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Oct. 3, 2026

From Muhammad Ali’s Training Grounds to Tattoos & Volkswagens Scottie Morgan Ep 84

From Muhammad Ali’s Training Grounds to Tattoos & Volkswagens Scottie Morgan Ep 84
From Muhammad Ali’s Training Grounds to Tattoos & Volkswagens Scottie Morgan Ep 84
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From Muhammad Ali’s Training Grounds to Tattoos & Volkswagens Scottie Morgan Ep 84

What do tattoos, Volkswagens, Muhammad Ali, and a historic mink farm have in common? More than you might think.

In this episode 84 of DubLife Diaries, we sit down with Scottie Morgan, tattoo artist and owner of Homebase Tattoo, for a conversation that goes far beyond cars and ink.

Scottie’s tattoo shop sits on the historic former Pollack’s Mink Farm in Deer Lake, Pennsylvania, a property with an incredible connection to boxing legend Muhammad Ali, who trained there during his rise in the sport. Today, the same property has been transformed into a tattoo studio—bringing together history, discipline, creativity, and art in a place with a story all its own.

Scottie takes us through his journey into tattooing, his approach to creating art for clients, the evolution of tattoo culture, and the business of building a successful tattoo shop in the age of Instagram, TikTok, and viral content.

Of course, we also dive deep into Volkswagen culture—from Scottie’s first VW to his modified Tiguan, the VW community, car shows, water-cooled Volkswagens, and his plans for future builds. We talk about how car culture has evolved, why the VW community is different, and how creativity connects the worlds of tattooing and automotive customization.

We also uncover some fascinating stories from the property’s past, including the surviving remnants of the mink farm and the history surrounding Muhammad Ali’s time there.

This is a conversation about cars, tattoos, history, creativity, business, social media, family, and simply showing up and doing the work.

Whether you're into Volkswagens, tattoo culture, car builds, automotive lifestyle, or just a great story, there's something here for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to Dublife Diaries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are in for a banger tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're about to hear why.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What if I told you that the tattoo shop that we're about to talk about tonight sits on the land where one of the greatest fighters in history once trained?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Before there was home-based tattoo, this was Pollock's Mink Farm, a place in Pennsylvania mountains where fighters came to escape the noise of the city and sharpened their craft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of those fighters was none other than Mahavad Ali.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, how cool is that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ali trained right here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He fell in love with this area and eventually that journey helped lead to the creation of what became fighters haven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: now fast forward more than 50 years and this property has a completely different type of artist now that makes other people, other types of people, artistically walk through those doors, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Instead of fighters that are trying to perfect their crafts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's tattoo artists that are creating permanent art on people's skin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our guest today is Scotty Morgan, the owner and a tattoo artist at home base tattoo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He'd just work here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's what's kind of cool about this story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He actually lives on this same property with his family, surrounded by the remnants of this property's incredible past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now when he's not tattooing, this is a Volkswagen podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's built in his other obsession, which is his 2018 Volkswagen Tiguan, turned it a completely ordinary family SUV into his version of a dream build.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we got Mahavanali, we got tattooing, we got family history, creativity, and Volkswagen's all coming together in one place, a different craft, a different canvas, but the same ground, this is the story of Scotty Morgan from home base tattoo, welcome to Dublife.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's up, man, what's up, is this that you live and work on the land where Ali trained and then was inspired to come back and build his own gym out there?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When I first moved here, I always knew about it and then slowly like the neighbors, some of the neighbors are like older and they come and they tell stories.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, then they'll be like, you know, Peter trailer over here, which he kept this in and he kept his roll boys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I, I taught my car at night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're at my own alleys and part is Rolls Royce.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, uh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: We did put a fool where the boxing line used to be outside, but so cool, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, before we dive into this incredible story, let me give a shout out to a couple of my sponsors first up on the list, Volk's Mania Magazine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, my friend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm done with the shout outs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's back to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You ready?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then vote a poultry guys or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My dad needs to build cigar boats down in

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[SPEAKER_02]: like interiors, paint jobs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, like some of those boats are wild and this guy is a superstar when it comes to interiors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Check his website out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're a poster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like if I wanted to get my interior like read a poster, I would go to the boat guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That stands down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a couple of lines too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he does he does something really, really, really custom, really badass work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, here I'll even touch on this for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just did a 74 Volkswagen thing that he entered into Bugsham last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: About a thousand cars at Bugsham.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He won best in class.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got a first place trophy, but check out why.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The piping, the outer stitching on these seats is the VW logo stitched.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're tattoo artists, so little details, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you recognize that type of shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How cool is that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, all right, let's get this thing started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got a cool story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to hear it before we get into this crazy story, this crazy property.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Take me back in time a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me who is Scottie Morgan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What were you doing before home base tattoo became your life?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tattoo was really always been my life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I learned how to tattoo back in like 2009, graduate, and I was seven.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a little bit of time where I was going college and doing internship to do graphic designing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, I was photoshopping pictures of fire trucks every day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I don't know if something about it just made me like reconsidered like, oh my god, I'm going to school for this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, we had no idea things like, hey, I were on the way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like, even that little bit of information if I were to know them back then, I would've been like, oh my God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, how old were you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, how old were you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What age were you when you realized that maybe this isn't just something that you enjoy doing, but maybe even something that you were going to try to build a life around?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a very like rock star lifestyle man, and as soon as like, I feel like it's very easy to get carried away and just, you know, want to party and I don't know you're the tattoo artist guy, you know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So like I, I know that back in the day was cool too, then it is now there's a lot of stuff I don't know, so I'm still pretty cool, and you can be a rock star.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so like I feel like until maybe about like six or seven years ago, I didn't, you know, I mean, I was just tattooing and drifting by and, you know, and if I've learned something along the way that it was, it was when it was and then I got out of jail and actually that's what I buckled down and I was like, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I need to do this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I need to do it right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I need to show up to these conventions that, you know, the tattoo conventions like whether or not everybody likes you there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you show up, they have to know who you are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I had this like my set of like I'm just going to keep going up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to keep doing it until somebody, somebody's bound to notice because like I'm just being loud all over the place, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're sorry, you got to show up, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I've been general, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You got to show up and everything, absolutely everything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not any person to job, just showing up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't do it if you don't show up, you know, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk about is it, is it or wigsberg?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do I pronounce that city name and in Pennsylvania?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's or wigsberg or wigsberg.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, how did you end up in or wigsberg?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I live in like, I live in a coal miner's house.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, coal miner's house.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like the whole, like, how he itself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Gore's bird is like one of the nicer parts of our, like, counties were in the woods.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were not really in the town and in all the mess.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like, we're just, we're kind of just like off the highway, but like, out in the bushes, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I love it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I was born in Houston, Texas, in Pasadena.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I was raised up here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We live about like 10 minutes, not even like five minutes from a, I live like five minutes from the Reading Railroad Station if you've ever played Monopoly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know if you've ever seen the pitchers like the people's cars and they park in front of that like Brent Pugoda It's like a Japanese building that's a little bread and everybody parks outside and takes pictures.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's like right by my house I'm about like 20 minutes away There was people I drove from all over Florida, Canada

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a whole fucking couple of our friends from Massachusetts and everybody drove to Pennsylvania for low-show and then they lined up my legs down the street to take pictures from this side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And to us it's just like another day to be gone or let's drive by and you know that's wild.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll get out the car and smoke a cigarette, get back in, y'all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, when you first saw this property, did you really, did you know anything about its history?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so the property itself was my girlfriend owned with her ex husband and she sold it to her mother when they broke up and now it's like our compound.

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[SPEAKER_02]: like over a little over 5,000 square feet and we like her sister lives upstairs with her boyfriend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love downstairs, and I have the whole, and it's like an extension off the building too, which is the shop.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and uh...

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[SPEAKER_02]: Between me and my girlfriend, total, like we got five kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have kids, I got five kids between me and my wife.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, so me trying to work full time and another tattoo show about paying somebody else and percentage of my money and trying to get the kids from school, our kids of school, I take them to school, I pick them up from school.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I just literally can't do any of these things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And still be present.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my job and here my girl you get to drive you get to drive that take one to and from I think you're the spoiled one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, you know what's praising is like I was hoping I could get in a little loud in this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm scared to turn it man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody wants to turn their cars get it down by getting tuned and I'm like, I don't know it's a 2018 but I got 180 thousand miles man like I.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got miles and just be tune in the shit out of this car.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was cool to mark up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I have our change in my life group.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We, uh, because now I have like a different relationship with the dealership, um, in the people that work at the dealership, like they'll come pick our cars that, you know, shout out to J. Burrellette, they will come pick our cars up and take it over for us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like, leave us with something to drive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're just like, we're like this with the service there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And one day they left this with an ID for.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's an electric SUV and up to this point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I wasn't like the dance electric cars, but I need excuses of why I shouldn't own an electric car.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Why do people you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like personally never driven one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I really had nothing to stand on and then I've driven every time I've driven one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: single petal mode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what they thought.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They might have a name for a beige one petal mode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like

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[SPEAKER_02]: When you let off the gas and just start breaking, so all you're doing is just gas and you're going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's also not the most awesome, the motor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The motor is hanging on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the motor is creating drag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it actually allows your brakes to last for like, fucking 300,000 miles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, dude, it's so great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just felt like interior wise lacking because I'm like, I'm driving as giant computer and you couldn't just, that's one way to look at it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean, you can just give me something like a display screen going across the whole Friday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not hating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So real quick though, back to this property and then I'm going to ask it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about the abuse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: when you found out or when you learned yourself as an individual that Muhammad Ali trained here and you heard some of these stories and stuff like, what was your reaction?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hadn't found out for myself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This was like me Googling, me talking the chat, me messing with people a little bit, fight your statement.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to know as much as I could find out about this and like I dug deep into it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have pictures of the make farm, I have pictures of Muhammad Ali actually coming down some of the trees and the property off to the side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's this one really cool picture that I found online and it is a...

