Eliot Vancil | Rare Volkswagens, Historic Cars & the Stories Behind the Collection Ep81

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[UNKNOWN]: I am so excited for this one.

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[UNKNOWN]: You guys, what if I told you that there is a guy in Texas with more than a hundred volts wagons?

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[UNKNOWN]: And some of them are absolutely so rare that there's probably more people alive who've walked on the moon than have actually own one.

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[UNKNOWN]: We're talking about a 1942 swim wagon, a 1949 headmueler, split window beetles, barn doors, rare guise, a Swiss fraetalin, which for those of you that probably already know is the mail truck, and some of the most historically significant Volkswagen's that you will ever see.

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[UNKNOWN]: But the cars might actually be the least interesting part of this story because this guy has literally flown across the world with a suitcase full of cash to buy Volkswagen's before somebody else could get their first.

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[UNKNOWN]: He's once driven a 40-year-old Swiss postal band 1800 miles across Europe without even knowing if this thing was going to make it.

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[UNKNOWN]: He chased the 1951 split window beetle 3000 miles through seven states in two days.

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[UNKNOWN]: When he couldn't afford this, or couldn't afford to close the deal mind you, on one of the rarest Volkswagen's on earth, another collector stepped in, wired the money, and bought the car for him.

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[UNKNOWN]: Come on, man.

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[UNKNOWN]: Basically said, look, just pay me when you're ready.

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[UNKNOWN]: That car turned out to be the headmueler number three, eight, seven.

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[UNKNOWN]: The car whose identity had been lost for decades.

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[UNKNOWN]: And somehow, this all started with just a teenage kid sitting on milk crates in a 1966 beetle.

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[UNKNOWN]: His wife calls this his dirty little secret.

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[UNKNOWN]: What a wonderful addiction guy.

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[UNKNOWN]: He just walked me around just one of his shops and I am just my jaws just soar from being have me having to pick it up off the desk.

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[UNKNOWN]: This is going to be one hell of a Volkswagen story.

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[UNKNOWN]: Today on Dublife Diaries, we're diving deep into the mind behind one of the greatest private VW collections in the world.

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[UNKNOWN]: I've got Elliott Vancell, the chief hoarder in charge, sir.

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[UNKNOWN]: All right, so let's let's dive into you cool.

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[UNKNOWN]: What's that?

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah

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[UNKNOWN]: All right, so man, more than a hundred Volkswagen's, including some of the rarest ones on the planet.

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[UNKNOWN]: At what point in your life, did I guess collecting stop becoming a hobby and start becoming your dirty little secret?

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[UNKNOWN]: You're your legitimate problem.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: I think I realized that I was a horror.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's probably been 15 years ago.

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[UNKNOWN]: I just I get them.

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[UNKNOWN]: I have a connection to every one of them.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I just can't imagine, you know, parting, you know, with that thing.

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[UNKNOWN]: And it's usually revolves around the story, right, the chase of the app.

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[UNKNOWN]: a vehicle is where most of it lies with me, but but I've been in it a long time, like most all of you, you know, your subscribers, I'm sure I started out, you know, my parents tell stories of they couldn't get me to go to sleep unless they drove me around the block and I've been an old, you know, also I can be at all.

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[UNKNOWN]: My dad's older brother got us into this hobby.

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[UNKNOWN]: His name is Bobby Vansal and he's that he's an outlaw.

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[UNKNOWN]: If you know Vansals, my mom's side, they're all the proper side of the family and my dad's side are all the outlaws.

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[UNKNOWN]: And when I say outlaws, he was from Oak Cliff.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's where that's where our hood is.

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[UNKNOWN]: And that's the rough part of Dallas, and it always has been, and he was still in Volkswagen and Porsche's back in them.

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[UNKNOWN]: We're talking like in the late 60s, early 70s, and chopping them up, and he was running this hole like, you know, gone in 60 seconds, kind of, but you're kind of seeing that here.

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[UNKNOWN]: And he got picked up.

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[UNKNOWN]: And the judge told him you wouldn't get away with this nowadays, but the judge told him you got two options.

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[UNKNOWN]: You go to Huntsville, and that's where you live from here on, or you can leave the state of Texas and never come back.

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[UNKNOWN]: And he moved to Oregon, and I only met him twice in my life.

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[UNKNOWN]: And that's where the, that's where the Volkswagen like gene comes from in our family.

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[UNKNOWN]: It runs deep.

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[UNKNOWN]: All my uncles are into it.

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[UNKNOWN]: my dad's into them, we're able to share that with each other.

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[UNKNOWN]: And it's just, man, I can't tell you, like VW trends, you know what I mean?

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[UNKNOWN]: Sitting in my bedroom, late at night, you know what I mean?

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[UNKNOWN]: Just going going, you know, it was just part of my childhood.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so I've been doing it a long time.

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[UNKNOWN]: In the collection, is there one car or a couple cars?

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[UNKNOWN]: Maybe, let's say just one, is there one that you would grab?

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[UNKNOWN]: If somebody said, hey, man, build a zone fire, you got five minutes.

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, what cars would it be?

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[UNKNOWN]: You know what's funny, man, is I've got an old...

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[UNKNOWN]: I've got an old 23 window bus since a Wolfsburg edition.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's 55.

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[UNKNOWN]: And it's a patina, a ratty little thing, Nate with us.

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[UNKNOWN]: It wagons, buses out there.

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[UNKNOWN]: He got built all the bus suspension.

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[UNKNOWN]: I got it from him.

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[UNKNOWN]: And we've just had so many memories in that old bus and going to car shows and hanging out the sun roof as we do like the little cruises around the downtown.

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[UNKNOWN]: I think that that would probably be

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[UNKNOWN]: the one that I would grab for sure.

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[UNKNOWN]: Wow.

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[UNKNOWN]: So cool, man.

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[UNKNOWN]: And you mentioned something a second ago about how your parents or your dad used to drive you around in a beetle to get you to go to sleep.

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[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, that's almost like, you know, your, your brain was basically programmed for these cars before as a, as a person before you even really knew what Volkswagen was, yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: 100%.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, mills and all the things they would bring their cool Volkswagen's my mouthful for Morgan Bobby.

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[UNKNOWN]: He drove a 59 convertible carming gear on 8 spoke MPs and he had a little 1776.

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[UNKNOWN]: He did build all the way down from Morgan.

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[UNKNOWN]: Which you view, that's a long way, a long, long way.

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[UNKNOWN]: But that's where, you know, it came from.

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[UNKNOWN]: And just every one of my uncles was into it and and I knew you just

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[UNKNOWN]: in bread maybe is is the right word right but it was it should have been deep in my soul for for years and years.

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[UNKNOWN]: So 15 you were 15 when you bought a 66 beetle from your Uncle Scotty right?

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Tell me about that car when you bought it.

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[UNKNOWN]: What did it look like?

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[UNKNOWN]: Tell maybe just describe it if you can.

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[UNKNOWN]: This thing had a auto zone pop-up sunrise, you know, the 80's style, but it was glass sunrise.

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[UNKNOWN]: It was slammed, had a pretty nasty little rake on it.

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[UNKNOWN]: Eight spoke can't be, it was orange.

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[UNKNOWN]: It had a primer red door, a white door on the other side.

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[UNKNOWN]: I had a deck limb with standoffs with a nasty little steamer hanging out of the back.

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[UNKNOWN]: I took a girl to, it didn't have an interior.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so I had milk crates in there.

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[UNKNOWN]: I took a little girl to prom in it one year.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I'll never forget, I couldn't get the driver door open.

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[UNKNOWN]: So she had to walk around this little beetle.

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[UNKNOWN]: She tripped on the steamer, emelted her hose, her legs.

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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, come on, man.

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[UNKNOWN]: to let me out of the beetle man.

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[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, that was my first one.

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[UNKNOWN]: And man back there, I didn't have two, you know, I didn't have two nipples to rub together.

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[UNKNOWN]: So I didn't have a battery, he could afford a battery.

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[UNKNOWN]: So he got pushed started everywhere we went, you know, and do that car.

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[UNKNOWN]: My dad got in at one time.

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[UNKNOWN]: He's like, dude, you don't have any brakes.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, dude, you don't need breaks.

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[UNKNOWN]: You just need, you need speed that I got to, I got to get this, you know, it's Holly Bugsbury Carberator for it, you know, and, yeah, that was my baby, man.

