nine walks while I can run all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So from start-up to sundown, you know, it's pretty much on the go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like to film my days, I like to always stay in motion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like to always try to figure out how I can help others.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm always willing to donate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My time to help another guy keep his car running, go pick him up if they broke down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've donated motors to a couple of buddies, you know, in order to get their rides back up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, my giving is probably a little aggressive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people's dies to the point where they think all this dude just roll on with cash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not the case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've lived broke my whole life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the things that I can't afford at this point in my life, I still live to a certain extent of brokenness, you know what I mean, I'm not struggling obviously, you know, life has gotten easier for us, but we don't live in that regard, we live the same way we've lived our whole lives and we give back the same way that people did to us as we were coming up, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not the response to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's perfect because what I detect even from your backstory is you're just not the type of guy that really even looks for any type of recognition or even the spotlight by any stretch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean even when we start talking about 303.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you were like, hey, man, that's, you know, I didn't start that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, but, but you actually do a lot, you know, you know, Josh even talked a lot about you and, and a lot about, you know, what you, you know, what you do and what you give and I think you might maybe downplay yourself a little bit and that's okay because you're just a humble guy and that's,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really awesome, you know, to hear, you know, that somebody has that big of a heart, I guess, you know, because that's again, man, that's, that's what I'd want to friend, that's what I'd want in a, in a partner, that's what I'd want in somebody that's helping me create these events and stuff as well, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have that in my buddy Allen, another awesome guy, big heart, you know, gives a lot and, you know, it's probably why we, we connect so well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, man, right, great to hear that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, again, it's

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know I'm a firm believer in going all of that if you're going to do something go for it do it all you know go all the way why you know why put a minimal effort into something you know and I mean it's you know I'm a city boy my whole life on my life and I moved out to a ranch just eight years ago I knew nothing you know but I've taught myself how to raise cattle I've taught myself how to raise pigs you know and it's been a process but you know it it's a fun process

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, if I put my name on something, I want, and I have the opportunity to put more involvement in it than just sponsoring a trophy out of an event or something that I'm going to give it my all absolutely, I'm going to use every bit of my power to make sure that whatever we do as a group is as successful as possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's go back 34 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go back to where this all started for you when you got your first Volkswagen, wherever you at in your life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was kicked out at an early age and I convinced my parents to bring me back to Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'd moved to Houston for a couple of years and unfortunately, I met the wrong crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and you know, life started taking a turn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Houston, man, you know, uh, I've heard a lot, you know, growing up, even.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Houston's full of some hard knocks, dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So long story short, I mean, I got in touch with them just as they were moving back to Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hadn't talked to my parents and, you know, a year and a half, I sent my parents.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's my mom and my stepdad, my real father passed away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, in 99.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, it's still my parents.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were in a process of coming back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had just, you know, back then there was no cell phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was nothing, you know, pages.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had pages, but I was going to call 911 911.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just happened to call it the right time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, we're moving back to Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, well, can I catch a ride?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is where I grew up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she said, you know, my mom said, we'll give you a ride, but you can't live with us, which I agreed to, they brought me back up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I think they obviously cared for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're my parents.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they didn't want to just leave me behind dry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my mom was like, you know, we're willing to buy you a car so you can get a job again, you're not staying with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, this will hopefully get the ball rolling for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which I, you know, I obviously was stoked for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she said, well, what do you want to go looking for?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I said, I want to walk by the bug.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she, you know, did the double take?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at me like, what'd she say?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, yeah, I want to walk by the bug.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we went through a small little dealership and there were two of them looking back and not knowing what I know now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, there was a 67-vert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was beautiful car, beautiful car, and a 71 non-super with a pretty cool paint job, maroon, and such and, you know, in my opinion, I was after that cow look, and I figured I could

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[SPEAKER_01]: create that in the more of my vision and the vert did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a true fan of, I mean, all the vert's don't give you wrong, but I, you know, it's just not one of my four days I suppose in the Volkswagen collection.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it started off as a 71 vert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got it basically what I was about 16 and a half years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then about a month after that, my parents drove me down there, Arizona and that's where I got my first plumbing job, basically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so so from the beginning you got a bug was there an attraction toward you know Volkswagen's like why Volkswagen anyway like what what wasn't about it with you know, did you have this attraction to them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you have a history with them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did they did your family own them like what was why why Volkswagen bug at 16?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know I don't know um just

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[SPEAKER_01]: love the looks of those cars and those as young as I can remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The whole slug bud, you know, I mean, that was a huge thing when we're, you know, blown up, you know, the bus, especially, I mean, it's just so iconic, you know, but obviously, even back then, you know, a bus was out of my realm, you know, so the next best thing that I knew I could potentially afford would be a

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I knew that the next greatest thing was going to potentially be the bug, so no, I don't know what initially attracted me to them aside from just there's so unique and so iconic that it doesn't matter how young or old you are, everybody can identify it, you know what I mean.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't tell you in a difference between a 71 charter and a 71 kuda, you know, I'm just not that much or, you know, even a 69 and a 71, you know, there's so much variables and little things, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to know all the different makes and models, but everybody knows of walks wagging about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody knows of walks wagging about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, regardless of who your car or not, you know, it's just one of those such stuck in everybody's head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now you met your wife when you had just gotten your first bug right now, married what 32, 32 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, sir, did she know back then what she was getting

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think either one of us, I guess, knew what was going to take, you know, transpire from it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like I said, we've moved down there and my older brothers, best friend of Greg Galdoanie, was a Volkswagen guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when I first moved down there, I didn't really know anybody other than Greg, we'd

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I started hanging out with him and, you know, he's really worth what really fired up the fire and me for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So at what point then did one Volkswagen become two and then three and then just you're now we're at eight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think you get the second one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I had that one and then, um, I actually bought my second one from my wife, stepped out, Greg Aldoni was a 63 rag top, um, and, uh, prior to me moving back here to call Rato or with my family, um, you know, a few years of transpired, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, after I met my wife and such before we had moved back here, but I stole those bugs basically in order to have the money to get back up here to start, you know, getting going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there were the point where I was bugless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And not only survived for about seven months before I came across the one I currently have now, this 63 rag top, that just went through the full restoration and just over a year ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, it was completed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sick, dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about your cars for just a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you've currently got three buses, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Four beetles, you've got a notch back, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: 53, 59, some of four bus, 11 window, 63, 15 window, and then the 63, 23, damn, and then four beetles give me those years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we've got my 63 rad, my wife's 67 of four rad, the 57

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[SPEAKER_01]: What am I missing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and Dudley, which is a 63, just a patina car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause the stock rusty patina car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you got a notch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the notch back is a 64.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, great year, great year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually do have one more bus right now that I just acquired about a week and a half ago, and a 11 window walkthrough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's also here as of right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that one's been rust removed and it's ready for new panels.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice, ready to be put back together and such like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You said it's an 11 window.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What year is that one?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That one is a 61.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're you're you're a split guy here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: no big window of no, I mean, I like the big windows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I just still trying to fulfill that child who dream of having the iconic buses and bugs that I've always invaded into my head, you know, they do more power to it for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't want to get off subject, but you know, I feel like right now I've been a caretaker for a lot of these things, you know, it just gets them back in motion for people, um, some of them are, you know, not in my, you know, they're going to not stay with me forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was more of a fulfillment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: scenario.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if the right people come along, I'm fully willing to, you know, unload a couple that, you know, we'll go off to good homes, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the, the interesting that you talk about the people, you know, you've obviously got a pretty serious collection at this point in your life, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when we talk, we sit here, we talk about,

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[SPEAKER_00]: your car as we talk about Volkswagen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't really seem like the obsessions, the cars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like the obsessions, the people, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, that's why you're, that's why we're here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why you're on the show that that's why we wanted to chat with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But tell me why, you know, I think it's just the way that the interaction at shows the the generosity of people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've, we've, I've

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, I've been around all kinds of people and, and I'm not saying that there's any one thing better than another, but it seems like the community and the Volkswagen just knows how to come together as a whole and it really matters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: whether it's a toy driver or a supporter or another clubs show or you know there's anything on the sort you know we're uh there's so many clubs it's hard to you know there's so many good people throughout all these clubs that it it's just hard to not want to accept everybody you know in my opinion and for the most part the way I've been treated it is exactly that

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[SPEAKER_01]: why not give it right back, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do you think that I guess the air cooled Volkswagen people?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do you think they tend to form such strong communities?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're just talking about it how, you know, it's like no other community out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Give me your take on why.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do you think Volkswagen people are so strong?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe because they're not afraid to showcase their individuality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, a bit perspective to drive a Volkswagen if it doesn't put a smile on your face, you're not going to own it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it'll just be another car that comes and goes through all your life, but the people that actually get them and realize what it does to your being or you know, your yourself, it's, you know, I think that just transpires throughout their lifestyle and and through the gathering is that we have at these shows and and, you know, get together's, you know, it's, it's just a whole combination between the individuality and the, the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: personality of all of them and the bubblyness of just being in a Volkswagen and not just lift your spirits and I think creates that bond, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well said, and you know, you hear about this all the time too, and I'm sure I'll probably even ask you if you ever experience this, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's something different about breaking down on the side of the road and having, you know, five people stop to help you that you've never met.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it feels like there's these stories all the time with these cars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, shit, I was only broken down five minutes before there was some guy on an F-150 that pulled up and said, hey,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're Joe or, or hey, you're sure I've seen you before at the shows, you know, I got a, I got a toe bar right here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's, let's, let's get you home or, or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a tool bag or like whatever, like have you ever experienced that personally broken down and had people that you don't know stop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely, you know, to be honest out here in the country where I'm at, believe it or not, four out of five people will do it every single time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it, you know, and not, but it also applies and, you know, in town, obviously, but, you know, there's good people out there, man, and, and I think, again, there's, you go to these shows and just to hear the.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People that walk by like, oh, remember mom and dad had a bus like this or a bug like that or you know, remember driving in the backseat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's everybody's got a story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So regardless of what they're driving on the road, when they see a car like a bug that they have a story potentially related to or a memory associated to it, they're probably more likely to stop and help, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, you know, that maybe because of the affordability, I went back in the day that so many people got to experience it, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, again, for 69 commercials on the side of the road is the same amount of people going to stop probably not, you know, because people have ever had a 69 commercial in their life, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's kind of how I attribute that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It really is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I know it's a be true as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've had people stop and help me as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you're passionate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You say that you're, you know, you're passionate about being good to people, being good to everybody has notably has that been ever been taken advantage of in your life that that that you can recognize.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, always looking back, you always feel like you got, you know, there's potential deals that you did yourself dirty on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, whether it be a selling a car or, you know, whatever the case, you know, yeah, I would say there's, you know, there's definitely some people that try to take advantage of the generosity in the aspect that was not, you know, again, I'm not trying to do it for recognition, you know, these a lot of times the different shows that I've,