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's Bernie Pollock, who first of all looks like, I don't know, like a villain from like James Bond movies that I've actually never been, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's playing a main, which is a weasel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a, it's a theory, kind of, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And how am I at least standing there?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's about to box it like a speed band.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, in our, this picture's taken in our yard and it's this like, I don't know, it's one of my,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's actually the coolest thing ever did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, what a cool thing to know that the culture and the history of Muhammad Ali and, you know, before he opened Fighters Haven and all of that influence came right there, right there where you live and work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we spend a whole summer in a bug-ground pool that we had a sitting on the boxing pad, and I'm always just like, this is so funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be in their, you know, fight with the kids in, and, you know, rough housing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like the message to kids.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really like the kids do it as a joke now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I did freak them out a little when they were younger, but now it's like our family joke that like, you know, if something falls off a shelf, it's because this house is haunted by the home and I'll leave you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, no, it's somebody can't find your keys and I'm like, yeah, real funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mom, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's too wild, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get into Volkswagen's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's talk about your current obsession.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How'd you get into, I guess, cars first?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then maybe tell me why VW's.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I wasn't originally like a Volkswagen person.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I grew up during like the Fast and Furious phase.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like the whole scene like I was born in 89.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where your Fast and Furious came out, but I specifically remember the movie coming out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember seeing the second.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, I'm not even that old, but I just specifically remember she in the second fast and furious at a driving movie theater.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember being a movie theater, having the FM radio on and my buddy Z clips with the sample first in the back to two, 12, bumping, Joe Boney, and while the little lights up, I've lost his screen in your army.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, um, what I grew up in that age, and so...

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[SPEAKER_02]: My seventh birthday, which is before this happen, both my aunt showed up to my birthday party with brand new evil talents.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And to me, this was like one of the coolest facets, sports cars in my childhood debt.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've ever been in, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a fascinating figure's coming up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm like, oh my God, that's the same car, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm hopefully like a little kid at this time, but I can see this is the same vehicle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I my first car was DSM.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I went straight for eclipses.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My first home was non-turbo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My second one was turboed and then And then I met Max life and she was pregnant and Eclips only had two doors and she had a Volkswagen and this is why I moved to like this part of like burps townie and like

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[SPEAKER_02]: Pennsylvania in the Pennsylvania duction area.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody here is German or Pennsylvania and Dutch and there's a lot of German bars.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of, like, we're now away from honest people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So everybody drives German bars, except for me, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, okay, I'm good at it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna convert, you know, and this is during Craigslist Day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's me on Craigslist, post in my car, for trades, some guy gets me up, he's like, dude, I have a VR6.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a, there's, I don't know, 97 GT.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I blew the headguess down the way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my thinking it was already like on display out when he gave it to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, a way home and I now you have opportunities now, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got that you have to take one now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you said your current lady has has a Volkswagen too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have opportunities to to engage with the community.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you what do you like?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What what stands out about the Volkswagen community to you the people?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so recently we just, I don't know, there's about like a month ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I went to Ocean City, Maryland, and we went for a Jeep week, and it was cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I ain't on Jeep, so it was cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I kept saying I was like, this is all right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just expecting there to be more jeeps.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, like, like, like, like, don't kill me or nothing, but I just expected there to be more jeeps.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we get there and we're walking around everybody's like, you need to stop hanging.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like, I just feel like the Jeep community

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they can, they can, they can support each other a little better, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so two weeks later, after being told I'm a hater, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We get to Lo Show and it is just insane.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a thousand cars in the show lined up down the whole main street across town.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people are getting upset because I live 45 minutes from Lo Show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it will be when up there at Lo Malls every night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's like a thousand people lined up down high street and then

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[SPEAKER_02]: There are shoving people on the police station parking lot, CBS parking lot, these people are getting pissed off because it's the year the GTI, what is it, 50th anniversary or something?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So 50th anniversary, that was last year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they did the public one thing, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, there was a bunch of, yeah, but the GTIs there and a lot, like some of them weren't so modified.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were just there because they wanted to be part of the GTI thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think the hard look when goes down in history for Volkswagen, to be the lowest production manufactured car ever off of their assembly line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think like the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: 96 model year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was only had, like, 264 average cars, which is like, holy shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's rare.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We saw a bunch of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We saw an outlet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was how we're going down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So like my whole thing is going to get that is that like we put out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I just say, if we look, if we were to take in those stained people that are at low show and go shove them all in Ocean City, it would have to like call the National Guard to like come tell us you could go home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We

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[SPEAKER_02]: You wouldn't be able to get gas, you wouldn't be able to get to the beach, we would take up literally the whole entire town, and there would be no activity except for everybody getting upset with each other because we're only telling this way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it'd be chaos.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if Lo Show moved into like a small little beach town, I think it'd be, I'm just saying, there would be a lot of people in five stands.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was hard to get around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, there's, there's something about VW people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you catch this vibe, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll ask you if you agree or not, but there's something about VW people where a lot of times the car almost becomes secondary to the culture, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the car is why if they come, but it's the community and the people is why they stay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that's true?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've a bunch of, we go to a lot of shows around here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We go to a lot of different things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, like we're like one giant fit, how many people do you know that you actually don't know their name?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're calling them drive probably a decent amount actually, but all the things I promote car shows down here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm guilty, but that's that's who that person is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is that that's who they are as a person in an art form that they put out in a

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, let's talk about your take one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me a little bit about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, it's an MQB 2.0 turbo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, uh, they put up there in the GTI's Mark 7 GTI's.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're in a couple other things, but it all depends on what spec you have like, uh, I have an highest 12 turbo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the GTI has the highest 20 and you can look all this up if you're supposed to make no sense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, um,

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then what's it, what A3S3 has the I S38, but it goes up by turbo size with the different trends, but I love my man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got so we could have got the online, but we got the third row because of the kids obviously and I have all the same little bolt on parts that a GTI would have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I make all the same washing noises that a GTI would make.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I still have third row, uh, everybody is like, oh my god, are you bad?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, no, I'm static.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm running around on foilovers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my second set of them in two years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is a lot of stress.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The way to the vehicle, like I don't care it anybody says, like I've collapsed two sets of rear springs already, just from putting people in the back and driving the Texas or Florida for a tattoo convention.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have gone through some suspension parts, but other than that, a amount of 180, 2000 miles and the only thing that has ever happened to it,

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[SPEAKER_02]: was that it went into limp mode because it needed cool facts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, bro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to the two liter turbo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My son's got a 2020 MK 7.5 GTI and the same motor slightly bigger turbo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a, that's a, that's a little rocket dude.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like I've been trying so like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I said because of the miles, I don't really want to tune this shit out of it and destroy it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I have no resonator.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have no muffler.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm still just kind of like a little tiny noise like I've got mufflers off for as before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It makes noise.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've had this whole tire exhaust on twice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We keep sending it to people who have to do welding jobs and get rid of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just like, how does it still not making noise?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those downpacks and cacks, they're, they're the speed mufflers, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Loom mufflers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is your ultimate vision for this car?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do want to get it to a point where I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So this year, I went to static struggle and I got a VIP spot and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's getting up in my eyelids, but I just kind of want to get it together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Get it like rats and make it like, you know, put my phone base logo on it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and just be able to take it places.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am thinking about getting another one and like daily drive by this one becomes more of a, like we can car.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, I'm not really there yet because I keep driving.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I drive it all day, every day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody knows who it is when I'm out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Every dodge charger just thinks it's fast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They want to raise it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If I'm just like, oh my god, people come off all this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Especially like jeeps, SUVs, charities, and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They come up and they're like, I'm like, dude, I can't race with kids in the car down every single time I leave the house.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, you see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's lower it and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it looks tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, do you have any other, any other VWs that you, that you like that you maybe would want that you have an own yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, like, I would try.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, I, I honestly, I like, I wasn't for all the electric cars recently at Droman ID for and now all the sudden, like, I just like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, dude, you gotta drop the price on this bus.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I can buy one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's buses.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it'd be a cool afternoon for the shop.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it'd be a cool show car.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it'd be for the safety kids places.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I could pack it up with stuff for the conventions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it'd be an all-around pool car.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's still a novelty.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know if I'm ready to pay an novelty and price for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, they're pretty bad as though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're pretty.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're pretty bad as.