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[UNKNOWN]: And, sadly, when I went away to college, I had a guy that was gonna paint it, not even had any money to paint a car back then.

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[UNKNOWN]: So, it was in a shady little shop, and the guy went out of business and disappeared with my car.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, it was lost, lost forever, you know, kind of a thing, but yeah, that was my first, my first real.

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[UNKNOWN]: I used to pull the engine out every weekend and just cry along the tens all fresh, man.

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[UNKNOWN]: So that's a good at the car shell, you know, but those those were the days, man.

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[UNKNOWN]: That happens, you lose that car.

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[UNKNOWN]: You kind of maybe grow up.

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[UNKNOWN]: I know you said earlier that you had gone to college.

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[UNKNOWN]: So you eventually end up getting into business.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I think we're going to have been back at your story.

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[UNKNOWN]: You spend about 10 years being an entrepreneur building businesses.

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[UNKNOWN]: And instead of working on Volkswagen's or even building that collection, what were you doing during those years?

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I lost connection with Volkswagen's.

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[UNKNOWN]: When I went to college, I was driving a Volkswagen Soraka with my first water cooled car, Volkswagen, and I drove that for a few years, but it just really kind of crushed me, honestly, whenever I lost that car, I didn't have any money to replace it.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I just kind of, you know, I just lost the interest, I met my wife, we got married.

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[UNKNOWN]: started a couple of businesses, and it probably was about 10 years whenever I got to a place where we were stable again, we had the necessities and all of a sudden stumbled across another little 64 beetle that was just sitting for selling somebody's driveway, and I bought that car and that's what kicked off.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, this sickness that you see behind me is, uh, is that one little 64 and, uh, we tore it apart and, and, uh, rebuilt it.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's funny.

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[UNKNOWN]: We rebuilt it and that we gave it away at DuPseflash one year.

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[UNKNOWN]: We ruffled it off at DuPseflash.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so, but yeah, getting back into it, I was, you know, just, if you've ever started up business, you really don't.

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[UNKNOWN]: There's no oxygen to do anything else other than.

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[UNKNOWN]: focus on staying alive and keeping the business going and all the things.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so when I finally got that back kind of stable, you know, it afforded me an income to be able to start doing this again.

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[UNKNOWN]: And um,

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[UNKNOWN]: And I had the time as well, you know, to be able to get away from the businesses and really be involved in the Texas scene and probably the California scene.

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[UNKNOWN]: I got really involved out there as well.

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[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, it's been all downhill from there, like just one after the other.

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[UNKNOWN]: So the 64 got you back into it and then in the storyline that led you to a 55 Beetle was at the one from Allen.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: So that was probably probably three or four cars in.

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[UNKNOWN]: And man, I'll tell you what happened is I went to California one year out there to the

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[UNKNOWN]: way different VW scene, then we had going on in Texas at that time.

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[UNKNOWN]: And that's sort of being introduced to what what really nice cars look like and that's where I saw my first buddy hell car out there, if you know who he is from top one restaurant, he's kind of the

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[UNKNOWN]: The cover does all the cover coverage and all that kind of stuff.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so I really ignited a fire in me when I've gone out there and seen that.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I can't remember exactly how I found Allen's car.

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[UNKNOWN]: But he was out there, real close to Hollywood.

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[UNKNOWN]: I can't remember exactly where he's at there.

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[UNKNOWN]: He had a 55-3-fold route top with ribbed ors and just really, really, really, really nice you know, sitting on thugs and just a beautiful little car.

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[UNKNOWN]: That was the first real car probably that I ever had.

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[UNKNOWN]: valuable car, you know, being built, built to the mines, you know, 2332, you know, big motor in the back and in the Dave Lumaida interior, like you, it was, it checked all the boxes for sure back then.

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[UNKNOWN]: I missed that car.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's one that I.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's one that I'll let out of my hands and Alan sold it.

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[UNKNOWN]: I think that cars down in Brazil now.

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[UNKNOWN]: But it sold, I'm bringing a trailer.

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[UNKNOWN]: I think this last year and blows my mind.

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[UNKNOWN]: I've got about it for like a hundred grand or something.

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[UNKNOWN]: The most I've ever seen, I've also like, well, I say, I've also like a normal, I've also like and go for, you know, but yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's where I got that car and then I took that car and I'd seen Buddy Hills cars.

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[UNKNOWN]: Have you ever met Buddy Hell or do you know who he is?

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[UNKNOWN]: I've never met him.

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[UNKNOWN]: So he's in Tempe, Arizona and he is, man, if you've ever seen a car built by Buddy Hell, like their next level, like the Grand National Roadster show, you know what that is, that's where

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[UNKNOWN]: Like the schlaner, I think I'm saying it, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: But the schlaner girl or something like that is like the highest, like a word that they'll give to a non-roader buddy hill one that this year.

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[UNKNOWN]: And that's like of all, like we're talking all the chips, juices, and just all of their ring brothers, and just all those guys, a buddy one that this year to tell you what kind of work this guy does.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so yeah, so I took Allen's car.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I found Buddy Hill and I built two cars early on with Buddy Hill.

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[UNKNOWN]: I built a 64 CFIA round convertible and I built Allen's, I read it.

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[UNKNOWN]: Allen's car was already nice and I took and I read it with Buddy Hill.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so that's when I really started getting into like show cars and like, you know, like Hot BW's cover cars and all that kind of stuff and, you know, and that was a phase for a while.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I still have a lot of the show cars and I enjoy probably enjoy the custom cars more.

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[UNKNOWN]: I enjoy building them more.

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[UNKNOWN]: But the older I've gotten in my, in my taste, you know,

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[UNKNOWN]: you know, real collectible Volkswagen's and original, you know, cars.

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[UNKNOWN]: And that's, you know, I have a real value for that today.

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[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, those were the early days.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's actually a question that I've got for you.

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[UNKNOWN]: It was, it was at what point did you, I guess, stop.

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[UNKNOWN]: uh, looking for cars that you personally wanted and start trying to think, you know, hey, this I actually want an example of of this particular Volkswagen instead.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so you, you mentioned in your introduction, the Frithland.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yes.

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[UNKNOWN]: In the Frithland, it was just, I like odd cars more than anything.

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[UNKNOWN]: Like I just like odd cars that nobody knows what they are, you know, the main that uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh

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[UNKNOWN]: you know, everywhere.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I've been looking, I've been two or three years.

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[UNKNOWN]: My routine was I'd get up in the morning, I'd pull the samba, I'd go out on eBay, do all my little checks to see what was for sale, and low and behold, I'll never forget it was a money morning and drinking my coffee, and I find this ridlin.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I'll look at this thing and I'm like, well, where is this thing?

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[UNKNOWN]: are all you, argue, where the hell's prong you?

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[UNKNOWN]: Holy crap, that's a Czech Republic.

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[UNKNOWN]: And this car was in the Czech Republic, and it was a Swiss-Friendland, which for those of you that don't know, Brillins are already weird, but the German ones don't have corner glass, and the Swiss ones have corner glass, and a little pop up for a share of it, and things like this.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so I'm looking at this thing, and I'm like, I'm in, I wonder if this thing's real.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so I called the guy and lo and behold he speaks English and it's funny he actually was the producer of the check has talent TV show out there and so And so I called this guy and I'm like hey man, like I'd like to see more photographs of this thing because he had really bad photos of this thing.

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[UNKNOWN]: And he's like, man, the things that are in our homestead like like 26 miles from here, I can't get you any pictures.

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[UNKNOWN]: I was like, dude, I drive 26 miles to work every day.

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[UNKNOWN]: What are you talking about?

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[UNKNOWN]: And, and, but over there, they don't drive like we drive here.

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[UNKNOWN]: And, and so I called out Randy Carlson, old bug, um, sure you, you know, who he is.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I asked Randy, I was like, have you, Randy's

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[UNKNOWN]: I called him and I asked him, I said, hey, Randy, you think this car is real?

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[UNKNOWN]: He goes, man, the checker public, he goes, man, you're probably getting scammed.

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[UNKNOWN]: That things probably not a real car.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so I call the guy back and I'm like, hey, man, I want to buy this car.

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[UNKNOWN]: But I need some pictures to show that it's real deal.

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[UNKNOWN]: And he felt he's not going to get him and he's got a guy that's coming up from, I think, like, Austria or somewhere like that to buy that weekend.