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[SPEAKER_01]: sponsored a couple hundred dollar trophies or something, you know, to that effect, you know, again, I just want to contribute to the clubs or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of times, you know, anything that I do wrong is done by myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's only one thing in life that I can control, and that's myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, if I make a bad deal or I allow somebody to

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if there's somebody, if I felt like somebody took advantage of me after the fact I probably had that same feeling when I was doing the act.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, good point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My feelings over what overlap that because in regardless of how somebody may reciprocate, I still want to help, you know, I'm not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if I did something for one particular person or whatever, and he never came back and helped me turn a wrench on his car, so be it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've volunteered to help, so I can't be mad if I don't get anything in return.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, you're just a salesman, and you say, hey, you want me to do this, it's going to cost you XML.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean or or something to that effect, and I'm definitely not that person definitely not that person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So So I'll take my burnings when I deserve room

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about who you are then because what you did here recently and given away these two these two bugs I think is probably the most Sean step thing that you can possibly do but let's talk about these you didn't sell them you gave them away how did this come up like what did how did how did these boys these two teenage kids you know give me the background give me the story of how this came to you know the

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[SPEAKER_01]: are one of the guy at the club members sons, the hymns ever since we've kind of started the club, I guess, or you know, I wouldn't say started because I was brought into the club after it was affiliated, but close to the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've always been there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, whatever we're doing, those boys are there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, one of them is 14, one of them is 16.

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[SPEAKER_01]: one just got his license and so you know it was just one of those things where I saw a couple of opportunities on some cheaper cars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of them actually, you know, has been pounding, not pounding me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I shouldn't say that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, my 63th of Tina Carrer, I call her name is Bugley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's kind of always hinted that she wanted to buy Bugley because Bugley is kind of just a symbol right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that I faced was that I didn't want to give a car that I onto one of these boys and have everybody associated with myself or what I can see in that nose of this car to be like, oh, that's Sean's old car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the last thing I wanted for these, you know, for them to experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted them to have a car that nobody seen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that can be theirs and they can make it their own and don't have to try to justify well I did this even though it was shown the body, you know, again, it's just one of those things where, you know, now they have something that is all theirs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody can claim that they did this or that to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So as far as acquiring them, again, I did some bartering, I know a lot of people right now, you know, it wasn't an exceeding them

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[SPEAKER_01]: not to jump ahead like you know um but I did reach out to their father and make sure like hey I've been thinking about this obviously don't want to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He knew what's going on you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah yeah yeah you know because if he were to said no if you don't know what you give my kids cars like I was expecting that you know I mean um but I kind of gave him the game plan and you know and I'm here to help these guys you know I want to

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to make it happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to help them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to keep them jazzed and energized and in such so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's fast forward a bit then to when these boys find out that they're getting a couple cars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... what was the reaction tell me walk me through kind of what what happened when they realized they were getting them i honestly couldn't tell you because i was pretty tore up emotionally i mean excited you know the thing was that i had them out here when i did my annual pig roast and uh... you know he came up to me right away and was like

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to sell that red bug, I don't know, man, you know, I'm like, I still haven't decided what I'm going to do with it, you know, but in my mind, I already knew what I was doing with it, you know, but I couldn't say just give me two hours, but, you know, so I think they,

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[SPEAKER_01]: weren't expecting it in a honesty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I think they're extremely grateful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't, you know, absolutely, but it hit me pretty hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How cool that, you know, that it, it gave you, you know, the emotions to do that for somebody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, it's that part, it's that giving part of your soul.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what were these, what was the condition of these cars?

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[SPEAKER_01]: 66 is actually a running driving car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It needs some brakes, it needs an exhaust needs a little tune up, but it's there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's got some obvious rust, but not anything that I'm concerned for their safety or, you know, they may not have the greatest heat if, but you know, they're probably not going to have heat anyways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So since then, I've had the the other one was a 65 and you know, I drove a couple of hours to go get it kind of gave the guy that I was getting it from the low down on what I was planning on doing with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we, you know, he helped, you know, in the cause I suppose, but when I got there, it was a little more far gone on than what.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted it to be for them to maintain interest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to go that far backwards before we could get moving forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We did have a good pan and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It came with replacement pan and such.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we went ahead and stripped that one down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I came across another 61 solid body, Petina Carr.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I went ahead and got that one now as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this weekend actually we're going to, I'm going to get going on the pan and get the, get the new pan and stalled on it so we can, you know, hopefully get that dealt with paint wise and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then put on the 61 body that is freshly acquired.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've really gotten three cars to hopefully we can make two cars, you know, a nice good cars, you know, that these guys can enjoy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to, are these boys a part of refinishing these cars or the, or the, or the absolute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's why I'm saying, you know, I'm not really going to progress without them necessarily, you know, that was a certain amount that, but no, this is definitely, you know, there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: already been buying parts or are you saying his money, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So does that go back to your own childhood, you know, of maybe, you know, having these cars back then, parts were probably a lot cheaper, a lot more easy to come by, et cetera.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But do you think that there's something valuable about letting a young person experience the process of bringing an old car back to life?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think that's what, you know, right off the bat when I got mine, like said meeting my wife's father.

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[SPEAKER_01]: prior to obviously to my wife and I even being together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was always out there willing to help me work on my car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted to make my car so much cooler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, at the time he had lost his driver's license.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he had that 63 rag top.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, we took the center lined off with it and put it on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we took the lowered from being off with it and put it on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, there was just many nights and weekends that we were out there trying to make my car cooler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, all the way to the point where we ended up pulling his 2276 out of his Iraq top and putting it in my car just so we could Cruise around Phoenix and enjoy life Um, so you know, and not probably brought the passion maybe to want to, you know, be more involved in my car and And, uh, real life, I'll, I'll, I'll simple day, I'll actually, to, to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I'm hoping these, these guys all

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, also, you know, enjoy that, you know, and it's kind of like, you know, you don't want to push them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to do it out their pace.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, but at the same time, I want to make sure that they, you know, are enjoying it as we're doing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be that's going to be key.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what's what's what's what's kind of the takeaway here like what do you hope that these boys learn from this experience what like Volkswagen people do for others You know that there's still people like myself like us out in the world

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, do you remember being that age having something that you were, you know, completely passionate about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You never know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly don't just, and I think that's why I want to help others be able to pursue their passions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe more so because that was something that I wasn't really able to do tell later on in life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, being married so young and having four kids, you know, it, you know, from, and we were young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're still teenagers, you know, and, you know, not by the time we had a fourth kid, but, you know, we're teenagers, you know, and originally, and so we gave up our childhood to, you know, we didn't, we didn't get the pursuers, and we, we pursued what we had to do in order

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man, that's impactful, you know, and then it's just it shows, you know, because now you have these opportunities to make sure that other people, even at a young age can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, I guess get this entry point, you know, to not just not just be a part of, you know, having a car, having a classic car of Volkswagen nonetheless, but also now to to catch an entry point into this community, which you've been a part of for for for so long, you know, do you think that we lose something when now the younger generations don't have the

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[SPEAKER_00]: have opportunities like this, maybe even work with their hands, you know, because let's be honest, man, these kids that are now for these 15, 16 year old kids that are a coming of age to start driving.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Most of them are not knocking the door down to get a 1965 beetle, you know, and want to drive that thing everywhere and have it be their daily, you know, they're just not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, back to the question,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that as a community as a Volkswagen community that we lose something when the younger generations don't have those opportunities to work with their hands?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the lack 25 years ago, 30 years ago, they were,

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[SPEAKER_01]: some, you know, there are a lot of shops around now, you know, when it comes to the Volkswagen community, you know, here locally, I mean, there's still a handful of shops, don't give you wrong, they've been around for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I think that the price point and things of that sort of scared off some of the newbies, but getting people, the opportunity to open up shops or give them a place to come and experience and work on things,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, is there's a lack of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I think that's why these, you know, like a three or three doves and Eastern Plains.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Club and being in crackers crew, you know, those guys, you know, that I think that's why there's a good thing about clubs is when you do have a group of guys that you can rely on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that when your car does break down and you need, you do need a hand, you've got one of your buddies that you can 9% of the time rely on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we need to make sure that we involve the younger generation into that aspect of it as well, you know, and it's hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, these kids want faster cars and, you know, more exotic or whatever they have higher ambitions, but there's

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[SPEAKER_01]: live it the way it isn't and uh... you know like these like now it's morally and and and they're they're all part of the walks wagon life and and now they're you know now they only want to uh... some people just enjoy even more so hopefully there's a lot more kids out there that can get opened up to it you know next time you're out show a kid sitting in car man you know bring out some memories let's let you know

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I have a nice car, you know, people are like, oh, I don't want to touch it back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it is what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, yeah, it's a nice car, but you still got to utilize it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to drive it down my five miles of dirt road before I get to ask.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, I'm going to call me a trailer queen all you want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, you put the money into that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to drive it down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My dirt road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I promise you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You touched on some of the clubs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about 303 doves for just a couple minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because the whole thing, even when I had talked to Josh from the beginning, you guys both even had this feeling of like this whole buzz has kind of taken you guys by surprise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's chat about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: did we have any idea for the record that this club was going to become what it is?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, from more point of view, no, absolutely not, you know, I mean, if Josh would have when he when he Josh hit me up and was like, you know, hey, bro, you know, are you in a club?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever considered one?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is that, you know, I would have never found them that in less than a year's time, you know, we

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[SPEAKER_01]: pulled together like the poker truths and the doubt fest was just mind-blowing and just the feedback from all, you know, not necessarily clubs or, you know, whatever, but just, you know, the feedback from online, the way that we're doing things, I mean, yeah, I, I would another, never,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I've been worried about right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What does 303 doves mean to you right now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Family for one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just a good bunch of people right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk about, let's talk about that because both you and Josh, you know, kind of mentioned this, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's this buzz in Colorado about 303 doves, obviously in in the Volkswagen scene.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're talking about the people now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So tell me, what, what does this look like from inside the club?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, it's kind of overwhelming to an extent, you know, it almost makes you want to put