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[SPEAKER_02]: See, if you ever see one inside, they have like a play button on the gas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to pause, but on the break pedal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my wife and I last year, we went in test drove them and we were actually going to buy one and then I heard that they were going to stop making them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I let all that happen and they did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They stopped producing them for

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[SPEAKER_01]: or for real six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now they're bringing them back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they skipped a year of what they ought to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, you know, I'll probably catch some shit for this, but it's all good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They ought to put a gas engine in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They ought to put a two liter turbo in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I swear to God, that thing, you would be able to, you would be able to, to keep it in stock.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the biggest gripes people have is they don't want it because it's electric, but I promise me personally,

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think it defeats the purpose of the name because they had the name of the buzz and they pinned themselves into like this little lightning bolt picture that they can't like escape and put a gas motor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They would have to call the bus again, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I heard a rumor though that Mexico was going to pick up production and the first thing they were going to do was put a TDI in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh my god dude, if that's really the truth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it's going to sell millions of these things all over the world if they if they do that, but that turned out to be a myth buster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like out where we live, we have a pretty big diesel community out here just with everybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The trucks, yeah, along the Volkswagen's most of the truck guys and they do have daily is their TDIs too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean, like

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[SPEAKER_02]: Stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I know some people have problem getting like the what is it the flex fuel and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like every gas station around me has it out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, too, where I'm asked, you know, they all have, they all have diesel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's $46.50 a gallon, and it's, it's here, and I'll rising every day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't look, and just, just palm, yes, I mean, no parchment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I, I feel though for the folks that do have to look, I, I do, I do, I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do, I do, I do form.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These gas prices are relentless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fortunately for me, I'm in a position of my life where I just get gas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, let's go back to this Mohammed Ali connection because I want to go back to the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like this is one of the coolest stories that I've ever heard connected to a tattoo shop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's let's rewind the clock a little bit for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell us exactly what was Polox make farm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so folks make for them, uh, they actually out on the side of the building, those yard they had, nothing but cages filling it up into the woods on the next property over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it all used to be one property, somehow somebody died.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Guy Frost's straight related to Amanda got with a piece of that's next to us, y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'

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[SPEAKER_02]: between that and the fact that gambling is just like a universal problem around this area that it was like not back in the day as well and they were, you know, between gambling, having the money to gamble, knowing these people and being able to get his foot in the door, I just feel like he became a promoter realizing where the big bucks were and that's when he started bringing the people in here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: to actually have like, like, I don't want to say having an area, but like, a little area of cages where you can get them, and then in the 70s, I don't know if your was, uh, somebody let them all out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, uh, what do they thought?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The, the animal abuse people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They animal rights activists type people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I came to let them out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's just funny though, like during that time, maybe not through people living here,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me ask this question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think it was?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No one the history now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was it about this property that made it so attractive to fighters?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Quietness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was peaceful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We really call it a compound.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have neighbors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have people all around us, but like, aren't even our own neighborhood is like, why we're like the village people we keep everything in our, I like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what, like, I can spit and hit the highway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like we're tucked away that far.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean, but we're at least like out of the way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like back in the 50s, I've seen pictures, but like, you know, we don't, there's not enough pictures or videos or anything, but there's supposedly there is like an amusement park lake at the time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love it on a place called Dear Lake.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right now it's under construction.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't had water in it on those three years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We were promised that next year there will be lake water in the lake again, but...

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[SPEAKER_02]: which I'm dying for because I'm going to be able, I don't know, I'm going to buy a golf cart in some fishing rods and you know, he keeps down to screw around at the playground and just, I don't know, another thing that I'll find play with, but that actually sounds super appealing down here in Florida.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't do nothing near a lake side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You will, you will get attacked by a gator down here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is, that is no joke.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you just do the world dearly, Muhammad Ali, there's pictures in him running up and down in this street, uh, back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what was what, what was Muhammad Ali doing in his life when he first started coming to Polak's make farm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you, do you know from the history or from what you've learned it was, I think he was just like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to put anything, but I feel like he's just starting off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: of becoming bigger in the scene, which is when we found him and brought him out here to kind of buckle down and focus.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, moving Muhammad Ali?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It starts about, I don't know, like, year to a year and a half after the main farm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because like, I, I, I never even watched that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What, I think it has a little sniff in it, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, dude, I need to go back and watch the movie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, maybe maybe they mentioned it here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I, Google told me it started after this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was just like one of the cool things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you go online, you can find pull up

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's like little max books and like business cards and stuff that are still going around on eBay selling and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We want to buy some of it eventually and kind of like like my shop walls with like shadow boxes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, cool bro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, wasn't there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I read the the history.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think even from your website wasn't there like this famous outdoor boxing ring there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, it's not on what happened to us before we gone here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We live at the bottom of the hill, like on a mountain, we live off the side of a whole mountain ridge, a range.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We live off the side of a whole mountain range, off the Appalachian Trail, and all water comes down here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's how they, I'm assuming that's how they keep like the lake filled and everything that would come down, they'd dam it up, they'd control how much they'd keep inside it, and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: OK.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, I, I, I, everything, and from what I read online, everything was getting washed out and destroyed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We did have to be dig a big French train when we first got here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it was apparently still a problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But so through history and through what you've learned, why did Ali eventually decide to purchase his own land very close to there and build this right, to train indoors and bring more fires out here to train with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, some, well, they're like long caverns and stuff where they would stay and then they have the one room at the big box and ring it you can go up there when after they have like a tour you can go up as long as they're open and check it out and see everything and then as soon as you pull in there's

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[SPEAKER_02]: Look a big blue sign saying that something historic will happen here and it mentions the Polak make farm on the sign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so cool, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you ever walk around there or associate any pictures that you see online to like tie it to where like you can see like holy shit, like Muhammad Ali will stand then right here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have a picture of him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have a picture of him standing on the hill up here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's Muhammad Ali and he looks like he's boxing a man which is like a ferret, like a weasel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And

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[SPEAKER_02]: Bernie Pollock's holding on, and he's an eye patch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He kind of looks like a villain from an old James Bond over yourself in his suit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: He had to be like a very wealthy man and at the time of the between the main coats and just like how Dapper he would always dress and probably the main coats alone, bro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a luxury thing back then.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's like gangster, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, I lost.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That'll be my next thing I look up is how I lost the eye.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, and I mean, it's, I feel like it's getting lost.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like, um, the history of the fighters do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you ever see like any, like, mom and I leave fans or anybody that like tries to come there for the, like, old news that go up to the, they have, like, seminars up there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have meet and greet some different boxes that down in fighters haven't, and then.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They tell them about the main farm and so little Google a main farm They'll show up wall be outside hanging out working on Volkswagen and we're like what's up man?

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[SPEAKER_02]: How's it going?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I like you know, we want to tattoo shop here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it could be a tattoo walking up and they're like yeah We're just at Mahal and Ollie think we're hoping we can kind of like take pictures and talk with you all I'm like well, I don't know enough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so you tell me because I and I get a lot of information off people like that too

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'll be cool and I'm just I'm just dreaming and thinking with you here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be cool if at one point you recreated that outdoor boxing ring and you start you started charging people to come take a tour of that bitch.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Make some money off of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Monatize.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all right, tell me this, what's the coolest Muhammad Ali story that you've ever heard that's connected to your property?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I feel like it was a quiet time for him, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think like one of the coolest things is the neighbor telling us that he parked his Rolls Royce on the side, and sometimes I'll like get out of my car and I'll look back and give it like a beep beep and I'll be like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: There'll be another old-roiness here one day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, I don't want to be that guy, but it says, I, I, I'm almost 40 and people are just looking at me crazy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what the hell are you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, no, dude, you're only 35.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no way you don't remember this, like, yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, what kind of rock were you born under?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it's the truth, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, the same thing actually happens in in our culture in in the Volkswagen culture, especially on the air cool side, even guys here age, you know that are like, I don't know what it for me is, don't know what the thing is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't know the difference between like the subtle windshieldscape on like a super beehive or a regular vehicle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never owned one and I know that information because this is all because you're a Volkswagen guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This looks like it's super cool stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really interesting stuff about the evolution of your property.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fighters came to that property to perfect their craft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, tattoo artists come here to perfect theirs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that there is any type of a connection to, I guess, the artistry in just the universe and how it draws or attracts people to how home base tattoo was created?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, but I'd say when we make a lot of push about it and I feel like people think it's cliche and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But we'll be like, you know, we're still here building fighters.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're still here building people that That are going through shit and they're getting that tattoo and

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's changing their life like I've been tattooing for six and years so like just doing a little tattoo I don't really do a whole lot of the little touches We usually hire other people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually the guy who who taught me how to tattoo back in 2009 works here now for me And he is in his 50s so social media is like isn't his then