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[UNKNOWN]: And it's saying he was asking 30 grand for it back then, like, just so you can understand, you know, the dollars that we're dealing with.

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[UNKNOWN]: And this is back in, like, 2014 or something.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's not a small amount of money.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so,

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[UNKNOWN]: And so I'm like, I'm like, all right, so if I can get there before that guy, will you sell it to me?

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[UNKNOWN]: He's like, yeah, he ever's here with the money first.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so I called my bank and my bank was like, dude, we can't do a wire because you have to involve intermediary banks and a wire transfer wasn't going to get to him fast enough.

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[UNKNOWN]: So I called him back and I said, hey, dude, will you take US dollars and he's like, yeah, I'll take US dollars.

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[UNKNOWN]: and he's from Ukraine.

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[UNKNOWN]: He's first generation, you know, and he's the only guy that I knew that was even close to, you know, to be in that part of the world.

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[UNKNOWN]: He's like 21, he might have been 24 with this time.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I call them up and I said, hey, constantly you ever, you ever been to the chat, probably, you know, Prague.

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[UNKNOWN]: He's like, now, he's on my bucket list.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, you want to go Wednesday?

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[UNKNOWN]: He was like, are you shit me dude?

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[UNKNOWN]: And, and so,

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[UNKNOWN]: my wife you have to know my wife to understand this, but I don't tell her that I'm going to leave the country to like do my crazy crazy nonsense.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so I tell her that I'm going to I call her up, and I said, hey, we were thinking about taking that cruise.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I need, you know, our passport is still good.

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[UNKNOWN]: I need to, I didn't know if I had a passport that was still in data, whatever.

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[UNKNOWN]: And that's because yeah, they're still good.

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[UNKNOWN]: I was like, I might be in Houston on some business.

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[UNKNOWN]: I had an office down there at the time.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so long story short, I grabbed the passport, me in Constantine, we go and we leave out of Houston, and we land in Paris, France on Thursday morning.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I checked in on Facebook, this is 2014.

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[UNKNOWN]: And my wife sees that I'm in Paris, France, and she's like, you better be in Paris, Texas.

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[UNKNOWN]: And she's like, oh, I'm doing this dude.

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[UNKNOWN]: What are you doing?

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[UNKNOWN]: And so then we puddle jump from Paris over to Prague on one of these little, you know, little bit of airplanes.

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[UNKNOWN]: And dude, I'm just telling you, man, like back then, I don't know how it is today.

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[UNKNOWN]: But if you wanted to like be a terrorist, like that's the airport to do it in Prague.

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[UNKNOWN]: Do the guard.

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[UNKNOWN]: The guards sitting there asleep, you don't even like, and so I don't know if this guy's going to take us out in a field and, you know, be this and steal our money or what he's going to do.

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[UNKNOWN]: And but we see him and I recognize him and I'm like, all right, he's not that big.

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[UNKNOWN]: I think we could take him.

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[UNKNOWN]: If we needed to.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so we go get me in constant going get the back of his of his agenda.

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[UNKNOWN]: And he drives us and have you ever been over there.

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[UNKNOWN]: Not to worry you're describing I've been to I've been to Amsterdam.

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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

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[UNKNOWN]: I've been to that area.

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[UNKNOWN]: This is way different.

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[UNKNOWN]: This is, and this is not, this is not like old historic Prague yet.

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[UNKNOWN]: Like we're just, you know, we're going through all the apartment complexes and high rises and stuff.

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[UNKNOWN]: Dude, it's eastern block, man.

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[UNKNOWN]: Like it's little old ladies with headscarf, like pushing grocery cards that I'm like, dude, this is a trip.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, like, we're in Prague, man.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so he pulls up to this big apartment complex.

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[UNKNOWN]: And it's got a, an underground parking

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, this is this is where we die here.

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[UNKNOWN]: He's going to take us in here.

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[UNKNOWN]: They're going to there going to be dudes in here waiting on us and they're going to kill us take all of money, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: How much money do you have on you just for the.

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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, this tells you how dumb we are.

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[UNKNOWN]: You're not supposed to travel with more than 10 grand, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: Right.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so we had 30 grand and I gave 15 to Constantine and I'm holding 15.

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[UNKNOWN]: So both of us are illegal at this point.

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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, I don't know how that logic made any sense back then, but we've got 30 grand, you know, probably a little more actually, because we probably had some, you know, some running money, but but the garage door opens and low in behold, there's hardly any cars in this underground parking garage and there's a ridlin.

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[UNKNOWN]: sitting over in the corner.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, dude, we didn't know this thing ran.

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[UNKNOWN]: He said it ran, but he said he hadn't driven it in a while.

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[UNKNOWN]: He was going to go throw a battery at it.

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[UNKNOWN]: We didn't know anything about this thing.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so the day before we left, like we found, we found a part house.

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[UNKNOWN]: And we dropped ship like points and condenser and like car rear rebuild kid.

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[UNKNOWN]: and oil and all this kind of stuff.

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[UNKNOWN]: We dropped, we dropped, shipped it to his address, and like tools, we didn't have tools, so we had to drop ship all this stuff to his place.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so we go in and let alone behold, I'm looking at this ridlin.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I cannot believe, I'm sitting here looking at its ridlin.

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[UNKNOWN]: And at that time, the garage door opens again.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I'll have said a seven series, made with a bunch of Eastern promises looking dangsters to roll in in the seven series, man.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I looked at Constantine's, I thought we were going to die while I go, this is when we die right here.

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[UNKNOWN]: And they just looked at us and they drove by.

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[UNKNOWN]: And 10 minutes later, we have the Fridland out.

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[UNKNOWN]: We're counting down the cash in the back of the Fridland.

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[UNKNOWN]: And we've got the keys in like, we're in the middle of like the Czech Republic with no plan, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: Like we just plan was other like, what, how do you get that car out of that country?

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[UNKNOWN]: Like dude.

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[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, so we had to start figuring it out, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: And so this thing used about.

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[UNKNOWN]: It used about a court of oil a day, and so we landed, just to give you a frame of reference, we landed in Paris on Thursday, we got up Friday morning and we're like, man, dude, we're in Prague, man, like we can't just leave and so we did a quick little tour.

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[UNKNOWN]: a prog, like on the segues, you remember those things?

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: And in cartoons all, yeah, he's all looking cool.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, I look like, I look like Shrek, you know what I mean?

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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so, I don't look, but anyway, we did a quick term, a prog.

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[UNKNOWN]: We got this for Atlanta and we broke out Saturday morning.

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[UNKNOWN]: and we went to Stuttgart and we went to the Mercedes Museum, which is amazing.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's like this high-rise tower and it's like a spiral staircase and you're just your viewing the museum as you go down this ramp.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so we ran through that Saturday morning.

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, number one, from Prague to Stuttgart, it's pretty far and we drove that thing on the Autobahn and it was right me in the entire time

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[UNKNOWN]: in this thing, and so the whole pan's full of water, and we're driving this thing.

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[UNKNOWN]: And top speeds are like 55, 60, and there's like outing blowing passes going 100 miles an hour on the auto-bomb.

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[UNKNOWN]: And then it was, it's a little bit on this thing.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're on the autobahn and so what a lot of people don't understand over in Germany is like their entire like we're the interstate system here in the States, the interstate system over there is the autobahn so anytime you're on a highway you're on the autobahn and but we went to the Mercedes museum ran through that went to the Porsche museum ran through that drove all night long to get to get to Wolfsburg.

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[UNKNOWN]: And then we ran through the Volkswagen Museum, like the old school where they've got all the old stuff.

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[UNKNOWN]: We took pictures of the Friiddland.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to send you this picture, so you can slice it in here.

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[UNKNOWN]: But we took pictures of the Friiddland in front of the Volkswagen Factory Smoke Stacks, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: And then we drove it to Hamburg.

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[UNKNOWN]: We ran through the, it's called the prototype museum highly recommended, ran through that, and then I get a call from a guy named John Deachman.

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[UNKNOWN]: And he's a Texas guy here, been in the scene longer than anybody.

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[UNKNOWN]: And he's responsible for most of the buses and the drug cars that are in England and Germany now.

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[UNKNOWN]: He finds these things in the middle of the desert, Texas.

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[UNKNOWN]: He finds him in the middle of the desert.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, and and Phoenix or wherever.

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[UNKNOWN]: He puts him in containers and sends him over to, you know, a lot of people probably hate him for that, but he knows everybody over there because of that.