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they just do the album, you know, they don't give me wrong, you know, I've been that all the shows here in Colorado for many years, whether I've had a walk back and were not, we've always been a participant or an attendee, we've always tried to support the community.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, whether I was there just to get ideas or just to say hi or whatever the case may be and you you've said that you guys are trying to set the bar for kind of how clubs operate, how they function, describe what that actually means.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if we're necessarily trying to set any bars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what we're just trying to do is promote good people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fun times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No drama, no drama like Joshua.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No drama, you know, just be in a wholesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me ask you this from the other side, then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think is maybe something that other clubs get wrong?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Either a little too much promotion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think some of the politics that are involved in the history of some of the clubs play a big factor in some of the events that get

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, brought up or whatever, obviously there's, you know, there's always been two or three big Volkswagen shows here in Colorado, um, we recently lost the the bugging at Banda Mayor a couple of years ago, um, and so I think the depth that's kind of filled that void because,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, these other shows have been going for years and years and years, but do you know the Aslan brothers grant?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, sir.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I know, grant and read great people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, he's a super energetic super outgoing super great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you know, that guy's got a passion that, you know, is contagious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just grant granted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Granted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Granted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, some granted is a cool guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've had great, I've had Grant on in the past and, you know, back then I committed to trying to get out there to that Volkswagen is on the green event because just what a spectacular event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My dream was always to have my podcast tent set up there and, you know, just hang out with all you guys out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then I ended up meeting Josh and finding out about 303 and, you know, I just, I kind of, one thing I haven't, I may have shared with you in the past when we talked,

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[SPEAKER_00]: My mom lives in Cayenne City, my sister is just west of Denver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's in love with her right now or close somewhere right around there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But my point was, two of my kids, two of my five were born in Colorado Springs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I've just got a huge section of my life, you know, out there, I learned how to drive a stick in Canyon City.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the first weekends, I learned how to drive a three-speed V8 Jeep a 79 CJ7.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My mom took me up skyline drive and made me drive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like what I just learned to clutch and we got no guard rails, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have just these crazy vivid memories of, you know, being a kid and kind of growing up in the mountains out there, you know, born and raised here in St. Petersburg, Florida.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't want to get too far off topic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My point was, I love the West.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was asking you if you know those those Aslan brothers because we were talking about other events and I just wanted to touch on, you know, the Volkswagen's on the green.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're back to the question, though, about what other clubs get wrong, something that's come up when I've asked other people this question before is some of the clickish nature.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does that make any sense when I say that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I think that's part of the, you know, I might say political side of it, but I think because I think you touched on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's a lot of people that have been in this scene out here for so many years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, what once was maybe a, you know, one particular club is now split into three or something of that effect because of whether there was bad blood in there or what, you know, I'm not, I'm not the one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm not claiming anything because I honestly don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I think that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing came back to the original question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The three or three, the way that it just popped off, the way that it came about, it hit it so hard that it just brought everybody's enthusiasm toward the spotlight, towards us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we didn't have that drama or that blood affiliated with us yet, and I think that thus far has really helped the progression of the club as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think Grant's pretty cool like that, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very open, super high enthusiasm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's welcome type feeling, you know, and I kind of get back from you guys, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I asked Josh this next, these next two questions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to make sure I definitely want to ask you these, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you personally deal with the different personalities of people?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we all know that, you know, there's all different walks of life, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: of a role and or a position, kind of a leadership role in your life, not just a business owner, but a lot of people look up to you, especially in the Volkswagen community, you've been a part of it for a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you deal with the different types of personalities, the different types of politics, the different types of, you know, in a sense bullshit that we have to see and put up with?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's a tough one, you know, I think, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, there's probably still a little bit like standoffishness to an extent, you know, not necessarily I'm not saying in our club, but you know, there's some club members that I honestly could tell you that I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, um, there are a couple of new guys that really, you know, haven't been on some of the gatherings or whatever the case, um, to, you know, meet up, but you know, we've met obviously at one point, but never had that time to hang out and actually know each other, um, to know what, you know, how each other interacts to know what you could potentially start talking smack with them and you know what level that you could take it to without.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, offending somebody and I think we're still in that learning life, you know, learning side of things right now, you know, on a steady.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, again, back to the original thing is there's only one thing in life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can control that's myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, sometimes I, I will get in the heat of the moment or, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: throw something on a text and literally the it's in and you're like you why why would you reply like that you know because how I grew up may not be how that guy grew up or help

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[SPEAKER_01]: they may interact at or how they may interpret this text, you know, and that's the other thing you know, is texting, that kind of stuff, you can read it in a couple of different ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You might take it offensive, you might take it funny, you know, and a problem, I think communication in a club is key, and it can't always be done via Facebook or text, it needs to be done verbally that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People can actually communicate and see and, you know, read off of each other's energy

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[SPEAKER_00]: So tell me this, what's the hardest part of building a club?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess finding people just as passionate as you are to want to progress it, you know, that want to be a part of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, want to contribute, you know, I guess just finding those like-minded individuals that see that potential or that, you know, I don't know that there's an end goal or a vision

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know I feel like it's transpired organically to this point and I think that's just the right move that I mean it just made it work so far so why really try to change anything up at this point I think we just kind of let it keep progressing organically and fit in where we think we can you know fill a void in the community or a show or I get together whatever the case so

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[SPEAKER_00]: So before we close up the small chapter about 303 Dubs, tell me something that you're super proud of in the club.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, you know, I think I'm going to defer to the dub fest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Putting together this dub fest was just an overwhelming experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for the listeners that don't know about Dubfest, describe what Dubfest is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, to be honest, we, in February of this year, a group of us from the club went down to the Desert Dubfest in Arizona.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I took a couple of cars down there and, uh, you know, we attended that show just to kind of, you know, I grew up in Phoenix and I gave us an opportunity to go down there and stay with some family and stuff, um, and Josh and a couple of the guys flew out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so how they ran their show and, and, uh, kind of took the visualization of that and like the show that we, you know, are used to hearing Colorado and kind of wanted to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: incorporate a little bit of of both, I guess, you know, just trying to bring a vision to a higher realm and I think that's what really inspired Josh and and stuff and I think that you know that's obviously why we coined the dub fest as well, the Denver dub fest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So where is Denver dub fest held for the listeners?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this year we had a empower field, which is AKA my high stadium.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, baby, Denver brought me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, one of the most iconic places in Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The co-fax bridge, which co-fax is a famous road here in Denver.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They bridge spans the majority of a couple of the parking lots, which creates shade for, you know, 95% of the day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: um and uh uh you know Josh and those guys had known about this place and then when they checked into it and realized that we could potentially rent these lots and throw a car show in the shade was kind of like wow like this could be what you know this could

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[SPEAKER_01]: huge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've never attended a car showing in shade where 90% of the cars were able to be shaded throughout the day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So pretty dope, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the picture is really the pictures were sick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I looked at, you know, I was falling along this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: as you guys were were, you know, going through it, I was, you know, apart all the marketing, looking at all your stuff and, you know, I was, I was really wishing I could be there to celebrate with you guys, but it looked like a bang-up time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, man, I could see that that is something that you should be proud of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it's all only going to get better from here, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We would have been happy if we had, you know, a hundred cars would have

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and then they know that thing of, you know, we had 180 something or 190 something pretty registered, just like what the heck, you know, and again, you know, we let that show almost grow organically, you know, to be honest, the morning of the show at 530 in the morning,

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[SPEAKER_01]: we changed up the way that we were going to park the cars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So all the way to the last minute, we were still kind of fine tuning how we wanted to present this and try to incorporate you know as many cars as we could and make sure that they got you know

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[SPEAKER_01]: normal car shows you parked into a parking space and people walk in front you see the front you don't see the whole car you know and and you know me as a car show contender I

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that parking spaces tend to potentially when or lose a show for you because of how you're displayed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he wanted to make sure that everybody kind of had a fair game and had a two-thirds of a visual shot of their car sideways versus, you know, put them at a diagonal versus just straight in or whatever or back to back, you know, think of that sort of allow people to intertwine through them and front of them behind them, think of that sort, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that was, you know, again, I was a last minute decision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it exceeded a lot of people's expectations when it came to photography and and things of that sort, you know, so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So cool, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's get away from cars for a minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll close that chapter on on 303 and and you know, the dub fest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to talk about your life, your personal life for a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've been married to Christina for 32 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess big picture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How is she supported this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll call it an obsession.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your your your VW obsession.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, neither one of us probably ever anticipated it would be at this point in our life and all honesty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, you know, my be a midlife crisis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, who knows why I'm doing well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, again, neither one of us did, you know, I owned, owned them throughout my life, but I never really got to enjoy them because again, we, we set aside our personal life to do what we could to make sure our family, you know, was taking care of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do, I resonate with that because, you know, I've heard you say it a couple times and this is not about me, you know, this podcast is about you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to support what you're saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I moved out when I was 17.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I bought my first beetle when I was 17.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I bought a 72 standard from the Tyrone Square Mall Park and lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I paid two grand for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had 75, 76,000 miles on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just a one-owner, a little lady.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a great car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not going to get, you know, two side track, but I had started having kids and I had

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[SPEAKER_00]: 15 years, 20 years away from the hobby where I didn't have one, either, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you say that dude, it like it resonates with me deeply because I remember having to explain to many people for a number of years in my life that, no, I don't have hobbies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My hobbies, my family, my hobbies raising my damn kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not I'm not a selfish person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not trying to make my life all about me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had that opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I already grew up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I already had a pretty crazy childhood to older brothers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were off the chain with, you know, we all ran the streets and gotten a shitload of trouble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's time for me to set myself and my own feelings aside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's time for me to instill the next generation, which is my kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I broke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't have a hobby for a long, long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've completely understand what you're saying there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But answer this question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How does Christina feel now when you bring another car home, another Volkswagen at that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been together for so many years that, you know, it's not that I get away with things, but you know, I am somewhat of a believer and it's easier to ask for forgiveness than some relationships sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, yeah, I do give her a, I do give her a head for the most part, you know, she was aware of what I was going to do for the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for Maddox and Marley with the two bugs, she was totally cool with that, you know, this 11-month-old walk through that I just picked up again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, came from a friend to mine, you know, that he was hurt for money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a good deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so again, I'm trying to help somebody, this will also get this bus back to motion for somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That else that might be able to transform it or do what they want with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, so she gets that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The cars that I've vested money in are almost like a safety net or, you know, almost its own bank, you know, for instance, what I have, what I have into this 15 window, I've been idiot if I lost my butt on it, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like to me, this is money in the bank.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, you know, I don't need to sell this, you know, yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So to me, and she sees that she knows that I'm not just wasting money this to waste money, but we broke our whole life so we might as well continue to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man, uh, does she have a favorite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I, well, I, I, I claim mine, you know, the, the maroon ride top, the one, you know, again, we've had that sense.