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know what the tattoo, so you give him some stuff that Yeah, yeah, and then I do a lot of like the really big pieces and stuff that take all day and shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, really cool you, though, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep him going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really cool, love you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what does this phrase mean to you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Built on history, leaving our mark.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like, let's rewind back to where I said, like a lot of people don't know how it all is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people do and that piece of history is here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like the rest of the world will forget about this, but dear Lake will never forget about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm huge on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about it earlier.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know for live or not, but like showing up is like just show up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if I need to get anybody to get any advice at all, like I want to be this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to do that and show up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't do it from, you know, the living room.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, sometimes you can't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, I'm just like, you guys show up there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, um, I don't know, I feel like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're still building fighters here that that are that are building.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're tattooed career and trying to push to the, to the, to the limits and I'm also like helping people that really going through some tough shit and like a whole half sleeve will change their life when they walk out the door because they didn't get a little tattoo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They got a whole, whole new arm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like there's a connection between, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm like crazy bro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You need to call this Smithsonian and tell them to come grab those.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think I'm not sure if it's still there, but I read online that at one point they had a coat and like one of the packs matches or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, I wonder if they want one of these cages.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's so cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, I'm just collecting those,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I use it back to my knife handle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where is it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a little like wilderness adventure guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna finish this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Give me a high five and I'll see you when I'm done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What I'm done?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really loud.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you turn it down, I'm really really really quiet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, deal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have a, we have a simulator in the in the shop.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So when we're not tattooing, we're usually.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do you think you can drift until you get behind something that's like a thousand horse power and just even on a game You're like never mind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I shouldn't be buying stuff like We got the radar for and it was so I did go down there All right, I'll be out there minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All good, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What I was saying was I think there's a distinction or connection between fighters and and tattoo artists because when I was even making this outline for you, I was connecting those dots both require tremendous amount of repetition and discipline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I hope you see that connection too, but I want to talk about the artistry side of being a tattoo artist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What separates somebody who can tattoo from somebody who is truly an artist?

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a big beef right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a, this is, I don't know if you're, if you're bringing this out because you know this or if you're bringing this out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But this is like a honesty God 100% separation in our community.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, tell me why here because there are people who think everything is to be hand drawn that weren't like some kind of drawing contest and if that, you know, if you're, you know, um, not drawing your tattoos and you're not like a real tattoo artist or whatever and then there's people that can just tattoo and they could take a picture that they took a view after a park and tattoo it on skin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: but they can't draw off a rose.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's the other people who can take the realism photos that AI is putting them together and they're just that good at their execution that to them, application skill matters more than design origin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So like it's a giant divide in our industry is what what means more good tattoos and making money or doing your art and expressing yourself and it's like whether or not it's good or not really honestly like some of these tattoos aren't even that great but because it's like real art

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[SPEAKER_02]: It weighs more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what I mean like it has more to it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just like, I see both sides, man, because like these dudes in Miami, they might not be able to draw, but they can tattoo their asses off and then charge in three times a amount of a lot of muscle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they might be a little superstar up, but they're not slacking in the quality department when it comes to work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I just like, yeah, like, yeah, he didn't draw that, but let me see you do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I mean, because I feel it because of the AI pushing people away from like wanting to not draw everything by hand, that is become like such a battle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, everything should be your original drawing and I'm like, how the hell are you supposed to get better at anything?

45:44.726 --> 45:51.231
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if I don't try something new, then how much does like get past this plateau of like learn again anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a very big tattoo artist who's been in the scene.

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[SPEAKER_02]: very very popular like in the convention scene right and I copied one of his tattoos and I hit him up and I was like hey man what do you think about this life?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to type me this up you know and and I want to get to this point where I could try this and I could get better at this and he's like I can't believe he copied that tattoo I drew that up for somebody and that was personal for them and this and that and he called me a piece of shit and he ran me through the dirt

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[SPEAKER_01]: So stupid how am I supposed to get better at something if I don't try it if I don't know what the end result looks like then I have no idea what I'm trying towards so it's not just that I feel like when something's copied it's almost a form of a compliment you know it's like

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[SPEAKER_02]: You stole my art.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have no right to do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, but, you know, homeboy over here did it like tattoo wise.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he applied it to the skin better than news.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think you just being salty and you don't chill out before people start going through your portfolio.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's it's it's the great for five really.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How much a tattoo and's understanding people versus

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[SPEAKER_02]: understanding the people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so like I don't have any, I guess like I am building a specific style where all my tattoos kind of look like I did it, but I'll try like a lot of different styles, I don't just do traditional and just do neo traditional or just do realism, you know what I mean, just do color like a lot of so many people out there that just do fine line and stuff like that, I try to do a lot of different things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But understanding the people how we get to like the end result and what they're looking for.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like some people really do like and we'll find lines at you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some people really do like the old school stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think about that a lot, I guess it's a good question to ask somebody who just does one style.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like how do you separate that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to know if the person pretty said, but like how do you separate what you're building for that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it must, it's on image strictly because I think the person's personality is actually what creates what kind of flow you're going to build on them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like are we building like a flowy, smoky, like story up there

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ambro, I wouldn't even think to even go there mentally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to say, I'm going to explain it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do, but I wouldn't have thought that way, you know, but I don't you tell stories through through your art, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of a point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, so I think understand in the people absolutely, I mean, like, it doesn't even have to be necessarily what you're thinking of because there's so many people out there that know how to tell a story just by tattooing like the baby

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[SPEAKER_02]: And just with lettering alone, the way they build their composition, where the dark is, where the negative space is add so much feeling to it, that two different, two different attempts that both say freedom can have the totally two different fields.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Say, bro.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so true.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But same as Carter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Same as the Carter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Same as the Carter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know, I got a lot of friends with Tiguan's and we all like, well, look the same.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, most of the day, once I see our top builds, back builds, they're all tucking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My girlfriend has a towel set is tucking rotiforms right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we tried to make this one a little more aggressive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm on 20 by 10, so I'm half as wide as I'm tall.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And in and I'm on stretch tires and everything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's more of an aggressive wide build with, I think it's 22 offset.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, like I was thinking about going widebody flares like to have those out now and like almost doing like a track walk look in type of build because we have our tucked built you know what I mean, and but I really just feel out of place and everybody else is sitting there on the like frame of the ground with the wheels tucked up and I'm not like lip to the floor, you know what I mean, so

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did notice at low show this year and if you want to if you want to post a controversial hot take I don't think anybody cares about stance anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's died.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not that it's died, but oh, I think the stance game is Is more about fit me and less about stance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's more about looking a little bit tighter by being able to hold the amount of power everyone's chasing now

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[SPEAKER_02]: everyone is chasing power, um, this scene completely flipped.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It went from low and slow to chopped and loud.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now everybody's chasing noise and power.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, um, you know that for me that that's like noise and power was the 90s.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, I feel like you go back to ten, five years ago and everything was stance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I look and you get how wide can you get?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm hammering.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's the biggest size?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Really, you can fit with the small size tire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll sit up and make a look.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How low can you take a look?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now everybody has moved on because

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[SPEAKER_02]: it is become too accessible and easy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to say that either, because that would piss a lot of people off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, we went from having to fab your own control arms to everybody has two-bular control arms made for Campered setups.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you can buy the whole kit with the actual spacer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I don't really like the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, like, if you want Campered, you can do it on a weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got another question first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to ask this will might be cooler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the strangest tattoo request that you've ever had?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I posted a article video about two summers ago in Saturday, 2.7 million views about how, basically, like, you know, all I see is winding and frying on the internet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're time to ask, want to do something, you know, for whatever

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[SPEAKER_02]: That week, I had one dude come in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He wanted a sword from his armpit to his ankle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I remember telling him, like, dude, listen, most people don't sit like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You should break this up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, now I want to tell him one day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I got three graded in my pocket.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I did a sword from his ankle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And from ankle, armpit, nine hours.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it came out awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And in two days later, some dude came in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, I saw this video.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was just saying you'll do any tattoo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I pulled every shop around here, everyone just thinks I'm a creep in a weirdo, but I got my ex girlfriend's name on my, on my, on my dick and I needed, I needed to take it off like I needed to cover dude and, and I have pulled every shop and most of the shops are like all female shops now and, you know, this night and we actually had two people tattooing one of them was a girl.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was getting tattooed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, are you for real?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the guy's like, yeah, I'm for real and the girls with him and she's like, we're getting married in two days and I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I said I said, uh, this is gonna be bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I know I'm like, all right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually have him sit on the chair, wrap around his wrist like a wristwatch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is like over the summer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, yeah, easy bro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I asked for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, bro.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, I take my, like, kind of like, I put myself in other people's shoes and I'm acting like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: What were I doing in a situation like that where I made a life choice like that and everybody makes it so weird and uncomfortable sexual when it like, I promise you neither of us wanted to have sex with each other.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, hey, you know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But people made it so weird that like, that was guys in a situation that looks like a creep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know a lot of people that are like, yo, don't tattoo anybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm all tattooed on my face so that's their color.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, that's not in your business.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did, I went to Alaska,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, for a guest spot, we actually met somebody who knew somebody who owned a shop in Alaska.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was opening another shop in Michigan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so he needed people to fly out and work at his shop in Alaska until he was back from Michigan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he was offering like a place to stay all this year, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, you need to go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, 10 grand and like a week, blah blah blah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, oh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so I got to take it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got an Airbnb from first night because I didn't know who these people were.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like they were on the real or late.