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[UNKNOWN]: So John calls me, is that, hey, man, are you guys driving afordlin across Germany?

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we are.

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[UNKNOWN]: He's like, dude, you don't like all over the internet.

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[UNKNOWN]: Like all my German buddies are like, all of a sudden that's me.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, who these crazy Texans are driving driving across Germany?

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[UNKNOWN]: He's driving across Germany.

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[UNKNOWN]: And he's like a Christian Grumman, which I didn't know who he was at the time, Christian Grumman's like the most important person in my opinion, the most important person in Paul Twigens, like he is, you know, he's got the most historically relevant collection that I've ever seen.

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[UNKNOWN]: And just he's, he's that man.

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[UNKNOWN]: So he called me, he's like Christian wants to meet you guys.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, boom, Simia's address.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so we drive this Fridolin,

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[UNKNOWN]: Um, we tried to get into, we wanted to go to Amsterdam, but they were having the G7 summit, there or something.

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[UNKNOWN]: So they turned us away at the border.

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[UNKNOWN]: We, we finally get to his place in Hesse, Joldendorf.

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[UNKNOWN]: And that's where you asked like, how I got into the, you know, into the game of, you know, of the really historically relevant, like the bull cars.

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[UNKNOWN]: Right.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's the first time I'd ever seen dude.

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[UNKNOWN]: I literally walked into his museum, which is a fraction of what it is today.

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[UNKNOWN]: I walked in here to see them and like, dude, I'm looking at dinzels.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm looking at Dan and Howard and Stas.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm looking at the original prototype Schwimwagen.

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[UNKNOWN]: Not just a Schwimwagen, the prototype Schwimwagen.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm looking at rollback.

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[UNKNOWN]: like Sunruth, like split window beetles.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm looking at prototype, Kuba wagons.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm looking at the, I mean, dude, just he's got the most insane collection.

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[UNKNOWN]: Heb Mueller's a heb Mueller's like, you know, just over in a corner kind of thing.

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[UNKNOWN]: It tells you like, what we're dealing with here.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so,

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[UNKNOWN]: what I walked in to his collection, that's when everything changed for me, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: Up to that point it had all been just hot VW's cars and slam them, put them on thugs, you know, put a big motor in the back and and I still love those cars today and I probably probably have more fun in those cars today but, but

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[UNKNOWN]: When I walked out of his collection, I was like, all right, things have got to change for me.

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[UNKNOWN]: Like, I've got to really start.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm a businessman also, and I feel bad about the money that I spend on my hobby.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure you do too, too.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's kind of like, how do I justify this?

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[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?

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[UNKNOWN]: If I died, my wife got stuck with all this junk.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so like, all right, if I'm going to do it, I really need to start investing in some historically relevant cars.

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[UNKNOWN]: that will hold the investment, that will be valuable, you know, to mean down the road.

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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, don't give me wrong.

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[UNKNOWN]: I love my 64 convertible.

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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think it's a great car or fun car to drive.

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[UNKNOWN]: And it's won a lot of awards and been on all the magazine covers.

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[UNKNOWN]: But, but man, when I walked out of there, I was like, all right, I gotta start, I gotta start doing this different.

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[UNKNOWN]: And not I'm gonna be honest with you.

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[UNKNOWN]: I thought I was kind of a big deal when I walked into his place.

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[UNKNOWN]: He put me in my place.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, okay.

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[UNKNOWN]: I ain't got nothing going on this guy's got it going on and so long story short we got there on Thursday we were back in the States by Tuesday morning and that thing was in a container on a boat and it arrived here probably four weeks later.

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[UNKNOWN]: the Fredland did.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so that was my transition from, from building the showcars and building the, you know, the just nicer than they were originally cars into the headmuleers, the Dan and Hours, the Schwim Wagner and just these insane, you know, cars that I'm lucky to have today.

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[UNKNOWN]: Do you know a guy named Victor Ma?

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know that name.

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[UNKNOWN]: I sure do.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I can't.

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[UNKNOWN]: He's the right now, but he's the four by four expert out of a.

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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, he's got he's got two.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, the four by four beetles that one of them belong to to Hitler.

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[UNKNOWN]: Mike the KDF cars right like the old.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm still trying to get my hands on on on on a good on a KDF car.

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[UNKNOWN]: I've got a fun story.

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[UNKNOWN]: When it comes to that kind of stuff, man.

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[UNKNOWN]: I had him on the podcast because of the significance of the four of the four by four beetle.

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[UNKNOWN]: And yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: the language barrier was uh if you go back to like the maybe like episode 20 or even less uh you'll you'll find his episode Victor Maz episode um uh yeah I've heard of him I've heard of him he's probably because of those two cars and so yeah man super super super cool guy and very very rare so yeah just wanted to bring him up so check so check this out

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[UNKNOWN]: Now that we're on those cars, so that introduced me to a whole new world of Volkswagen collecting, just going over to Europe and meeting those guys over there.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm always equated to if those guys were trying to collect Model T's in Germany, like we would always have the leg up, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: Because they were built here.

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[UNKNOWN]: We can go digging out of a farm somewhere, you know, to Maine and Idaho somewhere, you know.

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[UNKNOWN]: But so these guys, they have all the cool stuff.

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[UNKNOWN]: because that's just where they were right and so we went back over to a show over there a few years later and Christian and I saved in very, very close communication and I told him when I first met him that I wanted to really cool cars and I mentioned to him and I mentioned I mentioned the Schwimwagen was another one until we went back over there and we were over there it's I can't

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[UNKNOWN]: I'll remember it soon as we get off this podcast, but but they it's one that they have every two years.

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[UNKNOWN]: They have has such and then they have this other one and and there was a swim wagon that was for sale there and I didn't know this but apparently swim wagons there's a lot of things that are repopped on them and so you really have to know what you're looking at to know if you're looking at an original like legit swim wagon or not and so I was looking at this one that it come over from England and he had it for sale.

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[UNKNOWN]: And Christian was like, no, no, no, no, you're not buying that.

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[UNKNOWN]: He's like, he made a call.

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[UNKNOWN]: I don't even know where he sent me, man.

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[UNKNOWN]: Like he was like plug it into GPS maps.

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[UNKNOWN]: And then we wound up in the middle of like, I'm talking little town and middle of Germany.

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[UNKNOWN]: I had no idea where I was at.

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[UNKNOWN]: But we're in this cabinet factory, this old cabinet factory, that was around during World War II.

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[UNKNOWN]: And you remember the airplane that the Hitler was going to end the war with.

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[UNKNOWN]: You'll see pictures of it like leaning up on this wall because he moved it.

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[UNKNOWN]: There were bomb in all the factories.

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[UNKNOWN]: The Allied forces were and he moved it to this little factory out in the middle of nowhere.

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[UNKNOWN]: This little cabinet factory and he was trying to finish this airplane.

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[UNKNOWN]: It was going to be the plane that was going to be able to go over the seas and like in the war, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, this this airplane was being built in this little cabinet factory.

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[UNKNOWN]: What this guy does there now is he restores Schwimlagan's KDF cars and Kublagan's.

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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, and so he's like he's like show me pictures like if you look up that airplane on the internet He showed me like pictures like it was leaning on this wall here and here's the bullet holes for when you know Dude, it's it's like crazy over there, man, and so he hooked me up with that guy And that's why I got the swim wagon was the guy's name is his name is Daniel Height I think is how you say it's less name

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[UNKNOWN]: and that that's all he does, man.

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[UNKNOWN]: He just builds like those KDF cards, man, I'm sitting there looking at me.

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[UNKNOWN]: I need to reach out to him because that's seriously is one that I need to, I need to get my hands on a good KDF, but yeah, that link to Christian, like led to a lot of the lot of the historic cards that I have today, but yeah, that was a cool story.

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[UNKNOWN]: So I guarantee the guy in China knows who that is because he's the guy that's

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so he did kind of like like like you did in the beginning when we first started talking.

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[UNKNOWN]: He kind of took his camera and was showing me around, you know, he brought me from like this storefront.

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[UNKNOWN]: like where he does his professional work he like is this 4x4 engineer for like a 4x4 drive systems and he brings me and he shows me these models that he makes of the of the 49 or so beetle that's a 4-wheel drive beetle and they sell them as like a model kit over there it's like an RC car.