59:25.992 --> 59:27.593
[SPEAKER_01]: We moved back out here in 99.

59:27.653 --> 59:28.953
[SPEAKER_01]: I came across that in the field.

59:29.693 --> 59:31.534
[SPEAKER_01]: We've dropped it around with us ever since.

59:32.774 --> 59:39.616
[SPEAKER_01]: So when we restored it, you know, she had a say in my colors and and different things of that sort.

59:39.736 --> 59:41.436
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's is her favorite.

59:45.657 --> 59:47.397
[SPEAKER_00]: My wife has a favorite too.

59:48.038 --> 59:49.318
[SPEAKER_00]: Herz was the Carmen Guilla.

59:50.158 --> 59:59.680
[SPEAKER_00]: And when we cross the bridge of, you know, hey, if you're gonna be a part of this hobby with me and you know, you're gonna do these shows.

59:59.700 --> 01:00:02.581
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, me and my buddy put on several shows throughout the year.

01:00:03.501 --> 01:00:10.183
[SPEAKER_00]: My wife, you know, rolls or sleeves up and just gets, you know, all involved and totally, you know, gives her support as well.

01:00:10.883 --> 01:00:12.404
[SPEAKER_00]: But I remember the conversation,

01:00:14.044 --> 01:00:14.884
[SPEAKER_00]: do you want to get one?

01:00:15.385 --> 01:00:26.128
[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, uh, I mean, I don't really think I'm as passionate about them as you, but if the opportunity ever comes up, the Carmen Gi is the only one that I'd ever want.

01:00:26.269 --> 01:00:30.230
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, so you do like some of these air cool cars.

01:00:30.250 --> 01:00:31.911
[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, yeah, Carmen Gi is sexy.

01:00:32.211 --> 01:00:33.711
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the lines, et cetera.

01:00:34.292 --> 01:00:34.992
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, okay.

01:00:35.732 --> 01:00:43.635
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then, you know, a little bit more conversation starts to happen, and then I find out that she wants one, and she wants one that's not a stick shift.

01:00:43.675 --> 01:00:49.458
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, fuck, you're out, you know, who fuck wants to drive a old Volkswagen that's not a stick shift?

01:00:50.187 --> 01:00:51.288
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, well, hold on.

01:00:51.908 --> 01:00:55.690
[SPEAKER_00]: My first beetle, my 72 was auto stick.

01:00:56.091 --> 01:00:56.811
[SPEAKER_01]: Auto stick, yeah.

01:00:57.031 --> 01:01:00.814
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it was a stick shift, but it wasn't, because there was no clutch, right?

01:01:01.454 --> 01:01:04.356
[SPEAKER_00]: So then I started the research I'm like, hold on a minute, baby.

01:01:04.556 --> 01:01:09.459
[SPEAKER_00]: The Carmen Gia in the 70s came with auto stick.

01:01:09.539 --> 01:01:12.701
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, okay, I'm gonna find you this car.

01:01:13.161 --> 01:01:18.385
[SPEAKER_00]: So low on behold, we found one in Pennsylvania in this little barn.

01:01:19.355 --> 01:01:22.918
[SPEAKER_00]: one owner female loan 46,000 original miles.

01:01:23.959 --> 01:01:26.402
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like 12 grand, you know, she had to have it.

01:01:26.442 --> 01:01:29.304
[SPEAKER_00]: So we bought it for and that and that's it.

01:01:29.344 --> 01:01:30.805
[SPEAKER_00]: We've done some cool stuff to it.

01:01:31.526 --> 01:01:32.507
[SPEAKER_00]: It's her favorite car.

01:01:32.727 --> 01:01:33.268
[SPEAKER_00]: She loves it.

01:01:34.673 --> 01:01:44.463
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, a bit by the bug slash bit by the Carmen guilla, but that's cool to hear about your wife's favorite as well.

01:01:45.103 --> 01:01:47.986
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's talk about your your your your kids for a second.

01:01:48.046 --> 01:01:51.049
[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got four adult kids, right.

01:01:52.551 --> 01:01:55.233
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, any of them Volkswagen enthusiast.

01:01:57.122 --> 01:01:58.643
[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay.

01:01:59.023 --> 01:02:03.145
[SPEAKER_00]: That's okay.

01:02:03.285 --> 01:02:07.208
[SPEAKER_00]: I was lucky enough to have my last son that's driving now.

01:02:07.868 --> 01:02:20.596
[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's 16 and he just got a 2020 he got an MK 7.5 and brother That thing's got like 230 something horsepower.

01:02:20.616 --> 01:02:21.877
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like bro what?

01:02:22.868 --> 01:02:26.691
[SPEAKER_00]: My first car was a frickin' beetle with 36 horse power dude.

01:02:27.271 --> 01:02:31.514
[SPEAKER_00]: And that car was so damn slow, you know, my friends used to be embarrassed to ride in that thing.

01:02:31.534 --> 01:02:43.702
[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna get that little car and, you know, so I do have one that has a Volkswagen, but none of them are bit by the, you know, by the old school, you know, kind of air-cooled, air-cooled culture.

01:02:44.663 --> 01:02:44.963
[SPEAKER_00]: Director.

01:02:45.984 --> 01:02:46.864
[SPEAKER_00]: How about your grandson?

01:02:46.884 --> 01:02:47.845
[SPEAKER_00]: You got two grandsons?

01:02:49.028 --> 01:02:49.969
[SPEAKER_00]: They're both really young.

01:02:50.189 --> 01:02:53.672
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a six year old and a two year old grandson.

01:02:53.772 --> 01:03:06.884
[SPEAKER_01]: So the six year old is, you know, they're both really into, you know, how old and the normal thing is at this point, but not so it's like to that stage of, you know, being out in the garage when I'm working on them or things of that sort of quite yet.

01:03:07.004 --> 01:03:10.628
[SPEAKER_01]: But okay, I think I believe one of the two will.

01:03:11.597 --> 01:03:13.918
[SPEAKER_01]: find that passion and all honesty.

01:03:14.078 --> 01:03:16.018
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe that.

01:03:16.378 --> 01:03:22.400
[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say, do you hope one of them become as a part or both of them become a part of this college style?

01:03:22.460 --> 01:03:27.541
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he knows that stage of my life, you know, I may already have well gotten it to give him when they turn 16.

01:03:28.781 --> 01:03:30.742
[SPEAKER_00]: Bet you will, my brother, I bet you will.

01:03:30.822 --> 01:03:31.422
[SPEAKER_00]: I bet you will.

01:03:33.122 --> 01:03:34.123
[SPEAKER_00]: You've been married 32 years.

01:03:35.768 --> 01:03:41.730
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, what's something that you've learned about staying together that you may not have understood when you were younger?

01:03:42.130 --> 01:03:47.552
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't know what the whole key to marriage successes and all honesty.

01:03:48.132 --> 01:03:58.556
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the, I attribute it to the fact that I knew my wife for a couple of years prior to ever have any,

01:04:02.245 --> 01:04:07.526
[SPEAKER_01]: physical attraction to her I suppose you could say, we were friends.

01:04:08.006 --> 01:04:19.908
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, again, I know I was hanging out at her parents house and working on bugs and stuff like that and and I eventually moved in to their place.

01:04:20.329 --> 01:04:22.209
[SPEAKER_01]: I lost my apartment at one point.

01:04:22.369 --> 01:04:26.390
[SPEAKER_01]: And so her her dad in mom Greg and Sandy.

01:04:28.321 --> 01:04:30.062
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, offered a place for me to stay.

01:04:30.523 --> 01:04:31.564
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was staying there.

01:04:31.604 --> 01:04:34.346
[SPEAKER_01]: They both worked really odd hours.

01:04:34.706 --> 01:04:37.989
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I was just becoming a plumber and stuff.

01:04:38.089 --> 01:04:46.496
[SPEAKER_01]: And their kids were, you know, would come on from school, but they weren't able to be there after school, to, you know, make sure that the kids got fed, and different things.

01:04:46.516 --> 01:04:49.478
[SPEAKER_01]: So I kind of, wasn't really like a nanny.

01:04:49.738 --> 01:04:51.520
[SPEAKER_01]: I suppose, but I was kind of like,

01:04:52.462 --> 01:04:57.345
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in the evening, I was responsible to make sure all kids got home from school or whatever the case.

01:04:57.365 --> 01:04:57.906
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:04:58.306 --> 01:05:00.808
[SPEAKER_01]: And they did that chore school worker thing to that sort.

01:05:00.848 --> 01:05:10.394
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, after a couple of years that I had known her, I just, I'll make a brief thing about how I went down.

01:05:10.775 --> 01:05:13.897
[SPEAKER_01]: And my parents actually, I ended up talking to my mom and dad again.

01:05:13.917 --> 01:05:18.640
[SPEAKER_01]: And they, you know, we hadn't seen each other spoken a couple of years.

01:05:18.660 --> 01:05:20.922
[SPEAKER_01]: So they flew me out here to Colorado to spend Christmas.

01:05:22.041 --> 01:05:26.225
[SPEAKER_01]: And while I was here, Greg and Sandy were like my family.

01:05:26.285 --> 01:05:31.550
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, my wife Christina, you know, all of a sudden, that's when I realized I had feelings for this girl.

01:05:32.771 --> 01:05:41.098
[SPEAKER_01]: More so, you know, I felt like I had missed her more so that I missed my family, which was Greg and Sandy galled on the out the time her parents.

01:05:41.919 --> 01:05:45.682
[SPEAKER_01]: So when I came back, you know, I did the old school bandly thing and

01:05:46.155 --> 01:05:50.759
[SPEAKER_01]: went to our parents and said, let's not know where this is going, but I'd like permission to date your daughter.

01:05:50.779 --> 01:05:54.823
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, they have one role.

01:05:54.923 --> 01:05:58.326
[SPEAKER_01]: Their one role is, hey, just don't get rid of pregnant and leave her.

01:05:58.866 --> 01:06:00.388
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I would never.

01:06:00.608 --> 01:06:02.690
[SPEAKER_01]: And here we are, 32 years later.