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[SPEAKER_02]: like Jersey Shore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just like showing up to a house full of tattoo artists that I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to live there across the country with them for the next three weeks across the world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we get there and we got an Airbnb.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Turns out everybody's super cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The place is super cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The place everybody's staying downstairs below the shop there is like three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: apartment bedroom one bedroom efficiency type things for us to live in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We had to go to Walmart when we got there and start taking vitamin D pills immediately because people get suicidal from

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, Lack is strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Lack is strong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was only daylight for two and a half hours when I was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We were in Fairbanks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to go to Santa House.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Were you out there in like the, I guess, the proposal?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Were you out there in the wintertime?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I went out there in the summer time and there was no dark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, it was light for like 17, 18 out of Airbanks or Anchorage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anchorage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, dude, I went to an original, so I'm actually got like, I thought I was going to get stuck there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, there's no way they're going to take our plane off in this now and they.

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[SPEAKER_02]: didn't even care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We were like in a position where, oh, they probably are showing us just flying in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's just a landing on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's such a safety off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The landing on a sheer ice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a different Colorado for about nine years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I did a lot of travel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I was there and bro, I landed in some of the craziest snowy, icy, crazy storm conditions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We drove.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We drove it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: a Toro car that we got a Dodge Jeremy off a Toro and everyone's like listen to this much you're going to You're going to leave you're going to go pass notes pulled you're going to drive for an hour pass once you get out No, there's nothing there's nothing actually called dry patterns that you live in because you can't get water pipes can't get to you and stuff

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[SPEAKER_02]: little freeze.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So like there's nothing out there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you're like, dude, like, there's no cell phone service.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no GPS nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you just got to drive for an hour.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you'll show up to date that looks like you're at Jurassic Park, but it's like, I sculpture.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's Tina hospital rings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was a negative 40-out side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just kept thinking like, yeah, if we slide off the sheet of ice, while we're driving now around the woods, around the middle of the lower, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be stuck out here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Until someone else drives out here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll praise.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we made it pair.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was native 40 and the water was 100 and three or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I went swimming at negative 40 degree, whether every time I come out of the water, my nose hairs would freeze up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My eyelashes would actually freeze together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: like, that's wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's a wild, that's

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it is just a gory bloody mess, and I'm like, oh yeah, I was expecting for Santa Claus's helpers there, there's just blood everywhere is crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's actually really cool cool story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How about back to tattoos?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever done any VW art?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got a lot of like Volkswagen tattoos and like back in the day when I wasn't good at that doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you think about the Volkswagen, so it looks like a circle with another circle inside it and then a bunch of straight lines that if they're not in the right thickness and with it, so like I didn't bunch of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: back in the day that probably looked a little jacked probably like 16 years ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then as I got older, I don't do a lot of old starting tattoos and I want to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really do.

58:40.027 --> 58:43.151
[SPEAKER_02]: But I have started like tattooing people's carbs.

58:43.812 --> 58:46.015
[SPEAKER_02]: Like people come in and it all started from I did.

58:48.532 --> 59:02.638
[SPEAKER_02]: tilted the TDI, Instagram and Prater, I did his car on somebody and then somebody else came and you know, I saw you do that car, I have a memorial to all I want to get from my friend that passed away and you know Mustang, which turned into be doing a Mustang.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now I get like people from the car shows hit me up everywhere, I'm also on there like, yo, I'm going to get a hold of you, you know, I want to get a tattoo of my car.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm hoping that keeps off and I'm hoping that I can become a guy like I don't know you ever go online You said do you take pictures of your card prints mount all the pull right puts it in a fact put it on your windshield Yeah, like like I just want to be the guy that like you know, but you come to me and I tattoo your color on your like real good It's a cool last nit right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's fun

59:31.922 --> 59:34.523
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's go back to VW community a little bit.

59:34.723 --> 59:38.065
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about VW community and creative people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think attracts people to car culture?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or for Volkswagen culture?

59:44.867 --> 59:46.548
[SPEAKER_01]: How about Volkswagen culture?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause this is a VW podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Volkswagen is like a novelty.

59:51.510 --> 59:55.532
[SPEAKER_02]: I think novelty held it down for a while with the beetle and the bus.

59:56.072 --> 59:57.673
[SPEAKER_02]: And it still holds that same

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[SPEAKER_02]: wait to it.

01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:00.600
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

01:00:01.080 --> 01:00:05.621
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that it's a certain feeling having a Volkswagen because you know you have a Volkswagen.

01:00:06.662 --> 01:00:08.623
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a luxury without the price tag.

01:00:08.903 --> 01:00:12.564
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know I have people like you know they'll tell you you're just buying a logo.

01:00:12.584 --> 01:00:18.806
[SPEAKER_02]: You're just buying the the Audi logo and I'm like, yeah, you try taking that out of your pinch bolt out then.

01:00:18.846 --> 01:00:19.106
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:00:19.427 --> 01:00:22.568
[SPEAKER_02]: People like that.

01:00:23.588 --> 01:00:25.609
[SPEAKER_02]: But people like that don't understand the amount of

01:00:29.600 --> 01:00:40.663
[SPEAKER_02]: And like of eight cylinder Audi motor and the timing chains compared to an LS eight cylinder motor that is push rod and what the top does the bottom does.

01:00:42.182 --> 01:01:07.050
[SPEAKER_02]: you know what I mean like the and I feel like car people don't understand that but there is a certain difference where it feels different I don't know there's something about my newer Volkswagen that like if I get like a different newer car I'm just like I don't like this though then the dashboard feels plastic like what is this I like but uh it's a community I think it's a community and the fact that you get double of like

01:01:10.994 --> 01:01:11.154
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:01:11.174 --> 01:01:19.140
[SPEAKER_02]: You know how like the, the, the, the bliker guys, you know, the way to each other that you don't get that from anything other than the biker guys.

01:01:19.180 --> 01:01:22.503
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't, the, the hunter people don't do it, but the Volkswagen people.

01:01:22.563 --> 01:01:30.249
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't if you see another modified Volkswagen, I hang it out the window, I'm waving to them, I'm like, oh, yeah, I think we're going to another more.

01:01:30.629 --> 01:01:34.572
[SPEAKER_01]: There's another community that I know that does it and it's the chief wave.

01:01:34.852 --> 01:01:35.333
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the chief.

01:01:35.353 --> 01:01:38.015
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, yes, but that's the right.

01:01:38.095 --> 01:01:40.997
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's like that you get that nod.

01:01:41.138 --> 01:01:46.642
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when I drive, when I'm driving either, I've got a Carmen Gia and I've got a 62 beetle.

01:01:47.042 --> 01:01:53.588
[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm in either one of my classics and I'm driving up any road anywhere in my town and I see another one coming against me.

01:01:54.268 --> 01:02:01.511
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you know, we can, we can say what's up to each other and we can kind of give that nod, because we both know, yeah, we're working on one of these.

01:02:01.651 --> 01:02:12.595
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I think, first of all, quality, I really do feel like there's a German, German engineering is just a guy to me, a quality difference.

01:02:12.675 --> 01:02:17.257
[SPEAKER_02]: I was You know, I mean, and second of all, I just think like, it's a thing, man.

01:02:17.397 --> 01:02:18.258
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's really good.

01:02:18.578 --> 01:02:19.358
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's funny.

01:02:19.538 --> 01:02:20.459
[SPEAKER_02]: We were talking about like,

01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:27.461
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think that at Volkswagen's are still like considered the standard car?

01:02:27.801 --> 01:02:30.641
[SPEAKER_02]: Or do you think they've shaken out of that Volkswagen bus thing?

01:02:31.161 --> 01:02:35.342
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they're never going to shake out of that hippie vibe.

01:02:35.642 --> 01:02:38.863
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I think about the movie cars, you know?

01:02:39.303 --> 01:02:40.603
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly, bro.

01:02:40.683 --> 01:02:42.983
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they're historically known for.

01:02:43.063 --> 01:02:46.044
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like the hippie car, you know?

01:02:46.584 --> 01:02:48.564
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think they'll ever escape that.

01:02:48.685 --> 01:02:49.305
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what?

01:02:49.905 --> 01:02:51.025
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of glad they won't.

01:02:51.605 --> 01:03:11.127
[SPEAKER_02]: Like is that is that the culture that we're talking about is that like is that the love like let's not be I know it sounds so for me It sounds so yeah, but maybe maybe from back then, you know, yeah, but I don't think now like guys I just feel like the history folks writing comes from the hippie community which is a loving community.

01:03:11.327 --> 01:03:11.728
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't

01:03:12.068 --> 01:03:16.214
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we don't come from a culture with Volkswagen community.