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[UNKNOWN]: And he's showing me all the components and all the things how they work and you know all this the suspension and you know just all this cool stuff and then he's and then he says, well, they take me out into the garage and I'm thinking, you know, it's going to be a garage, you know, like a two car garage.

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[UNKNOWN]: at Accura NSX and just all these cool, you know, roles really, just all these cool cars.

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[UNKNOWN]: And as he's going down the line, I start to see these, these like war colored, you know, green, all of drab, you know, beetles.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, whoa, and they got like the, you know,

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[UNKNOWN]: the mud terrain tires on them and yeah those are you got to know your stuff on those quarters too because those are knocked off pretty pretty regularly too.

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[UNKNOWN]: I was looking at one that was a those out of like Puerto Rico and if you didn't know what you were looking at you'd have thought that it was real but it was a you know it was one that had been

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[UNKNOWN]: been re-done.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so those old cars and helps to know, you know, the guys that know, right, to make sure that you're good.

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[UNKNOWN]: And that dude's want to real good good quality stuff.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's awesome, man.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Have you seen the guys over there, like I think they're, are they in Taiwan or something like hand build all the cars over there?

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[UNKNOWN]: And they, like, can't build, like, the poor should be allowed over there and, like, making cars or what we used to make them over here back in the old days, it's crazy, like, the different, you know, talents are around the world when you get to know people in this hobby.

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[UNKNOWN]: for sure, man, for sure, blown away by his early stuff, blown away by some of the stuff that we've been been talking about now.

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[UNKNOWN]: So not to get too far off the point.

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[UNKNOWN]: So before we pass this, back to your contact or your friend Christian Grunman, how important is that friendship

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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, critical, anything that I have that's of any relevance is finger prints are on it somewhere.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's either it came from him or it came from one of his buddies or it's that rare parts, you know, I mean that I can't get my hands on over here or he's known where to get him.

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[UNKNOWN]: And man, he is just, and what's great about him is, is I know that I'm just one person in his

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[UNKNOWN]: his network, you know, to mean that he's, that he's, but him this dad do it.

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[UNKNOWN]: And like the passion, like I see what you do right with your podcast and all the VW shows and all the promotions, he's that guy over in Germany, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: Like he's the one putting on probably the most relevant show in the world today.

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[UNKNOWN]: And he did, he's just an open book.

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[UNKNOWN]: I don't care who you are, do you feel spend an hour with you just educating you on all the little nuances that nobody ever knew of an old, of an old beetle, you know, so yeah, he's he's been he's been critical in everything that I do over there.

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[UNKNOWN]: So let me ask you this question.

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[UNKNOWN]: What is the word preservation mean to you?

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think that preservation to me, it means, you know, cars are only original ones.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so it's, it's to me it's taking a car that's, that's some kind of a historical,

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[UNKNOWN]: relevance and preserving what's remaining of its originality.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so I've got a whole lot of cars and here probably one of my favorite things is to get original paint cars.

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[UNKNOWN]: If I geek out on something that's probably what I geek out of the post is original paint.

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[UNKNOWN]: original cars I've got I've got a West Coast metrics you remember those guys I've got it it's a super beetle man.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's like a 72 Baja or something like that But it's got a hundred miles on it and it's a original paint you know to me and then and so I've got an old 60 Looks more like a 63 it's in early 64

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[UNKNOWN]: Um, he's got 19 hundred miles on it.

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[UNKNOWN]: And it's, it's, it's crazy how they didn't paint under the fenders and some lazy German, you know, the main was just kind of, you know, you know, fogging it up in there.

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[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know, before it was all factory, you know, is like, basically.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and so preservation to me is taking a car now some cars some guys take it to an extreme level right like and I appreciate what they do You know taking pain off with razor blades to get down to the original pain and stuff like this that that 23 window bus that I was telling you I made he did that man I was like you know orange stripper and razor blades to get through like

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[UNKNOWN]: several layers of paint to get down to the original ceiling like, you know what I mean?

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[UNKNOWN]: Red, and so that's what preservation means to me.

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[UNKNOWN]: Now some cars to me.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, they're too far gone and and then they need to be brought all the way back and I guess that's a form of preservation too, but I think in a purest form is taking cars that are historically relevant and keeping them original and not changing things from what they were in the past and so I've got cars with original tires on them still you know main that that is just

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[UNKNOWN]: And how cool is that, you know, I mean, that are that that original, that's crazy.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's crazy.

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[UNKNOWN]: Let's let's spend a little bit of time in kind of this this topic here.

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[UNKNOWN]: Just talking about the historical, you know, I guess relevant.

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[UNKNOWN]: So oval splits barn doors, guise, notchbacks squarebacks commercial vehicles water cool.

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[UNKNOWN]: You've shown me pictures of.

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[UNKNOWN]: and everything in between.

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[UNKNOWN]: What now makes a car worthy of entering the vansal collection?

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[UNKNOWN]: And that's a really good question because I'm wrestling with that daily.

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[UNKNOWN]: My wife has brought in me in the back and saying, hey, we got it.

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[UNKNOWN]: You got to get this thing.

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[UNKNOWN]: If you're not careful, you can, a guy like me can take your hobby and turn it into your master.

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[UNKNOWN]: and turn it into work, and somehow I just wound up with so many cars that, and it's funny, I don't go to find cars, cars find me, you know what I mean?

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[UNKNOWN]: I told you not that actually a lot on my show.

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[UNKNOWN]: I talk about how these cars are like, especially, you know, classic Volkswagen's, I say they're like cats, because cats are known for finding their humans, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: In a crazy way, you know, whatever that way is, the universe like just supplies

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[UNKNOWN]: thing and this thing ends up becoming your pet.

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, the same thing happens with these cars a lot.

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[UNKNOWN]: You hear people say what you just said.

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[UNKNOWN]: They find I think that is so cool.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think I think that I yeah, I don't I've never really intentionally I didn't here early days, but

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[UNKNOWN]: But here nowadays, I don't intentionally look for cars, they just find me.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so, you know, my buddy, Ethan Dunlap, which I've, he's been in the VW scene for every two.

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[UNKNOWN]: And he's probably one of my best VW buddies for sure.

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[UNKNOWN]: And he's forced forcing me.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's a work in progress that kind of put him in order, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: And then we're going to go to the bottom of the list and start getting rid of some cars, you know?

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[UNKNOWN]: And I think for me,

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[UNKNOWN]: I, I still like really nice, like the buddy health cars, you know, I still like building them.

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[UNKNOWN]: The problem with those cars, once you've built them, they're almost too nice to drive, you know what I mean?

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[UNKNOWN]: Like you can't, you can't just pull it out and drive it to a show, you know what I mean?

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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm more about memory making today than I am about,

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[UNKNOWN]: what it is that I own, for say, and so for me, like those cars, they just sit in the corner and they collect dust and every day you're a little more disappointed because you notice the scratch that you've never noticed before or you notice.

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[UNKNOWN]: So I think that the cars for me today, there's a couple of categories.

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[UNKNOWN]: The first one is historically relevant, like I enjoy bringing people into my, you know, we treat it like a museum today, and I enjoy bringing people into the museum, hosting hosting car clubs and having little, you know, little burger and dog.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, cook outs and hang outs and stuff like that.

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[UNKNOWN]: I enjoyed the historically relevant stuff and showing them stuff that they're probably never ever going to get the opportunity to see you know, ever in their lifetime.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so those are the, I love those colors.

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[UNKNOWN]: Now you can see them right here right these old splits.

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[UNKNOWN]: Those are not fun to drive.

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[UNKNOWN]: Those things are, you know, crashbox transmissions like shifting gears, cable breaks.

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[UNKNOWN]: They're not a lot of fun drive, but they're a lot of fun to look at in study and the history.

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[UNKNOWN]: Like these two cars make here, or what they call CCG beetles, which these cars were built when the Volkswagen factory right after the war.

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[UNKNOWN]: was an English control and they were building occupation forces vehicles.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so that green one right there was a US occupation forces vehicle.

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[UNKNOWN]: We're building a 46 right now that's a French occupation forces vehicle.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so I love to nerd out on that stuff.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know what's really cool about that green one there?

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[UNKNOWN]: real quick, I won't get stuck on it.

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[UNKNOWN]: My wife's grandfather died during COVID in my son and him really, really close.

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[UNKNOWN]: And he went and cleaned out his closet where his his foot locker and all this stuff was.