01:06:03.290 --> 01:06:05.152
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're, you're a good man.

01:06:05.852 --> 01:06:08.054
[SPEAKER_00]: You're, you're, you're a great, you're a great man.

01:06:08.194 --> 01:06:10.376
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, you know,

01:06:13.759 --> 01:06:27.094
[SPEAKER_00]: Communication is key and I heard you say that about 303 dubs a little while ago and when I was right in that question for you, I've also been married 25 years and I been in my wife for a long time.

01:06:27.895 --> 01:06:30.698
[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of feel like we actually, we both grew up together and

01:06:32.560 --> 01:06:39.525
[SPEAKER_00]: People ask us all the time because, you know, a lot of my friends personally, you know, that have been around me for a long time.

01:06:40.085 --> 01:06:45.209
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe even some guys that have been born and raised here, they've already been through a wife or two.

01:06:45.849 --> 01:06:50.532
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they may have already stepped away from a family, etc.

01:06:50.612 --> 01:06:56.997
[SPEAKER_00]: So it does come out, you know, where people ask for advice, you know, and that's what comes

01:06:59.207 --> 01:07:10.294
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, communication, something else that we we talk about a lot, my wife and I that we recognize in marriages that last is you can't have two separate lives.

01:07:10.834 --> 01:07:14.876
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about the ranch, the plumbing life because we're kind of there.

01:07:15.016 --> 01:07:21.801
[SPEAKER_00]: We're kind of talking about, you know, some of your your hobbies, but let's talk, you know, a little bit about your business too.

01:07:21.861 --> 01:07:23.822
[SPEAKER_00]: So you own a plumbing company.

01:07:24.482 --> 01:07:27.264
[SPEAKER_00]: You live on a small ranch that's outside Denver.

01:07:28.580 --> 01:07:30.400
[SPEAKER_00]: pretty interesting combo, you know?

01:07:31.521 --> 01:07:34.801
[SPEAKER_00]: What's a normal day in the life of you?

01:07:34.821 --> 01:07:37.582
[SPEAKER_00]: What's a single day look like for you?

01:07:40.023 --> 01:07:44.164
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm usually out of my house by about five a.m. every morning.

01:07:46.164 --> 01:07:53.346
[SPEAKER_01]: Usually on a, you know, I, I, well, I want a commercial plumbing company.

01:07:53.646 --> 01:07:56.787
[SPEAKER_01]: I am typically in the field with my guys every day.

01:07:59.150 --> 01:08:01.171
[SPEAKER_01]: works orders and tells people what to do.

01:08:01.271 --> 01:08:03.171
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm one that's working right beside my guys.

01:08:04.471 --> 01:08:07.392
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'll run a jackhammer.

01:08:07.512 --> 01:08:08.132
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care.

01:08:08.232 --> 01:08:09.593
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've been doing it in my life.

01:08:09.673 --> 01:08:10.893
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't fade me one bit.

01:08:11.373 --> 01:08:12.714
[SPEAKER_00]: So come on commercial.

01:08:12.894 --> 01:08:18.235
[SPEAKER_00]: So for those that don't know, that's not, you don't go to houses.

01:08:18.835 --> 01:08:19.615
[SPEAKER_00]: You go to the lighting.

01:08:19.635 --> 01:08:22.256
[SPEAKER_01]: The only time I do houses is for

01:08:26.659 --> 01:08:37.707
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like to see anybody get ripped off and I will tell you why if you're calling any of those main people, affiliate with national brands, you're getting ripped off people.

01:08:39.888 --> 01:08:53.398
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when people reach out to me and say, you know, my house and I, if I know them or they're a contractor or a superintendent or some of that, we will absolutely go, I will send one of my guys to make sure that they get taken care of and not.

01:08:54.313 --> 01:09:09.236
[SPEAKER_01]: stolen from but you know I know I understand that a lot of people think that those their companies you know they have a reputation and you know they stand behind their work but those people are salesmen you know call call Joe blows plumber man call

01:09:09.817 --> 01:09:12.681
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, Mikey's plumbing, whatever.

01:09:13.001 --> 01:09:13.902
[SPEAKER_01]: Call those little people.

01:09:14.203 --> 01:09:15.124
[SPEAKER_01]: Other ones that care.

01:09:15.204 --> 01:09:16.505
[SPEAKER_01]: They're the same people as me.

01:09:16.666 --> 01:09:18.828
[SPEAKER_01]: The other ones that are going to come in and give you right.

01:09:18.848 --> 01:09:23.594
[SPEAKER_01]: And tell you what you really need versus what they want to sell you.

01:09:24.075 --> 01:09:24.435
[SPEAKER_01]: You know.

01:09:24.455 --> 01:09:25.176
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know.

01:09:28.362 --> 01:09:31.245
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, I'm a usually out of my house by about five a.m.

01:09:31.305 --> 01:09:32.686
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on a job by six.

01:09:33.446 --> 01:09:35.988
[SPEAKER_01]: We roll tell we get done typically.

01:09:37.009 --> 01:09:38.871
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd say two o'clock on average.

01:09:38.931 --> 01:09:41.673
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm headed back towards the ranch head home.

01:09:41.953 --> 01:09:42.594
[SPEAKER_01]: Get home.

01:09:43.074 --> 01:09:47.377
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't make sure my cattle have water feed pigs feed water.

01:09:48.931 --> 01:09:53.653
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, do you, you know, do you raise these cattle to harvest them?

01:09:53.913 --> 01:09:56.553
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I guess that is the right word, is that the right word?

01:09:56.613 --> 01:10:14.579
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, for, yes, you eat all, yes, they okay, I raised them for a couple of years and then, uh, depending on, you know, I started off with three couple females in a bowl, you know, they have babies in next year and I'm about five.

01:10:15.561 --> 01:10:20.060
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, things that sort of eventually was up to about almost 20.

01:10:21.507 --> 01:10:24.911
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, then it got kind of expensive to feed them and deal with them.

01:10:25.051 --> 01:10:35.781
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, um, so I mean myself back down, but usually if I typically will keep the females and raise them for a few years, that way they can breed and I can keep the herd going.

01:10:36.221 --> 01:10:45.670
[SPEAKER_01]: If they have a bull, I will castrate them right away and turn them into a steer raise them for about two years and then we'll send them off to the butcher and

01:10:46.130 --> 01:10:50.935
[SPEAKER_01]: between friends and family will distribute the meat, will sell it, or whatever that you know, typically.

01:10:51.855 --> 01:10:54.157
[SPEAKER_01]: Same with pigs.

01:10:54.318 --> 01:11:04.747
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, normally I raise two or three pigs because I do a pig or gross every year and we typically, you know, will my wife and I and whatever family come through will go through a pig a year ourselves.

01:11:06.509 --> 01:11:07.570
[SPEAKER_01]: The cost value is,

01:11:08.610 --> 01:11:16.956
[SPEAKER_01]: It just makes it, it's just so much more feasible, you know, for less than 700 bucks, I can raise 300 pound, I'll have 300 pound of the pork in my freezer.

01:11:17.236 --> 01:11:23.000
[SPEAKER_00]: Jesus, you know, I think I, I think I spend that one month on red meat.

01:11:23.040 --> 01:11:23.701
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

01:11:23.781 --> 01:11:23.941
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:11:24.061 --> 01:11:27.083
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I kind of cleared out that game.

01:11:27.323 --> 01:11:29.304
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, well, you know, we're doing this wrong.

01:11:29.384 --> 01:11:29.985
[SPEAKER_01]: We can spend.

01:11:30.695 --> 01:11:56.807
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, $4,500 and meet a month at the grocery store where as, you know, over the course of me raising them for two years and I spent three thousand I have two years where the meat, you know, I pulled a bullet and put out, you know, 1100 pounds of meat into your so, you know, you do that with a couple of pigs that, you know, we'll be average, you know, we're sitting on about thousand pounds of meat on average, you know, every year that we will eat and go through or whatever.

01:11:57.482 --> 01:12:07.472
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, the cost association from going to the grocery store is huge, you know, it just makes a big difference and the quality is incredible.

01:12:14.018 --> 01:12:30.839
[SPEAKER_00]: some of the absolute best meat I've ever had in my entire life comes from out west there comes from from Colorado there was a what's the what's the area code in uh in uh in uh boulder two oh three oh nine or something

01:12:32.774 --> 01:12:42.276
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a stake house in downtown Boulder that's got the the area code as like if it's like let's just say it's 303 just because that that's your club.

01:12:43.116 --> 01:12:46.377
[SPEAKER_00]: It's called 303 stake house right bro.

01:12:47.057 --> 01:12:55.779
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the best meat I've ever had in my entire life was a bison filet that I had from there that I could literally no kidding.

01:12:56.419 --> 01:12:59.280
[SPEAKER_00]: I could almost cut the meat with my fork.

01:13:00.494 --> 01:13:04.776
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how beautiful I mean bison from out there.

01:13:05.237 --> 01:13:05.877
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, dude.

01:13:06.017 --> 01:13:06.297
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

01:13:06.758 --> 01:13:07.498
[SPEAKER_00]: Local farmed.

01:13:07.878 --> 01:13:09.519
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the best meat I've ever had.

01:13:09.939 --> 01:13:11.540
[SPEAKER_00]: You messed with bite.

01:13:11.660 --> 01:13:12.761
[SPEAKER_00]: You messed with bison at all.

01:13:14.342 --> 01:13:18.084
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, we'll see.

01:13:20.655 --> 01:13:22.256
[SPEAKER_01]: You never know what comes along, right?

01:13:22.436 --> 01:13:29.601
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, I'm not afraid to take off opportunities, I know it's never presented with one that to try yet.

01:13:30.161 --> 01:13:34.264
[SPEAKER_01]: So I wouldn't think they would be any more different than, you know, raising a cow.

01:13:34.664 --> 01:13:36.945
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously I added out restaurants and stuff.

01:13:37.005 --> 01:13:40.648
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I know the quality of meat is very good, but that's what I meant.

01:13:40.808 --> 01:13:42.769
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I meant when I said to you, mess with them.

01:13:42.789 --> 01:13:43.229
[SPEAKER_00]: I got you.

01:13:43.330 --> 01:13:44.510
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, absolutely.

01:13:44.710 --> 01:13:46.331
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you beat them.

01:13:46.672 --> 01:13:48.313
[SPEAKER_01]: OK, yeah, sure, sure, sure.