01:03:16.674 --> 01:03:18.657
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here with it, so here's what it's about.

01:03:18.877 --> 01:03:22.782
[SPEAKER_01]: I can probably sum it up for you in a sentence, and you can tell me if you agree with this.

01:03:23.102 --> 01:03:23.583
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay.

01:03:24.024 --> 01:03:29.130
[SPEAKER_01]: I think creative people find other creative people, and I think that those types of people,

01:03:29.811 --> 01:03:41.060
[SPEAKER_01]: those types of people that are attracted to Volkswagen that are attracted to the nostalgia that are attracted to the culture that are attracted to the hippie culture slash whatever even up through guys your age.

01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:46.364
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's about creativity finding creativity and that's just that's our vibe.

01:03:47.104 --> 01:03:47.345
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:03:48.245 --> 01:03:48.485
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:03:49.626 --> 01:03:50.227
[SPEAKER_01]: You agree with that?

01:03:50.713 --> 01:03:50.913
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:03:51.354 --> 01:03:51.735
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:03:51.955 --> 01:03:52.917
[SPEAKER_01]: So let me ask you this.

01:03:53.718 --> 01:03:54.760
[SPEAKER_01]: How important is it?

01:03:54.900 --> 01:04:03.554
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it to surround yourself with people who are just obsessed with their craft as you are of

01:04:04.232 --> 01:04:08.416
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I like work on myself.

01:04:08.616 --> 01:04:09.596
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't work on myself.

01:04:09.657 --> 01:04:10.637
[SPEAKER_02]: I hire another person.

01:04:10.657 --> 01:04:14.020
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll go guess about somebody else that everybody decides to up and leave one day.

01:04:14.561 --> 01:04:17.883
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I need something to push me and drive me like in the tattoo world.

01:04:18.564 --> 01:04:23.608
[SPEAKER_02]: And in the color community, I feel like, you know, if I tell everybody this Volkswagen show, we're all going.

01:04:24.375 --> 01:04:24.956
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

01:04:24.976 --> 01:04:27.758
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if I tell them that we're all meeting up at Cabela's next weekend.

01:04:29.179 --> 01:04:31.801
[SPEAKER_02]: And they don't really know what we saw.

01:04:31.821 --> 01:04:34.003
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, man, have fun, bro.

01:04:34.163 --> 01:04:50.337
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll say, I feel like Volkswagen, though, in the newer car community, we have a lot of purest and they like things done a certain way.

01:04:50.857 --> 01:04:52.359
[SPEAKER_02]: And so maybe

01:04:55.134 --> 01:04:58.475
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like the purest, there's purest and then there's the creative people.

01:04:58.515 --> 01:05:01.176
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a little bit of, I think we have both.

01:05:01.276 --> 01:05:03.377
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we have some people that don't like to be creative.

01:05:03.397 --> 01:05:07.178
[SPEAKER_02]: That one at the way it was the way, you know, German God intended it.

01:05:07.318 --> 01:05:09.839
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm so excited to do that.

01:05:09.859 --> 01:05:10.780
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that, too.

01:05:10.940 --> 01:05:19.643
[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like even those guys, especially now, a days, they have come to allow that creative freedom.

01:05:20.323 --> 01:05:22.645
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they can have their car like that.

01:05:22.866 --> 01:05:24.127
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that vibe.

01:05:24.587 --> 01:05:26.890
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're going to be at the same car show with us.

01:05:27.534 --> 01:05:34.258
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and they're even going to look at it and be like, man, I wouldn't have done that to mine, but then that looks cool as shit, you know?

01:05:34.458 --> 01:05:44.804
[SPEAKER_02]: So we got invited to a call for me and we didn't know it was like going to turn into this and me and my girlfriend, we ended up in the table on at like a takeover, right?

01:05:45.124 --> 01:05:50.967
[SPEAKER_02]: And the whole time I'm like, everybody talks like, this is the worst thing ever, that dude's going to jail.

01:05:51.007 --> 01:05:52.648
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to race the next location.

01:05:56.372 --> 01:06:05.858
[SPEAKER_02]: Because like I can't I don't know like we would show up right and we'd park the term the other glow we'd hang out A bunch of people come telling my cars full and then the cops of shopping We're not really doing anything wrong.

01:06:05.878 --> 01:06:09.280
[SPEAKER_02]: We're just hanging out and they're like, oh, you got to go like and then we have a

01:06:10.343 --> 01:06:12.944
[SPEAKER_02]: We're like a secret conversation chat on an app.

01:06:13.445 --> 01:06:20.168
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody has it and like because I got invited to this that's how I got a group chat so I'm like looking at it and then they'll post the next location.

01:06:20.609 --> 01:06:22.910
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody holds ass in the next location.

01:06:22.930 --> 01:06:26.192
[SPEAKER_02]: They'll post up until the cops come and tell us to leave.

01:06:26.212 --> 01:06:30.714
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't arrest nobody, and then, you know, somebody will start doing it, don't I?

01:06:30.854 --> 01:06:32.675
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I'm getting a hell out of here going home.

01:06:32.715 --> 01:06:39.439
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know, just the fact they're running around town, just pushing up with everybody.

01:06:41.272 --> 01:06:42.172
[SPEAKER_02]: I see why they do it.

01:06:42.933 --> 01:06:43.793
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't gone back.

01:06:43.833 --> 01:06:44.573
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't do it.

01:06:44.593 --> 01:06:45.874
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not why we get thinned out.

01:06:45.914 --> 01:06:49.595
[SPEAKER_02]: But I showed up someone and I was like, you know what, these are just car kids.

01:06:49.835 --> 01:06:52.716
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's always the one guy that will show up and screw it up for everybody.

01:06:52.776 --> 01:06:56.778
[SPEAKER_02]: But we weren't blocking traffic or taking over an intersection.

01:06:57.298 --> 01:06:58.978
[SPEAKER_02]: It was targeted parking lot.

01:06:59.278 --> 01:07:00.019
[SPEAKER_02]: They'll survive.

01:07:00.279 --> 01:07:00.939
[SPEAKER_02]: There's two of them.

01:07:00.959 --> 01:07:03.160
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, I thought this was what it's about.

01:07:03.560 --> 01:07:05.981
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know what I mean?

01:07:06.001 --> 01:07:09.322
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, show it up and just hang it out and talk about car shit.

01:07:09.773 --> 01:07:18.099
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't own a dodge charger, but like if you want to tell me about what you tend to yours, I want to I want to see it show me, you know what I mean?

01:07:18.139 --> 01:07:21.202
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think all that stuff need.

01:07:21.522 --> 01:07:24.624
[SPEAKER_02]: My dad is a huge boat person.

01:07:24.664 --> 01:07:33.131
[SPEAKER_02]: He's he's Mercury, Honda, certified and he builds cigar boats and stuff like that and little raised jet boats and my girlfriend's dad is a huge

01:07:34.384 --> 01:07:35.465
[SPEAKER_02]: Dirt track guy.

01:07:35.966 --> 01:07:36.247
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:07:36.968 --> 01:07:39.572
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm trying to get our kids into like dirt track racing and stuff.

01:07:39.592 --> 01:07:41.135
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why we have them all the same all the time.

01:07:41.515 --> 01:07:45.902
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, man, get good and we'll go get you on the mouth, the hall cards and get you started.

01:07:45.942 --> 01:07:47.465
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, um,

01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:50.441
[SPEAKER_02]: So we get a little bit of members then.

01:07:50.701 --> 01:07:51.341
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

01:07:51.361 --> 01:07:53.002
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we get to experience all the way.

01:07:53.022 --> 01:07:55.144
[SPEAKER_02]: We go to the dirt track on the weekends.

01:07:55.364 --> 01:08:05.890
[SPEAKER_02]: We go to this thing called static nights, all the time at Maple Grove Raceway and it's like a stamp show, but they have an open drift pit.

01:08:06.988 --> 01:08:12.250
[SPEAKER_02]: As long as you qualify, like when I say the qualify, like your car will be able to like allow it on it.

01:08:13.130 --> 01:08:21.732
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever rules they have and they let people come in and drift for four hours in battle and like so we'll bring the kids and we'll get some chicken fingers and watch them drifting.

01:08:21.752 --> 01:08:33.256
[SPEAKER_02]: And then before we all go home, they'll play limbo, so they'll bust out like a limbo stick and we'll plow like 10 people inside of Jenna and still unscraping them.

01:08:33.736 --> 01:08:37.977
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll go through a play limbo and then they'll do a two-step contest at night and then we'll leave.

01:08:38.438 --> 01:08:43.199
[SPEAKER_02]: And like we regularly go to that show because it is like a mix of everybody.

01:08:43.219 --> 01:08:44.380
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's this.

01:08:45.320 --> 01:08:47.181
[SPEAKER_02]: And I need, here's my problem.

01:08:47.581 --> 01:08:57.724
[SPEAKER_02]: And you can click this because if there's people out there that run shows, okay, and you're watching this, all I can say is that like I have children, we all have children.