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[UNKNOWN]: And we've got instructions to occupation forces from general Bradley.

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[UNKNOWN]: out of his foot locker for how you were to behave after the war and things that you could do.

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[UNKNOWN]: He just instructions for the troops that were still left over there and it's crazy to me.

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[UNKNOWN]: He got that out of his granddad's great granddad actually foot locker and he could have been driving that car.

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[UNKNOWN]: That car is a 47.

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[UNKNOWN]: It was delivered to the US Occupation Forces and it was one of the

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[UNKNOWN]: I love that kind of stuff.

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[UNKNOWN]: So that's one way into my collection.

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[UNKNOWN]: The cars that are just kind of run of the mill that are, it's hard for me because I have their report about life, you know what I mean?

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[UNKNOWN]: Like, yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: I built these cars, you know what I was I was around building these cars they were magazine cars but but those cars you're kind of they're going to have to kind of go right cars that I have duplicates of right multiple squarebacks that are just 68 square back you know to being well I got it for I get rid of one of them.

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[UNKNOWN]: And where I want him to go is it's not about money.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?

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[UNKNOWN]: I want him to go to somebody.

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[UNKNOWN]: I don't want him to go to a God that's going to take it and flip it.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?

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[UNKNOWN]: I want it to go to that kid that was just like me when I was 16 years old.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?

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[UNKNOWN]: That it'll be his baby.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?

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[UNKNOWN]: And so, you know, to answer your question, what gets into my collection today?

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[UNKNOWN]: I think that it's if it's got, you know, great.

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[UNKNOWN]: you know history number one or if it's really fun to drive and help me make memories with number two and number three you know it's probably more important for me to sort of like thinning this thing down.

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[UNKNOWN]: I might you know the shop that I'm in today it'll hold about 50 cars inside and you know and we've got some room outside for cars that are in cover too.

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[UNKNOWN]: I want to get it down to where this is my collection like I don't I don't want to have you know more and that's probably too many for my wife if you asked her but but I want to get it down to that I'm just building my third one dude I'm just trying to get my third one don't don't let it go be beyond three man if it's just all slippery slope after that but but I think that for me.

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[UNKNOWN]: I love, but I want them to be, I'm building a few really, really historically relevant cars right now that are in, you know, that are in restoration, but I'm done with the building days.

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[UNKNOWN]: Like the cars that I have, I've got a 51 cabrio lathe that I'm probably going to build after the headmielder.

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[UNKNOWN]: I've got a 51 barn door bus that's a really, really old barn door that I'm going to finish.

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[UNKNOWN]: I've got a couple of other cars and then I'm done building.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so I'm not taking on projects anymore.

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[UNKNOWN]: All the projects that I had that aren't going to make the cut, I've already rehomed them to places where I feel like they'll live.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you what I worry about.

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[UNKNOWN]: Where are the model T-collectors today?

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[UNKNOWN]: They all died.

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[UNKNOWN]: They died.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm worried that I'm hanging on to these cars too long to where, because these new kids, man, they're collecting rabbits and, you know, the name and like 80 small cars and stuff, you know?

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[UNKNOWN]: Very good one.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so, you know, but I'm not going to obsess about that.

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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this, I do this as my passion.

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[UNKNOWN]: I don't do it.

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[UNKNOWN]: I've never done it for the money, thank God, because it's, it's not a worthy investment, but I'm,

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[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I don't know if I answered your question, but it's that's kind of what it is big picture.

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[UNKNOWN]: Do you care more about rarity or do you care more about historical significance?

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[UNKNOWN]: I like historical significance, probably more than rarity.

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[UNKNOWN]: I can appreciate both, you know, your background picture there.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's a dent, dent and Howard Stoss.

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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it gets any rarer than that.

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[UNKNOWN]: It probably does some, some guy in the comments will give me something rarer than that.

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[UNKNOWN]: But you'll have to send me some back into this one too.

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[UNKNOWN]: So I can, yeah, that's a beautiful car.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's, that car, they built 18, 18, dent and Howard's in total.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's a hand-built car.

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[UNKNOWN]: So it's coach built and only five of them were made on split window bodies.

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[UNKNOWN]: That one's made on a that's a split window version of it.

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[UNKNOWN]: And of those five, only three, I think, still are known to exist or they know where they're at, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: And so that's about as like from a numbers point, that's about as rare as rare gets.

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[UNKNOWN]: And the stuff that I love about that, the guy that owned it before me,

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[UNKNOWN]: Um, do that, Dan and Howard factory, I call it a factory, it's really just a shop who just still there in Germany, man, and there's still repair and VW is over there, and the girl, the granddaughter that's running it today, um, she, her dad was in there, dude, every one of those body panels, which was hammered out.

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[UNKNOWN]: I literally have, you know, sent you a picture of it.

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[UNKNOWN]: I haven't

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[UNKNOWN]: where they were pounded out the fenders because he went over there and it was there.

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[UNKNOWN]: He got a lot of the original signs.

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[UNKNOWN]: He got the original stump that there were built, beaten these up fenders out on.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so I geek out on stuff like that, you know what I mean?

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[UNKNOWN]: Like that word of geek and out on.

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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: And like these old CCG splits.

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[UNKNOWN]: I mean splits are cool in general, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: Like a, you know, used to like a Hoffman split.

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[UNKNOWN]: For me was like the Holy Grail.

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[UNKNOWN]: Do you know who Hoffman was?

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[UNKNOWN]: he's the guy he was the first guy that was importing them both wagons into the states.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so, you know, Hoffman split, you used to be the holy girl, but, but, you know, that's kind of run of the bill now.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, now it's like, you know, that one was in wartime.

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[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, the one beside it, the one beside it's a 49, you know, the main.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so, it's just a different level of nerdy now, you know, that I love.

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[UNKNOWN]: But if it's not going to be like that level, like crazy,

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[UNKNOWN]: history and relevance.

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[UNKNOWN]: Then it's got to be something that's fun to drive.

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[UNKNOWN]: Something that I can literally get up, go hit a sonic with my dog.

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[UNKNOWN]: Do you know what I love more than anything.

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[UNKNOWN]: So I've got two kids love them dearly both of them.

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[UNKNOWN]: My son collects guitars like I collect cars.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so dude, he is he likes cars, but he's not he's not like eating up with it like I am right.

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[UNKNOWN]: And dude, I love it more than anything.

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[UNKNOWN]: My daughter.

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[UNKNOWN]: is my current rule.

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[UNKNOWN]: And do the best thing that I get to do today.

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[UNKNOWN]: She hit me up.

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[UNKNOWN]: I hadn't been to dub splash.

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[UNKNOWN]: So, dub splashes is a big car show.

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[UNKNOWN]: I know you had Mark on a few episodes ago.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so we started dub splash back in 2012.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I ran it, me and Moncle Scotty ran it.

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[UNKNOWN]: And

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[UNKNOWN]: ran it all the way up until, I mean, right before COVID, whenever, whenever we gave it to Mark, is the next custodian.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I hadn't been back to lunch flash since then.

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[UNKNOWN]: And the coolest thing ever, and I wasn't going to go this year.

52:14.661 --> 52:19.164
[UNKNOWN]: And the coolest thing ever is my daughter came and said, hey, I want to go to dumps flesh.

52:19.725 --> 52:21.206
[UNKNOWN]: And she's got a little Volkswagen.

52:21.226 --> 52:22.147
[UNKNOWN]: She's got a water cool.

52:22.367 --> 52:24.308
[UNKNOWN]: It's an EOS area of the West.

52:24.328 --> 52:25.249
[UNKNOWN]: How do they say those things?

52:25.829 --> 52:28.451
[UNKNOWN]: And it's all slammed in all the things.

52:28.491 --> 52:31.453
[UNKNOWN]: And she and I took our Volkswagen to dumps flesh.

52:32.054 --> 52:34.636
[UNKNOWN]: And dude, I'm telling you, Mark's doing it right, man.

52:34.656 --> 52:37.138
[UNKNOWN]: Like it felt like the old days, you know.

52:37.838 --> 52:39.599
[UNKNOWN]: And so I just had more fun with that.

52:39.659 --> 52:44.381
[UNKNOWN]: And so I was kind of, you know, COVID killed a lot of my passion.

52:44.561 --> 52:48.543
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, it just really poured water on a lot of the passion that I had.