01:13:48.853 --> 01:13:58.236
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you, you talked about, you know, running the jackhammer and you kind of lead by example and you wouldn't, you know, send the guys out in the field and do anything that you, you know, wouldn't do, are you?

01:13:58.857 --> 01:14:02.178
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you consider yourself somebody that has to be working with their hands all the time?

01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:05.379
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do.

01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:09.901
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if I don't have a game plan for myself, I waste away the day.

01:14:10.881 --> 01:14:13.342
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I, even on a weekend, I pretty much got a,

01:14:14.376 --> 01:14:30.867
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell myself what my game plan is for that Saturday morning like whether I got to get out and grade my road, whether I'm going to do a motor swapping one of my bugs or you know or fix a car, I've got to always have a game plan in motion because the minute that I don't

01:14:31.667 --> 01:14:54.797
[SPEAKER_01]: I will do nothing, you know, I'll find myself staring at my stupid phone or, you know, watch and TV or something and those are the two things I really despise in my life right now and I'll honestly, you know, I think I've been stuck to it for so long that now, you know, trying to just fill your day with adventures and

01:14:56.654 --> 01:15:07.522
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just sting busy is really help me get away from you know, or some of the things that I feel are downfall to our society.

01:15:09.430 --> 01:15:35.438
[SPEAKER_00]: it's so tough because for the last like 15 years of my life, I've been kind of like, I guess more or less a teacher, you know, I've been a sales trainer and you know, I've just done a lot in the trades for plumbing electrical, HVAC companies, I've traveled the country, you know, I've been fortunate and I've been blessed and the reason why I'm talking about that is because of this, you talked about devices.

01:15:36.478 --> 01:15:44.782
[SPEAKER_00]: for a number of years, I had like, you know, eight businesses on my phone that I managed through like Facebook or whatever, right?

01:15:46.483 --> 01:15:55.707
[SPEAKER_00]: In the pages app and the one of the biggest kind of Achilles heels for me and my life has been this frickin' device that we're just all stuck on.

01:15:56.387 --> 01:16:01.710
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, to talk on what you're describing, what you're what you're saying right now, I hate it.

01:16:02.773 --> 01:16:06.019
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate how much energy you know these devices take away from us.

01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:07.662
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate my kids have phones.

01:16:07.722 --> 01:16:10.466
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate that you know, it's almost like this.

01:16:12.048 --> 01:16:13.749
[SPEAKER_00]: just the fucking sucker.

01:16:13.889 --> 01:16:15.330
[SPEAKER_00]: It just sucks you in, right?

01:16:15.350 --> 01:16:17.591
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't absolutely.

01:16:18.091 --> 01:16:23.194
[SPEAKER_00]: But I hate to I hate to to be saying that because I also have to say this and back it up.

01:16:23.234 --> 01:16:24.615
[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like devil's advocate.

01:16:24.655 --> 01:16:28.758
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a necessary evil because I wouldn't be where I'm at my life.

01:16:28.778 --> 01:16:33.500
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't have been able to support the the companies I've supported over time as a consultant.

01:16:34.021 --> 01:16:37.843
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't have been able to do a lot of the things that I do even still right now.

01:16:38.930 --> 01:16:45.534
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this podcast is on fucking five social media outlets.

01:16:45.574 --> 01:17:02.826
[SPEAKER_00]: It's got a user, it's got a TikTok, it's got an Instagram, it's got it right, and it's like, you know, man, it's such a necessary evil, but it's like, you have to find a balance and not let it consume you, yeah, yeah, or true.

01:17:02.846 --> 01:17:03.006
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:17:03.346 --> 01:17:07.529
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's touch on the 23 window, because I know this is like the current obsession, right?

01:17:09.420 --> 01:17:11.663
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's tell the listeners about the 23 window.

01:17:11.723 --> 01:17:12.304
[SPEAKER_00]: What is it?

01:17:12.384 --> 01:17:13.265
[SPEAKER_00]: How have you find it?

01:17:13.886 --> 01:17:15.208
[SPEAKER_00]: What condition was it in?

01:17:16.069 --> 01:17:17.351
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's give the story of the 23.

01:17:17.391 --> 01:17:21.957
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, a friend of ours, actually another club member.

01:17:24.436 --> 01:17:26.797
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm going to keep him anonymous.

01:17:27.177 --> 01:17:32.280
[SPEAKER_01]: I think just got to respect for his business and for himself.

01:17:32.900 --> 01:17:37.863
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like if he wanted to be more known, he could easily do so.

01:17:38.363 --> 01:17:41.004
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not going to intrude on that for him.

01:17:43.345 --> 01:17:47.067
[SPEAKER_01]: He's had it for quite a while, 15 plus years.

01:17:47.707 --> 01:17:48.528
[SPEAKER_01]: He owns a shop.

01:17:49.308 --> 01:17:52.750
[SPEAKER_01]: He basically restores Volkswagen buses for a living.

01:17:53.537 --> 01:18:14.981
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, this is, you know, this is how he's made his living and I guess if you know him, you know him, if you don't, you don't kind of sit there again because he is he's definitely not somebody that is out there looking for people's work, but the people that know of his work, their parents are their way for him to do their work.

01:18:21.770 --> 01:18:39.713
[SPEAKER_00]: I want a 63 the 63 okay you already said that earlier but because we're here at this portion of this portion of the show I just want to give the listeners exactly the detail of what we're talking about so I guess what was the condition like when you when when you I mean acquired it.

01:18:41.033 --> 01:18:47.094
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's actually got he did take it pretty much 90% all the way through the

01:18:51.867 --> 01:18:53.128
[SPEAKER_01]: prepared or replaced.

01:18:54.408 --> 01:19:05.554
[SPEAKER_01]: It's down to really, you know, some finish up spot welding on a couple of the panels a little bit on the floor, you know, one of the jack supports.

01:19:05.655 --> 01:19:15.220
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very minimal when it comes to the leftover metal work and that's kind of what intrigued me is, you know, I don't have to go backwards with it, I guess.

01:19:15.300 --> 01:19:15.620
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it.

01:19:16.160 --> 01:19:17.701
[SPEAKER_01]: It's ready day, you know,

01:19:22.134 --> 01:19:27.317
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and they're doing the finishing the bodywork and getting ready for paint and stuff.

01:19:27.377 --> 01:19:32.480
[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, you know, this is another one of those lifelong dream vehicles for me.

01:19:32.540 --> 01:19:36.061
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going, you know, I'm, I'm bringing it out the way I want it.

01:19:36.281 --> 01:19:44.806
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be stock, it's, it's how I would envision a bust from, you know, my bus, I guess.

01:19:46.016 --> 01:19:48.497
[SPEAKER_00]: so let's let's touch on that.

01:19:48.677 --> 01:19:49.298
[SPEAKER_00]: What is that?

01:19:49.798 --> 01:19:51.319
[SPEAKER_00]: What is that and is this?

01:19:51.499 --> 01:19:52.479
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to be stock.

01:19:53.080 --> 01:19:54.840
[SPEAKER_00]: So was it going to be lowered?

01:19:55.661 --> 01:19:57.502
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, it's going to be hammered for sure.

01:19:57.522 --> 01:19:58.562
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

01:19:58.782 --> 01:19:59.423
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:19:59.483 --> 01:20:01.044
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:20:01.944 --> 01:20:07.307
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, I'm all for that new school look on on these cars and that cow look.

01:20:14.826 --> 01:20:25.348
[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely low fast big wheels, you know, my my style, I guess I'm still in size of on colors and things of that sort right now.

01:20:25.929 --> 01:20:30.650
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think I got to need to see it in a stance before I do snow.

01:20:31.050 --> 01:20:31.630
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you implement?

01:20:31.650 --> 01:20:33.330
[SPEAKER_01]: I was forcing a big good.

01:20:33.950 --> 01:20:37.411
[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say, what are you most excited about for this build?

01:20:38.231 --> 01:20:39.852
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess just for filling another dream.

01:20:40.592 --> 01:21:02.469
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's a, that's really, that's got to really what it, it's all about, you know, when I was, before I got and kicked out, just real quick story, when we moved to Houston, you know, my parent, you know, I had a bedroom in my mom was like, why don't you, I used to draw a line.

01:21:04.700 --> 01:21:31.692
[SPEAKER_01]: And she was like, why don't you paint a big mural on your on your wall and I drew a 23 window bus on my wall and it was probably it was damn your full size and when my parents came in after like 40s of me working on this and looked out there like blown away I just blown away that I had created this thing on my bedroom wall, you know, and you were you were really just speaking nothing into existence.

01:21:35.492 --> 01:21:46.819
[SPEAKER_01]: What's funny is the colors that I did the bus in are almost identical, but reverse to the bug that I just restored my round top.

01:21:47.359 --> 01:21:47.559
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:21:47.739 --> 01:21:53.463
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, you know, I might do a reverse of my my body.

01:21:53.503 --> 01:22:00.887
[SPEAKER_01]: It might be an argument gray with a maroon rose top and no, so I know who knows, you know, I'm not.

01:22:05.428 --> 01:22:12.160
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think that's part of the whole customization aspect in my mind is to get outside of that normal.

01:22:13.238 --> 01:22:13.998
[SPEAKER_01]: colorization.

01:22:14.078 --> 01:22:29.365
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's why we went with that maroon rose on my restoration around the on my butt was just we just know that it was going to pop off in the you know the sea of colors of your standard colors, you know, it was just going to be something that nobody had seen.

01:22:29.405 --> 01:22:39.670
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's that kind of makes the excitement for me as well, you know, when it comes to bills is is just give somebody that nobody's ever seen before and and let their imagination run wild.

01:22:41.502 --> 01:22:42.002
[SPEAKER_00]: don't man.

01:22:42.603 --> 01:22:43.463
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to see it.

01:22:44.624 --> 01:22:48.406
[SPEAKER_00]: Make sure you send me some pictures of it, even currently.

01:22:49.047 --> 01:22:50.588
[SPEAKER_00]: So here's a good question for you.

01:22:51.048 --> 01:22:56.211
[SPEAKER_00]: What does keeping the VW lifestyle alive actually mean to you?

01:22:56.472 --> 01:23:09.440
[SPEAKER_01]: No, like I say, you know, I've been in an out of it, I guess for many years, whether I was driving a car or supporting a show or whatever, and I think it's just a matter of making sure that that kind of thing continues on for the next generations.

01:23:10.191 --> 01:23:14.512
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, uh, so let me let me die deeper.