01:08:58.064 --> 01:08:59.745
[SPEAKER_02]: And we need shit to do with these shows.

01:09:00.627 --> 01:09:08.814
[SPEAKER_02]: I can not bring my kid and convince him to walk around and look at the same 30 cars that were at the last show we were at.

01:09:09.214 --> 01:09:10.916
[SPEAKER_02]: And I have nothing to do.

01:09:11.176 --> 01:09:15.359
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can do something something to do something to watch.

01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:16.981
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, like.

01:09:18.688 --> 01:09:20.709
[SPEAKER_02]: get some guys on bikes, you come do some wheelies.

01:09:20.869 --> 01:09:24.230
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what you got to do, but like and there's got to be stuff to do this.

01:09:24.550 --> 01:09:34.133
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's guys in the air cooled world that are doing things like matchbox car races for, you know, these kids.

01:09:34.534 --> 01:09:43.837
[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing things like they have valve covers for these old air cooled motors and you have to you have to build a car out of that cover and then you get to race it.

01:09:44.617 --> 01:09:48.840
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, there's like a champion, and then there's like there's no open.

01:09:49.180 --> 01:09:50.641
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, that's so dope.

01:09:50.881 --> 01:09:51.942
[SPEAKER_02]: Gotta be stuff to do.

01:09:52.242 --> 01:09:57.966
[SPEAKER_02]: Because like we're trying to turn these kids into car kids and we're trying to get them to love the same thing we love.

01:09:59.158 --> 01:10:00.419
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's got to be fun.

01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:05.944
[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, my key does not only go to Carson Coffee and look at a stock portion for back because I got it.

01:10:06.304 --> 01:10:06.824
[SPEAKER_01]: I got you.

01:10:06.924 --> 01:10:12.329
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, I'm gonna leave this in because I think it's good for some people to hear.

01:10:12.769 --> 01:10:18.113
[SPEAKER_01]: You're a little man, you're 30, 35, 30, you know, we got a cater to you younger guys.

01:10:18.153 --> 01:10:19.595
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys are the next generation.

01:10:19.675 --> 01:10:22.057
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I'm, I'm down with hearing that.

01:10:22.597 --> 01:10:22.937
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, man.

01:10:22.957 --> 01:10:24.878
[SPEAKER_01]: I got some rapid fire questions for you.

01:10:24.918 --> 01:10:30.421
[SPEAKER_01]: These are questions that are going to demand a fast response if a story comes of any of them.

01:10:30.461 --> 01:10:34.323
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to stop you, but just so you're aware that's supposed to be from the gut.

01:10:34.463 --> 01:10:37.465
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, all right, you ready?

01:10:37.485 --> 01:10:39.586
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, rapid fire.

01:10:39.866 --> 01:10:44.108
[SPEAKER_01]: What's one tattoo that you've always wanted to do, but you haven't had the opportunity to do yet.

01:10:44.666 --> 01:10:48.768
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I can talk a lot of people in doing a lot of different tattoos.

01:10:49.108 --> 01:10:54.191
[SPEAKER_02]: I really, I missed out on the whole like wizards and dragon things.

01:10:54.671 --> 01:11:03.995
[SPEAKER_02]: So if anybody wants like at nine knees, wizard, I came in after that, I want this to be the year while I bring wizards back.

01:11:04.916 --> 01:11:13.560
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, but I really, I get hit with a lot of different stuff is Halloween right now, so like I want to do more Halloween stuff

01:11:14.818 --> 01:11:28.163
[SPEAKER_02]: I get such a mix of everything, I don't want to keep doing the same flowers and that's why I've been trying to push myself to do different styles lately because I'm just tired of doing the same like flowers really.

01:11:28.223 --> 01:11:34.845
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a different one, different version of the question, what's one tattoo that you'll never do?

01:11:35.346 --> 01:11:36.146
[SPEAKER_01]: This comes up a lot.

01:11:38.859 --> 01:11:45.663
[SPEAKER_02]: This comes up a lot because like I'm not going to do, okay, I don't like doing gang related tattoos.

01:11:46.284 --> 01:11:51.987
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to be involved in all that, but I'll still do it if you like quiet human being that leads me to fuck a lot.

01:11:53.028 --> 01:11:55.129
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so gangs gangs.

01:11:55.270 --> 01:11:56.891
[SPEAKER_02]: I know a lot of people, okay.

01:11:56.911 --> 01:12:01.694
[SPEAKER_02]: So like a lot of people are really against like what what is somebody came in the shop and they wanted something like.

01:12:02.434 --> 01:12:28.775
[SPEAKER_02]: want to swask on their face and I'm like good they should have a swask on their face everybody knows that what that's not a person they are and then maybe people that don't want to talk to them don't have to all right you know if that guy wants to mark his face and let him let him let him do I I find people for a living and I'll tell you what if somebody had a swask on their face don't even got to read him or as they already know

01:12:31.580 --> 01:12:44.303
[SPEAKER_02]: You go, no, I'm just saying, no, like, all reality's like, I just feel like there's a lot to all, I won't do big moms name and I won't do big moms name this big, but if you want to do a big one, I'll do it, I just feel like I don't like telling people what to do with their lives.

01:12:44.383 --> 01:12:46.323
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have nothing to do with me.

01:12:46.763 --> 01:12:48.644
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll be answered the question.

01:12:48.664 --> 01:12:49.664
[SPEAKER_01]: You said gang stuff.

01:12:50.184 --> 01:12:50.544
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:12:50.824 --> 01:12:52.165
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's that's something you've never do.

01:12:52.185 --> 01:12:53.965
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, here's another one.

01:12:55.418 --> 01:12:57.239
[SPEAKER_01]: favorite VW model of all time.

01:12:57.779 --> 01:12:58.500
[SPEAKER_02]: That's orange.

01:12:59.380 --> 01:13:01.641
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like people, we don't get it here.

01:13:01.921 --> 01:13:03.142
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have the new one.

01:13:03.382 --> 01:13:05.804
[SPEAKER_02]: We only got one like for a certain couple of years.

01:13:06.384 --> 01:13:08.985
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, I don't mind.

01:13:09.005 --> 01:13:11.467
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard, it's hard because we don't get a lot of things, man.

01:13:11.627 --> 01:13:16.369
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, maybe that I really love the loophole if I got the chance to drive it.

01:13:17.210 --> 01:13:22.012
[SPEAKER_02]: I think personally that my favorite or if you said that, I'm sorry I got confused.

01:13:22.372 --> 01:13:23.193
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you're favorite.

01:13:24.148 --> 01:13:27.295
[SPEAKER_02]: My favorite, we'll probably be the Torrent, is now like an SUV guy.

01:13:27.957 --> 01:13:32.267
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think like one of the best ones is definitely Mark III, GTI.

01:13:33.183 --> 01:13:37.827
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the VR6 was one of the best out at the time.

01:13:37.967 --> 01:13:46.694
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think besides the beatle, everything during the Mark II era was kind of going downhill in the Mark III, Jetta and GTA, I really pulled the game back.

01:13:47.535 --> 01:13:54.601
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it's like a really safe Volkswagen from losing a lot that they built throughout the beatle age.

01:13:56.332 --> 01:14:06.780
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why I just, the Mark one and two, it was there, but then when the Mark three came out, I feel like the United States was starting to like pick up on like, yeah, we need more of these, you know what I mean?

01:14:07.441 --> 01:14:09.322
[SPEAKER_02]: Interesting, yeah, good perspective.

01:14:09.662 --> 01:14:19.590
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I made you wrong, but I said, hey, that's your important thing about the cool thing about this show is it's, it's your questions, it's your answers, and it's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:14:20.193 --> 01:14:21.554
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love the Mark III.

01:14:21.714 --> 01:14:23.074
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it held down.

01:14:23.134 --> 01:14:24.775
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it brought a lot of things back.

01:14:24.795 --> 01:14:27.476
[SPEAKER_02]: He's still like the Harley Quinn's and stuff we were talking about.

01:14:27.496 --> 01:14:30.378
[SPEAKER_02]: Then it became such a monumental thing.

01:14:30.498 --> 01:14:33.879
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was the start of the VR, wasn't it?

01:14:33.899 --> 01:14:37.021
[SPEAKER_02]: That thing's going down in history.

01:14:38.522 --> 01:14:39.022
[SPEAKER_02]: People will.

01:14:40.127 --> 01:14:41.888
[SPEAKER_02]: don't forget about the NBA one day.

01:14:44.189 --> 01:14:56.253
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's talk about history for a second if if if Muhammad Ali walked into home-based tattoo today, what would be one question that you would want to ask him?

01:14:56.613 --> 01:14:59.274
[SPEAKER_02]: What made you just take the gut feeling and move out here, right?

01:14:59.334 --> 01:15:00.235
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like moving out.

01:15:00.255 --> 01:15:02.475
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what changed everything for, right?

01:15:04.056 --> 01:15:05.417
[SPEAKER_02]: What made you say fuck it and

01:15:09.817 --> 01:15:11.559
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, interesting.