52:48.883 --> 52:53.625
[UNKNOWN]: And my daughter kind of coming back up, she's pulling me back into it.

52:53.805 --> 52:56.386
[UNKNOWN]: And it's a lot of, it's a lot of fun now.

52:56.566 --> 53:02.229
[UNKNOWN]: So, but I don't know where we were, but I've got a question that's right in line.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: What to you?

53:05.069 --> 53:11.386
[UNKNOWN]: What's the difference between an extremely rare Volkswagen and an important Volkswagen?

53:13.948 --> 53:16.651
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so rare to me is just a version, right?

53:16.771 --> 53:21.156
[UNKNOWN]: Like a Dan and Howard loan number car, head meal or low number car.

53:21.737 --> 53:25.161
[UNKNOWN]: Important to me takes a lot of different shapes, right?

53:25.461 --> 53:32.549
[UNKNOWN]: Like important to me, I've got a 84 Mexican beetle sitting up in the rack over here.

53:32.609 --> 53:34.511
[UNKNOWN]: You can see it actually, little white one back there.

53:35.833 --> 53:44.278
[UNKNOWN]: That was Gene Bergs, Mexican Beetle, he had a red white, he had a red white and a blue one, and that's his white one.

53:44.898 --> 53:49.481
[UNKNOWN]: And so he literally went over to Tijuana and bought that in Mexico.

53:49.501 --> 53:56.006
[UNKNOWN]: And it's only got, however far it is from the Tijuana dealership that Gene Bergs, that's the last time he drove it.

53:58.327 --> 54:04.172
[UNKNOWN]: That stuff to me is more fun probably than rarity stories, right?

54:04.753 --> 54:07.235
[UNKNOWN]: I've got a 55 bus over there.

54:07.275 --> 54:08.777
[UNKNOWN]: It's Palm Green Sand Green.

54:09.657 --> 54:14.982
[UNKNOWN]: It's a Wolfsburg edition again, and it's a standard with a sunroof.

54:15.683 --> 54:21.168
[UNKNOWN]: And the guy was a Corps of Engineers, a Corps of Engineers in Germany after the war.

54:22.107 --> 54:43.333
[UNKNOWN]: and he brought it back from Germany and it's been in that same family and they lived in Oklahoma and they would go out and check their oil wells in this bus and original paint, original interior and man, when I sit there and look at, could they have volumes and volumes of books of all the receipts?

54:44.093 --> 54:51.498
[UNKNOWN]: and all that dude, I get so much fun just looking at the history of that Volkswagen, you know, we pulled one out.

54:52.219 --> 55:02.506
[UNKNOWN]: Well, here recently, man, I got a 59 low-light, beautiful low-light gear that's got like all kinds of drag racing history at a North Carolina.

55:03.226 --> 55:03.927
[UNKNOWN]: And dude,

55:04.810 --> 55:08.792
[UNKNOWN]: heavily heavily documented cars are my favorite, right?

55:08.832 --> 55:11.093
[UNKNOWN]: Like like this really railroad back here.

55:11.593 --> 55:16.635
[UNKNOWN]: I have some documentation on it, but I don't like that gear that I've just got man.

55:16.655 --> 55:17.795
[UNKNOWN]: Like I've got the old man.

55:17.815 --> 55:20.576
[UNKNOWN]: Do you know what a Juts and Shoot super charger is?

55:21.417 --> 55:22.057
[UNKNOWN]: Um, whatever.

55:22.812 --> 55:24.093
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's just a little mod.

55:24.253 --> 55:27.715
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it probably gives the Volkswagen another five horsepower or something.

55:27.735 --> 55:30.497
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, yeah, a little bolt on supercharger.

55:30.797 --> 55:35.320
[UNKNOWN]: So this guillaue, this guillaue was with the car or four jets and supercharger.

55:35.781 --> 55:40.324
[UNKNOWN]: Like you would get a brochure with this guillaue and this old man with drag races thing, bracket racing.

55:41.185 --> 55:45.670
[UNKNOWN]: And when they do, he's got, this thing came with like 20 trophies, you know what I mean?

55:46.050 --> 55:52.137
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, it came with all the tickets from his like his tickets from drag race and with all his times on it and all that stuff.

55:52.197 --> 55:54.179
[UNKNOWN]: And so that's the stuff that

55:55.091 --> 56:05.261
[UNKNOWN]: They're really more so than rare, expensive cars, that gets me going way more than the rarity.

56:05.822 --> 56:16.952
[UNKNOWN]: So my wife's Carmen Gia, 71, you have found that in a barn in Pennsylvania, one owner, 46,000 miles, the guy I bought it from, it was his mom's.

56:17.733 --> 56:33.692
[UNKNOWN]: and it came with the original receipt and voice in the day she ordered it from that dealership and Pennsylvania and you know the date that she ordered it in the date that it came in and was delivered and she paid her deposit by check and check number and you know all that stuff.

56:33.992 --> 56:35.854
[UNKNOWN]: Isn't that the coolest thing to ever do?

56:35.994 --> 56:37.676
[UNKNOWN]: I have all that stuff where am I safe?

56:38.517 --> 56:46.379
[UNKNOWN]: So dude, I've got a, I've got a, it's a 60, maybe five or six fast back sitting over here.

56:46.399 --> 56:49.659
[UNKNOWN]: That's an original paint car in the guy worked in NASA.

56:50.399 --> 56:55.180
[UNKNOWN]: And so it's got like the NASA stickers right on for him to be able to get onto the property.

56:55.240 --> 56:55.800
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

56:55.820 --> 57:01.302
[UNKNOWN]: This guy, this guy had so much, you know, the little bit of spiral notebooks, the guys used to carry in their pockets.

57:01.562 --> 57:02.942
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.

57:02.962 --> 57:08.263
[UNKNOWN]: This guy, yeah, this guy kept his, all of his fuel expenses from front to back.

57:08.703 --> 57:20.329
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he kept all of his fuel expenses so miles and like you know all of his fuel receipts from to back and then you flip it over and on the back he kept track of all the old changes the other way.

57:21.149 --> 57:27.432
[UNKNOWN]: And so like, dude, when you get old cars like this, you know, the red car you can barely see it up in the rack in the top over there.

57:27.452 --> 57:28.252
[UNKNOWN]: That's the one with 1900 miles.

57:29.934 --> 57:43.272
[UNKNOWN]: And the guy that you know when I say course find me this is a great example of a car that found me so everybody knows and tell them that you know I like the old bdobs and so one of my buddies call bany said hey man

57:44.218 --> 57:53.702
[UNKNOWN]: There's an original, you know, 64, sitting over Mesquite taxes for cell on the town square, but in a little gas station being consigned.

57:54.402 --> 57:55.883
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, I would ever pass.

57:55.903 --> 58:02.705
[UNKNOWN]: Probably been, everybody that tells me that it winds up being repainted 15 times and late, late model, not non-collectable.

58:02.725 --> 58:04.406
[UNKNOWN]: It's I just blew him off and I didn't know for there.

58:05.126 --> 58:06.487
[UNKNOWN]: He called me back a few weeks later.

58:06.787 --> 58:08.887
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, man, have you gone over there and looked at this car?

58:08.927 --> 58:11.168
[UNKNOWN]: You need to get your butt over there and look at this car.

58:11.608 --> 58:13.469
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, whatever, I just didn't believe it.

58:13.489 --> 58:13.929
[UNKNOWN]: It was real.

58:14.349 --> 58:15.929
[UNKNOWN]: So finally, I call Uncle Scotty.

58:15.949 --> 58:17.690
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, hey, man, let's go check this car out.

58:18.210 --> 58:23.872
[UNKNOWN]: And I get over there and, you know, sad for me, it was for self-like five grand.

58:24.472 --> 58:30.035
[UNKNOWN]: But he had just seen Jerry Seinfeld sell on like Barrett and Jackson or one of the options for like $100,000.

58:30.095 --> 58:34.598
[UNKNOWN]: Now all of a sudden he thinks this thing were $75,000 or something right.

58:34.898 --> 58:43.123
[UNKNOWN]: And I could have had if I had just gone, you know, well, I didn't want to give anywhere near that for that car, but when I got over there, I saw all the originality.

58:43.664 --> 58:47.846
[UNKNOWN]: And what's really cool about this car is the story, Ben.

58:47.966 --> 58:49.627
[UNKNOWN]: So this guy, this old man bought this 64.