01:23:14.752 --> 01:23:28.657
[SPEAKER_00]: Is this more about preserving old cars or is it more about preserving the culture that's around them both, you know, I mean, I obviously at this point of my life, you know, I want to preserve as many as possible.

01:23:30.225 --> 01:23:48.787
[SPEAKER_01]: Whether I, again, I'm a temporary fix to them, you know, whether I sell them from month and somebody comes along and wants a better and buys it, or if it's something that I even best money into and fix up to, so I could drive it for a while and, you know, potentially get rid of it at some point, who knows, you know.

01:23:50.413 --> 01:24:04.675
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a collaboration of both the people, the continuation of the, the good people, the good vibes, the awesome cars, the individualities of everybody and their cars and, uh, and, uh,

01:24:05.207 --> 01:24:13.234
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and just making sure that these cars continue to be found and and put back on the road and in motion, you know, so others can enjoy them.

01:24:13.514 --> 01:24:26.286
[SPEAKER_01]: What happens to the Volkswagen culture if young people do not get involved, you know, like they are saying, and people's backyards not being touched right in a way, getting back to the earth, I guess, you know, it's.

01:24:26.826 --> 01:24:35.154
[SPEAKER_00]: And back to the years, how many cars are still out there, though, you know, because there were so many of them that were produced, right?

01:24:35.234 --> 01:24:36.375
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's not a control.

01:24:36.495 --> 01:24:38.096
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give you a real quick story.

01:24:38.256 --> 01:24:38.917
[SPEAKER_01]: Please do.

01:24:39.277 --> 01:24:39.818
[SPEAKER_00]: Please do.

01:24:39.958 --> 01:24:40.698
[SPEAKER_01]: Why doctor that?

01:24:41.119 --> 01:24:43.301
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have to walk back into on the green show this year.

01:24:43.321 --> 01:24:48.065
[SPEAKER_01]: I was approached by a friend of mine that and was accompanied by an older gentleman.

01:24:49.098 --> 01:24:56.781
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, and he says, hey, you know, this is the guy you need to talk to, this is my buddy Curtis introduced to this guy to me and says, you need to tell him what you have.

01:24:58.022 --> 01:25:11.888
[SPEAKER_01]: The guy says, I've got a bug that I'm trying to get rid of when I'm like, okay, you know what he got and he's like, well, I got a 57 oval bug that has been hanging from my garage rafters for 27 years.

01:25:14.755 --> 01:25:24.019
[SPEAKER_01]: What, he's like, I live over in East, I've bought the house in 1997 and I took it off the pan and I hung it from the rafters and it's been sitting there ever since.

01:25:25.259 --> 01:25:26.120
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.

01:25:26.320 --> 01:25:30.841
[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, okay, you know, like, I've been treated, what do you want for it?

01:25:31.062 --> 01:25:32.982
[SPEAKER_01]: He says 300 bucks.

01:25:34.463 --> 01:25:35.403
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, no, the car.

01:25:36.464 --> 01:25:37.924
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I want 300 bucks for it.

01:25:38.965 --> 01:25:39.285
[SPEAKER_01]: I said,

01:25:40.125 --> 01:25:42.167
[SPEAKER_01]: When can I come again?

01:25:42.547 --> 01:25:48.832
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he, I took his number and he actually started to walk away and ran back over to him.

01:25:48.872 --> 01:25:51.114
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, here, you know what, here's 300 bucks.

01:25:51.154 --> 01:25:53.836
[SPEAKER_01]: The car's so don't go running your mouth to anybody.

01:25:55.978 --> 01:25:58.920
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, that next week, I called my employees.

01:25:58.960 --> 01:26:01.442
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a little short day and I said, hey, I'm going home.

01:26:01.502 --> 01:26:03.744
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm driving my trailer meeting at this house.

01:26:03.764 --> 01:26:08.888
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go get this, this bug and sure enough, we open the garage and all my Lord, you know,

01:26:10.327 --> 01:26:19.666
[SPEAKER_01]: orange fifty seven with the old formula v pin stripes on the door hangin from the rafters

01:26:21.384 --> 01:26:24.126
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say 95% rust-free.

01:26:24.146 --> 01:26:25.647
[SPEAKER_01]: The pan is sitting below it.

01:26:26.788 --> 01:26:28.429
[SPEAKER_01]: The pan, they're great shape.

01:26:28.589 --> 01:26:30.351
[SPEAKER_01]: They are already repainted it.

01:26:31.852 --> 01:26:36.536
[SPEAKER_01]: It basically needed to put together, you know, and it opens the garage door.

01:26:36.576 --> 01:26:41.419
[SPEAKER_01]: But he walks up at the rear old glass window and says, here's your $300 part.

01:26:41.720 --> 01:26:44.061
[SPEAKER_01]: Get the rest of this out of my garage.

01:26:44.262 --> 01:26:45.623
[SPEAKER_01]: He was that over the car.

01:26:46.366 --> 01:26:47.466
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

01:26:47.547 --> 01:26:56.550
[SPEAKER_01]: So we've lowered it down on as little rook pulley back down onto the pan and push to right down to my trailer, strapped it down and drove off.

01:26:57.671 --> 01:27:03.553
[SPEAKER_01]: So needless to say that I didn't even make it to my house before I was sold to a friend of mine.

01:27:03.974 --> 01:27:07.295
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, the guy that I eventually acquired the 23 bus from.

01:27:07.815 --> 01:27:08.155
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:27:08.175 --> 01:27:09.616
[SPEAKER_01]: So he kind of we kind of

01:27:10.430 --> 01:27:12.872
[SPEAKER_01]: I reversed the situation where he helped me.

01:27:12.952 --> 01:27:16.236
[SPEAKER_01]: I helped him and that's what goes to show.

01:27:16.456 --> 01:27:18.138
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm going to do all about there.

01:27:18.778 --> 01:27:19.299
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man.

01:27:19.419 --> 01:27:19.699
[SPEAKER_00]: So.

01:27:19.939 --> 01:27:21.381
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.

01:27:21.401 --> 01:27:22.241
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're out there.

01:27:22.302 --> 01:27:23.102
[SPEAKER_01]: They're still out there.

01:27:23.162 --> 01:27:23.763
[SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing.

01:27:23.803 --> 01:27:27.487
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but yeah, kind of a cool story.

01:27:28.107 --> 01:27:29.729
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a very, very cool story.

01:27:31.153 --> 01:27:33.135
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, let's, let's ask this question.

01:27:33.175 --> 01:27:37.938
[SPEAKER_00]: If you could change one thing about the modern VW community, what do you think that would be?

01:27:37.958 --> 01:27:43.661
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I guess, you know, the only thing I could potentially say would be more of a one love scenario, man.

01:27:43.682 --> 01:27:46.383
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's not, it's not a club against a club.

01:27:47.064 --> 01:27:50.906
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, uh, this show against that show, man.

01:27:51.367 --> 01:27:54.369
[SPEAKER_01]: We do, every club does their events for the community.

01:27:54.749 --> 01:27:54.989
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:27:55.249 --> 01:27:57.771
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, you know, there's not.

01:28:00.430 --> 01:28:18.552
[SPEAKER_01]: there's not one club better than another man it really just comes into what what you fit in with you know some people are right for a club some people are right for different clubs some people aren't right for any clubs you know i mean it's just how they're cooking crumbles but if we can't support each other

01:28:19.372 --> 01:28:23.773
[SPEAKER_01]: through our differences and clubs, then we're a dying breed.

01:28:24.373 --> 01:28:35.076
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, because it does take a community to build these shows and these events and, you know, everybody needs this support.

01:28:35.276 --> 01:28:40.417
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I mean, that's kind of how I feel about that.

01:28:41.078 --> 01:28:46.679
[SPEAKER_00]: If you asked me that question, I would have to answer it by saying, make VW's cheap again.

01:28:48.915 --> 01:29:09.990
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think those days are long gone, you know, I know, I just remember those days so well because my bought, you know, my first call when they were cheap, you know, just let's say cost of living be less or subsidized for a you know, cost of living would, you know, and if everything in general were to be a less impact.

01:29:12.291 --> 01:29:20.895
[SPEAKER_00]: So, big picture, back to 303, where do you hope 303 dobs, I guess, what do you think it looks like 10 years from now?

01:29:21.836 --> 01:29:23.737
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you hope it looks like 10 years from now?

01:29:23.777 --> 01:29:24.497
[SPEAKER_00]: Better question.

01:29:25.057 --> 01:29:37.083
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I obviously see it progressing in size and think that's sort, but I would hope that we still all carry the same bond in friendship throughout the club.

01:29:42.355 --> 01:30:11.197
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I think it's hard to know where can you take these to, you know, where is the talk, where, you know, where is that to find line of of being above anything else or better than anything else and I don't know that that any of us have that aspiration to do that and honestly, I think we again just want to continue to

01:30:12.405 --> 01:30:31.207
[SPEAKER_01]: invite good people and you know make sure that we maintain that family structure if it stays the same size it stays the same size of it if it continues to grow as long as we keep that friendship and bond between ourselves then I you know then the

01:30:31.897 --> 01:30:40.041
[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows where it could go and honestly together that it sounds like that's what what what what your hope is just together, right?

01:30:40.081 --> 01:30:40.781
[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.

01:30:41.221 --> 01:30:41.582
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

01:30:41.602 --> 01:30:42.682
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:30:42.842 --> 01:30:45.884
[SPEAKER_00]: So describe the Volkswagen community for me and just one word.

01:30:45.904 --> 01:30:46.684
[SPEAKER_00]: I think.

01:30:49.225 --> 01:30:49.645
[SPEAKER_00]: Say it again.

01:30:49.665 --> 01:30:52.287
[SPEAKER_00]: I think loving.

01:30:52.347 --> 01:30:53.647
[SPEAKER_01]: You know just yeah.

01:30:54.448 --> 01:30:54.708
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:30:55.228 --> 01:30:55.628
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

01:30:56.048 --> 01:30:56.228
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:30:56.368 --> 01:30:59.510
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I would say that that's one word, brother.

01:31:00.237 --> 01:31:00.677
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.

01:31:00.998 --> 01:31:15.267
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've been treated with nothing but love from anybody that I've met in the duration of this Volkswagen adventure, you know, so, um, so yeah, you know, that's that's that's the key.

01:31:16.167 --> 01:31:25.774
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you could go back 34 years to the guy who bought his first VW bug and give that young man advice, what would you tell him?