01:15:12.660 --> 01:15:14.942
[SPEAKER_01]: How about another question about history?

01:15:15.183 --> 01:15:21.970
[SPEAKER_01]: If you could go back in life and tattoo any person across history, who would it be?

01:15:22.510 --> 01:15:23.792
[SPEAKER_02]: Frank Dersu of something?

01:15:24.407 --> 01:15:27.748
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I would've been so cool to see my work on TV.

01:15:28.248 --> 01:15:29.648
[SPEAKER_02]: People don't watch TV now.

01:15:31.429 --> 01:15:37.350
[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like, so like, if you're not in Ink Master, like, how do you get seen to that point?

01:15:37.430 --> 01:15:42.451
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you have to do and create about yourself to get to that point if you're not on Ink Master?

01:15:42.852 --> 01:15:46.492
[SPEAKER_02]: Ink Master requires you to have no contact with your family for almost three months.

01:15:46.572 --> 01:15:47.393
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, anybody really?

01:15:47.813 --> 01:15:48.353
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I'm Bo.

01:15:49.864 --> 01:15:54.546
[SPEAKER_02]: You, like, pretty much live in a warehouse and record all day while they're nested with your mental and stuff.

01:15:54.566 --> 01:15:57.748
[SPEAKER_02]: Which I feel like I would have a little bit of fun, saucy fun with that.

01:15:57.768 --> 01:16:01.710
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know if I could just just like help and leave all my kids for three months.

01:16:01.750 --> 01:16:03.410
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the bet.

01:16:03.831 --> 01:16:04.851
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's another one for you.

01:16:04.911 --> 01:16:07.292
[SPEAKER_01]: What's one piece of advice that you would give somebody?

01:16:07.312 --> 01:16:09.233
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you said you hire a lot of people, right?

01:16:09.613 --> 01:16:13.455
[SPEAKER_01]: That are thinking about taking their passion and turning it into a career.

01:16:13.475 --> 01:16:14.976
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're very important to do it.

01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:20.224
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it's a matter of just telling people show up like you said earlier.

01:16:20.284 --> 01:16:23.227
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm okay.

01:16:23.267 --> 01:16:25.829
[SPEAKER_02]: So in our community, we have a lot of people.

01:16:26.069 --> 01:16:27.410
[SPEAKER_02]: I signed up with the tattoo.

01:16:27.871 --> 01:16:30.533
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't sign up to be a social media person.

01:16:30.833 --> 01:16:37.199
[SPEAKER_02]: And to me, I'm like, you're your own business, you're your 1099, you're a five contractor.

01:16:37.539 --> 01:16:40.782
[SPEAKER_02]: And you need to advertise yourself because Walmart's not doing it for you.

01:16:40.802 --> 01:16:42.323
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no commercials in this life.

01:16:42.801 --> 01:16:43.522
[SPEAKER_02]: in this chapter.

01:16:43.582 --> 01:16:44.142
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

01:16:44.182 --> 01:16:47.205
[SPEAKER_02]: So like you have to sell your own ass.

01:16:47.665 --> 01:16:48.426
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?

01:16:48.466 --> 01:16:51.568
[SPEAKER_02]: Like social media is just a part of it.

01:16:51.588 --> 01:16:53.790
[SPEAKER_02]: Back in the day, we used to have to go hang up business cards.

01:16:53.830 --> 01:16:56.913
[SPEAKER_02]: And now you can just sit on your couch and say the same exact thing.

01:16:57.233 --> 01:16:57.994
[SPEAKER_02]: My name is this.

01:16:58.374 --> 01:16:58.975
[SPEAKER_02]: I work here.

01:16:58.995 --> 01:16:59.855
[SPEAKER_02]: I do that.

01:16:59.875 --> 01:17:01.256
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what you're going to do.

01:17:01.317 --> 01:17:02.498
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no dancing involved.

01:17:03.118 --> 01:17:04.019
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't even start.

01:17:04.059 --> 01:17:04.779
[SPEAKER_02]: I do tattoos.

01:17:04.839 --> 01:17:07.482
[SPEAKER_02]: I live in Orangeburg and I tattoo at a home base tattoo.

01:17:07.602 --> 01:17:08.543
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's a business card.

01:17:08.903 --> 01:17:09.744
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's all you have to say.

01:17:10.717 --> 01:17:13.979
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and people are scared to do that and and and it's holding them back.

01:17:14.140 --> 01:17:18.022
[SPEAKER_02]: And I would say like just show up and tell everybody what you do.

01:17:18.422 --> 01:17:19.363
[SPEAKER_02]: And people will eat it up.

01:17:19.403 --> 01:17:21.645
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you don't tell anybody, no, you'll ever know, man.

01:17:22.525 --> 01:17:23.406
[SPEAKER_02]: I like it.

01:17:23.506 --> 01:17:24.747
[SPEAKER_01]: We, yeah, show up again.

01:17:24.767 --> 01:17:33.553
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, where where can people find you if they want to follow your journey, your VW journey or some of your art, some of the stuff that we do.

01:17:39.742 --> 01:18:02.866
[SPEAKER_02]: um Instagram is Scotty underscore underscore morgan and then um TikTok is who is Scotty morgan Okay, and there are there are fix I have I have a couple people pretending to be me And what they do is they message people that comment on my stuff and they go hey when you want to get that tattoo art will I could set you up right now

01:18:03.286 --> 01:18:07.427
[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of times when pisses me off is they're telling these people have to price out of drugs themselves.

01:18:07.447 --> 01:18:09.228
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's another thing.

01:18:09.308 --> 01:18:10.768
[SPEAKER_01]: Send me a deposit on lock-in.

01:18:10.788 --> 01:18:13.909
[SPEAKER_02]: We're sending them deposits and they're stealing my clients' money.

01:18:13.989 --> 01:18:15.850
[SPEAKER_02]: And in every once in all, I have someone hit me out.

01:18:15.890 --> 01:18:16.930
[SPEAKER_02]: Or just shock this up.

01:18:17.210 --> 01:18:18.971
[SPEAKER_02]: And it'd be like, oh, I already paid you for this.

01:18:19.011 --> 01:18:22.132
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I don't know who you paid.

01:18:22.572 --> 01:18:23.772
[SPEAKER_02]: But it made some money.

01:18:24.193 --> 01:18:25.073
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, why?

01:18:25.273 --> 01:18:26.013
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?

01:18:26.953 --> 01:18:27.974
[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy, man.

01:18:28.014 --> 01:18:29.694
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the technology, though.

01:18:30.134 --> 01:18:31.295
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't you have a website, too?

01:18:32.246 --> 01:18:34.467
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, uh, home base tattoo.com.

01:18:34.767 --> 01:18:35.047
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:18:35.607 --> 01:18:35.928
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:18:35.968 --> 01:18:36.508
[SPEAKER_01]: Last question.

01:18:36.548 --> 01:18:37.208
[SPEAKER_01]: I got for you.

01:18:38.289 --> 01:18:43.691
[SPEAKER_01]: When somebody hears the name home base tattoo, what's the first thing that you want them to remember?

01:18:44.171 --> 01:18:45.051
[SPEAKER_02]: This little family.

01:18:45.071 --> 01:18:47.712
[SPEAKER_02]: I just had John little family man.

01:18:48.193 --> 01:18:50.474
[SPEAKER_02]: We, uh, we have a solid crew.

01:18:51.394 --> 01:18:53.915
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, we're like one giant family.

01:18:54.720 --> 01:19:00.661
[SPEAKER_02]: We travel together, we do birthday parties here together, we eat together, we don't compete against each other.

01:19:02.602 --> 01:19:03.862
[SPEAKER_02]: And everybody wins.

01:19:04.642 --> 01:19:10.184
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, I mean, we're all in each other's list, in case we have to pick each other's kids up from school.

01:19:10.204 --> 01:19:11.744
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, there's no room for slacking.

01:19:12.404 --> 01:19:20.266
[SPEAKER_02]: We are a fan one here and we won a person slacking can actually screw up the whole ecosystem.

01:19:20.486 --> 01:19:22.267
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just like we take pride in

01:19:23.069 --> 01:19:26.633
[SPEAKER_02]: and being the family at the compound, yeah.

01:19:26.853 --> 01:19:30.117
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's a wrap for this episode of Dub Life Diaries.

01:19:30.718 --> 01:19:36.264
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01:19:42.972 --> 01:19:46.553
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01:19:47.053 --> 01:19:47.393
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01:19:51.954 --> 01:19:53.254
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01:19:53.494 --> 01:19:54.394
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01:19:54.814 --> 01:19:57.335
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01:19:57.815 --> 01:20:03.556
[SPEAKER_01]: Until next time, keep the engine tummin and the wheels turn in and always follow the road that inspires you.

01:20:03.936 --> 01:20:05.016
[SPEAKER_01]: This is Joe Person.

01:20:05.176 --> 01:20:06.017
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm signing off.

01:20:06.277 --> 01:20:08.117
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll catch you on the next ride.