01:31:30.659 --> 01:31:34.562
[SPEAKER_01]: regret necessarily anything obviously everybody makes mistakes in life.

01:31:34.622 --> 01:31:41.767
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, it aren't always happy with what they've done or what they could have done.

01:31:41.847 --> 01:31:45.549
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I don't, I try not to live in the past.

01:31:45.869 --> 01:31:48.611
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I can't change what went.

01:31:49.172 --> 01:31:57.297
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, in my looking back, I would just tell myself, man, just continue to do your best and thrive

01:31:58.798 --> 01:32:17.966
[SPEAKER_01]: what is maybe it may be it's in your collection maybe it's not but what is the one Volkswagen that you still hope you're driving when you're 80 years old yeah i mean it would be either the bus that i'm building now or my rag cop i mean another the two cars at all you know again i don't have the sentimental attachment to the 23

01:32:19.658 --> 01:32:30.911
[SPEAKER_01]: But the 63 rag, you know, being with my wife and I pretty much are, you know, our whole togetherness is a very sentimental project for us.

01:32:30.991 --> 01:32:35.656
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, we put a lot of money into that and it ain't going nowhere.

01:32:35.756 --> 01:32:39.600
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that that car, you know, could he eventually be my

01:32:42.863 --> 01:32:44.785
[SPEAKER_00]: crazy and cool same time.

01:32:47.608 --> 01:32:56.558
[SPEAKER_00]: If somebody's listening into this podcast at some point and they've never owned a classic Volkswagen before, but they're thinking about buying their first one.

01:32:56.739 --> 01:33:02.265
[SPEAKER_00]: What advice would you give them out of somebody who's had a life with them and who owns, you know, eight of them now.

01:33:02.625 --> 01:33:10.773
[SPEAKER_01]: But say, go to your local car show man and find a guy that has a Volkswagen asking for a ride because I'll almost guarantee you they'll give you one and they'll only take once.

01:33:12.235 --> 01:33:13.836
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I take once.

01:33:13.936 --> 01:33:23.466
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you really, you know, I hate because I only own a bug and I was just telling the story the other day.

01:33:25.048 --> 01:33:27.309
[SPEAKER_01]: and it's not really a story and just a feeling.

01:33:27.929 --> 01:33:47.236
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought driving the bug was the coolest feeling, getting into it even after having some time off for years of not driving one and getting the car done and driving it again, it just put you on this level that no other car, you experience that same feeling in, you know what I mean?

01:33:49.487 --> 01:34:05.160
[SPEAKER_01]: then I bought a bus and I'm like, oh my god, like how do you get higher than the but what are you doing at a bus and you know, I always just thought, you know, just the interaction from people taking pictures or giving you a thumbs up, driving all the road.

01:34:05.180 --> 01:34:09.243
[SPEAKER_01]: Just that kind of thing is put you on just such a height.

01:34:10.452 --> 01:34:11.572
[SPEAKER_01]: mental planning.

01:34:11.933 --> 01:34:14.754
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so hard to not enjoy that kind of thing.

01:34:14.774 --> 01:34:15.394
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:34:15.434 --> 01:34:17.775
[SPEAKER_01]: So somebody that's interested in one man.

01:34:18.275 --> 01:34:20.796
[SPEAKER_01]: I like to say I would go find somebody that has one.

01:34:21.296 --> 01:34:23.877
[SPEAKER_01]: If you've never been in one, haven't taken for a ride.

01:34:24.197 --> 01:34:25.818
[SPEAKER_01]: Most people will depend on what they have.

01:34:25.858 --> 01:34:28.199
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe like, hey man, you drive them.

01:34:28.359 --> 01:34:28.759
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.

01:34:28.979 --> 01:34:29.860
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll let you drive them.

01:34:30.200 --> 01:34:32.061
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I have no problem to have enough.

01:34:32.101 --> 01:34:33.921
[SPEAKER_01]: My kids, the people, you know what I mean?

01:34:34.322 --> 01:34:36.542
[SPEAKER_01]: I might go for a ride with them, but if

01:34:38.691 --> 01:34:47.183
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we have my pig roast or one of our guys in the clubs never driven a bus, but they're on the keys, it's going to provide just cruise down the country road.

01:34:47.223 --> 01:34:48.986
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you going to do one in the ditch.

01:34:49.346 --> 01:34:49.847
[SPEAKER_01]: Who cares.

01:34:50.207 --> 01:34:50.468
[SPEAKER_01]: You know,

01:34:52.535 --> 01:35:11.613
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, it's just to let those people feel that sensation, I think would absolutely be the deciding factor on whether or not they would be, you know, a fit for that style of vehicle or not, you know, if they're, if they're kind of planning it, all they would take would arrive in one, you know.

01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:20.928
[SPEAKER_00]: Usually that's all takes man and and and I get this I get this reaction all the time from people Wow, I didn't think this car was gonna perform like that.

01:35:21.088 --> 01:35:24.731
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think it was gonna be this smooth I didn't think it was gonna ride like this, right?

01:35:24.851 --> 01:35:36.382
[SPEAKER_00]: I always have a type of stuff a people that don't know They're always like this things a lot smoother than I thought, you know, it's like what do you think you think you were getting into a fucking wagon and it's like you know like what

01:35:37.459 --> 01:35:38.600
[SPEAKER_00]: Like what do people think?

01:35:38.780 --> 01:35:41.103
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, um, great advice.

01:35:41.403 --> 01:35:55.077
[SPEAKER_00]: What's cool about, all right, maybe what's more interesting about your story is that it started with a bug and then somewhere along the way you realize that the cars weren't really the point, the people were.

01:35:56.222 --> 01:36:05.791
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, the cars just gave the reason for all these people to come together, and that's what it's all about is is, you know, coming together and keeping these people together.

01:36:06.252 --> 01:36:11.136
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what, you know, 303's doing and a value you guys so much out there.

01:36:11.817 --> 01:36:16.019
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say thank you brother for coming on and you know sharing your story with us.

01:36:16.499 --> 01:36:22.662
[SPEAKER_00]: Before we wrap this thing up, do me a favor and tell me where people can find 303 dubs if they want to follow the journey.

01:36:23.123 --> 01:36:27.085
[SPEAKER_00]: Where can they find you if they want to follow your builds or maybe follow your journey?

01:36:28.025 --> 01:36:30.466
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know Facebook, Instagram,

01:36:32.597 --> 01:36:34.678
[SPEAKER_01]: I think TikTok three or three dobs is on.

01:36:35.458 --> 01:36:40.040
[SPEAKER_01]: We do have three or three dobs and family is also a Facebook page.

01:36:41.221 --> 01:36:45.963
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we invite everybody to join and don't matter if you're another club or not.

01:36:46.763 --> 01:36:48.484
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, post your events post.

01:36:50.184 --> 01:36:56.707
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you're going to go to a show or if you're looking for anybody to hang out with, you know, want to go on a cruise, you know, throw it out there.

01:36:56.787 --> 01:37:06.092
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're always, you know, willing to go meet other enthusiasts or hang out or show together or whatever, just, you know, get a reason to get together.

01:37:07.373 --> 01:37:10.034
[SPEAKER_01]: As far as myself, you know, it's just my name, Sean,

01:37:14.743 --> 01:37:17.746
[SPEAKER_01]: I am on Instagram, out of like a month ago.

01:37:18.186 --> 01:37:20.748
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really not a tech savvy guy, I'm just a dumb plumber.

01:37:21.309 --> 01:37:28.035
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I did to open an Instagram account, and that's under 63, VW RAD.

01:37:30.237 --> 01:37:34.100
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I don't, you know, I'm not a super,

01:37:35.398 --> 01:37:52.382
[SPEAKER_01]: Collaborator or anything that I posted a few videos and I've done a few little interviews like like you do Joe out our car show and again, I want to just make sure that I give some appreciation to the desert upfest out of Arizona.

01:37:53.202 --> 01:38:01.664
[SPEAKER_01]: I was I was interviewed by one of their people and that's what gave me the idea for our didn't redub fest to.

01:38:02.699 --> 01:38:04.720
[SPEAKER_01]: kind of go around and talk to a few of the people.

01:38:04.780 --> 01:38:07.282
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish I would have had more time to do that.

01:38:07.442 --> 01:38:09.443
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, everybody's story is so unique.

01:38:09.663 --> 01:38:16.707
[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty incredible to listen to and I feel honored that you had me on here to share mine.

01:38:18.108 --> 01:38:35.711
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the whole thing, the whole reason I started this podcast dude is because of what you just said, it's the whole reason I started it is because of the stories and the connection and just, you know, what what we get to experience, not just at the shows, but just being in this this culture, being in this life.

01:38:36.391 --> 01:38:38.692
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, uh, it's absolutely amazing.

01:38:39.112 --> 01:38:42.192
[SPEAKER_00]: I would never, I never would have expected that

01:38:47.393 --> 01:39:05.249
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm downloaded in 79 countries, you know, I've got hundreds of thousands of views, I'm into the millions of views now on the social media outlets, you know, between Instagram and TikTok, and wow, I'm not paying for that, like, like, what?

01:39:05.629 --> 01:39:07.812
[SPEAKER_00]: That's our community bro, that's our community.

01:39:07.852 --> 01:39:08.733
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how dope it is.

01:39:08.913 --> 01:39:11.937
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a wrap for this episode of Dub Life Diaries.

01:39:12.538 --> 01:39:18.085
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for riding along with us and diving into these incredible stories of the people in the Dub that drive their dreams.

01:39:18.685 --> 01:39:24.232
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01:39:24.813 --> 01:39:28.394
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have a story to tell or know somebody else who's living the dub life?

01:39:28.894 --> 01:39:29.234
[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.

01:39:29.654 --> 01:39:30.415
[SPEAKER_00]: Reach out to us.

01:39:30.575 --> 01:39:33.275
[SPEAKER_00]: You can find us on all socials and dub life diaries.

01:39:33.775 --> 01:39:35.096
[SPEAKER_00]: Or shoot me an email.

01:39:35.336 --> 01:39:36.236
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not hard to find.

01:39:36.636 --> 01:39:39.157
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01:39:39.657 --> 01:39:45.399
[SPEAKER_00]: Until next time, keep the engine tummen and the wheels turning and always follow the road that inspires you.

01:39:45.779 --> 01:39:46.859
[SPEAKER_00]: This is Joe Person.

01:39:47.019 --> 01:39:47.859
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm signing off.

01:39:48.099 --> 01:39:49.920
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll catch you on the next ride.