58:51.168 --> 58:59.322
[UNKNOWN]: He tried to drive this thing to Galveston, which is about a five-hour trip from Dallas, and a semi-truck blew him off the road, scared him to death.

58:59.622 --> 59:03.809
[UNKNOWN]: He drove that thing home, put it in the garage and bought a cat alight, and never touched it again.

59:03.829 --> 59:04.530
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.

59:06.087 --> 59:15.953
[UNKNOWN]: This car, when you look, it's got all the booklets and all the things, and if you pull the booklets out and you start reading the booklets, you start getting the story and you start googling like, when did this dealership open?

59:16.333 --> 59:21.516
[UNKNOWN]: This thing was sold in December of 63, that dealership opened in January of 64.

59:21.796 --> 59:23.858
[UNKNOWN]: They weren't even open, because this is the first car.

59:24.558 --> 59:36.067
[UNKNOWN]: probably out of that dealership and I've got the original salesman to business card and he flipped it over and the guy that owned it is last name of Walden and he had written the guy's name on the back of the business card.

59:36.427 --> 59:46.735
[UNKNOWN]: I've got that the he changed the tires once he changed the old once and so when he had the old change I think the old was changed back in like 1967.

59:48.036 --> 59:52.100
[UNKNOWN]: He took it to the same gas station that I bought it from all these years later.

59:53.093 --> 59:56.946
[UNKNOWN]: The guy's son, the guy's son, olded out of the garage.

59:57.720 --> 01:00:03.162
[UNKNOWN]: took it back to the gas station that has changed you all all the way back in 1967.

01:00:03.682 --> 01:00:12.584
[UNKNOWN]: The guy's son runs the gas station now, like a different, you know, like father and son on both sides, and he said, hey, would you get this thing ready to concern for me?

01:00:12.624 --> 01:00:13.444
[UNKNOWN]: Didn't want to mess with it.

01:00:14.025 --> 01:00:20.726
[UNKNOWN]: And so that guy just, you know, the brake lines roll swollen up and everything, so he got the brakes lines going and all the things, and he put it up for sale.

01:00:20.786 --> 01:00:23.347
[UNKNOWN]: And like that story to me,

01:00:27.044 --> 01:00:46.158
[UNKNOWN]: it's just crazy man like it is it's the funniest one if they you know the original little books that you would get the service manuals you can see they have a little tear out coupons and it was that and you can have you can see what the coupon was and the first one was like a 300 mile service and then there was a seven and it was these were all three.

01:00:46.778 --> 01:00:58.224
[UNKNOWN]: And there was like a 700 mile loop, and that was free, and then it got to the first old change, like at 1,000 miles or something like that, and it said customer pays, and that's when he took it to that gas station, got the old chain, did have the dealership do it.

01:00:58.925 --> 01:01:04.748
[UNKNOWN]: And so, but man, he's got all the fuel receipts, he's got all of his original insurance cards throughout the years.

01:01:05.448 --> 01:01:10.751
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, man, it is just, I love just, it's just a time capsule, and you just sit there and

01:01:13.152 --> 01:01:17.237
[UNKNOWN]: If you're like cleaning out under the floor mats and stuff like that, I found that you have a postage stamp.

01:01:17.798 --> 01:01:19.420
[UNKNOWN]: You don't remain for back in the 60s.

01:01:19.500 --> 01:01:23.105
[UNKNOWN]: You don't remain just so much fun to do that stuff.

01:01:23.265 --> 01:01:25.948
[UNKNOWN]: And so that is cool, man.

01:01:26.009 --> 01:01:26.729
[UNKNOWN]: What's your saying?

01:01:26.789 --> 01:01:29.853
[UNKNOWN]: The history behind it, but bigger the stories.

01:01:30.454 --> 01:01:52.141
[UNKNOWN]: And again, probably one of the reasons why I started this podcast is because of the stories that people have in and around these cars, you know, whether owning them or not, and even not if now, you know, you can't pull into a gas station in a classic Volkswagen without somebody running up to your to your car or saying it's a it's a it's a 30 minute affair.

01:01:52.261 --> 01:01:52.401
[UNKNOWN]: Right.

01:01:52.461 --> 01:01:53.082
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.

01:01:53.202 --> 01:01:53.702
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.

01:01:53.902 --> 01:01:54.783
[UNKNOWN]: I'm getting gas.

01:01:55.023 --> 01:02:12.016
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, and really it's like, man, you know, these cars were not built for that type of significance later, you know, they we just know what I love the most, but what I love the most is that is when you get pulled over in the gas stations, it's not what is that.

01:02:12.696 --> 01:02:13.517
[UNKNOWN]: I had one of those.

01:02:13.917 --> 01:02:15.198
[UNKNOWN]: That's all it doesn't have.

01:02:20.522 --> 01:02:22.825
[UNKNOWN]: I remember I took this girl a prom in that car.

01:02:22.845 --> 01:02:25.128
[UNKNOWN]: I got my first kiss in that car was a yellow.

01:02:25.228 --> 01:02:28.572
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you're like, oh, yeah, you're just like that.

01:02:28.692 --> 01:02:37.783
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean, my favorites when they say just like that, you know, I'm I'm in a split and I'm like, yeah, I was like a 74 beatle and I'm like, yeah, not really just like that.

01:02:39.445 --> 01:02:43.268
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to let you slide with that one, but that's what I enjoy.

01:02:43.408 --> 01:02:44.930
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I enjoy more than anything.

01:02:44.970 --> 01:02:48.513
[UNKNOWN]: And this is the most produced car I think in history, right?

01:02:48.693 --> 01:02:52.476
[UNKNOWN]: Like in everybody had one, you know what I mean?

01:02:52.496 --> 01:02:55.819
[UNKNOWN]: And everybody's got a story in their fun stories.

01:02:55.939 --> 01:02:56.640
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?

01:02:56.720 --> 01:02:59.342
[UNKNOWN]: They're all like it's, and so yeah.

01:03:00.722 --> 01:03:22.998
[UNKNOWN]: I do it more for the stories and for the hunt and for the dude like every one of these cars like that that that that trip to the Prague and driving that thing across Germany right dude I can't even tell you how many stories I have like that you want to name like that's probably the most extreme one right but so but like so many stories are like me calling my buddy at two at the morning and

01:03:23.518 --> 01:03:26.499
[UNKNOWN]: And like, hey, we got to be up this barn find, you know what I mean?

01:03:26.539 --> 01:03:32.140
[UNKNOWN]: Like, like, David, we went all the way to Connecticut one time from Texas, that's for.

01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:38.001
[UNKNOWN]: And, um, and just, just to be the first one on this barn find, you know what I mean?

01:03:38.061 --> 01:03:42.502
[UNKNOWN]: And, and, um, and just the, you know, just all the memories that I have.

01:03:42.582 --> 01:03:48.584
[UNKNOWN]: And my kids are older now, my son's 23, um, my daughter, and she can shoot me.

01:03:48.704 --> 01:03:50.104
[UNKNOWN]: I think she's, she just turned 22.

01:03:53.885 --> 01:04:06.973
[UNKNOWN]: The memories of me taking them to these car shows and then sleeping, having a pallet in the back of the square back, right, like my favorite memory is I had a double cab bus that I used to take to the car shows and had a little canopy on it.

01:04:07.694 --> 01:04:17.740
[UNKNOWN]: And my son would sit in the back and he would with all toothpicks and he would sell toothpicks out of the back of these car shows, you know, and these old man would just get a kick out of it and they could just buy one of his toothpicks.

01:04:18.520 --> 01:04:23.541
[UNKNOWN]: And I didn't tell him what he had all over his groovy little fingers all over his doing.

01:04:24.781 --> 01:04:26.822
[UNKNOWN]: But the memories, you know what I mean?

01:04:26.842 --> 01:04:35.223
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that that's why it's so hard for me to part with cars is just, I've got a connection like that with everyone of them.

01:04:35.583 --> 01:04:37.844
[UNKNOWN]: It's really, really bad.

01:04:38.384 --> 01:04:44.305
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm going to point in my, in my maturity, let's call it, to know that I can't, you know,

01:04:45.873 --> 01:04:54.162
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like I'm a lot of these cars that I'm just never getting to that I'm never driving that they need to move on.

01:04:54.182 --> 01:04:54.822
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?

01:04:54.862 --> 01:04:57.645
[UNKNOWN]: And they need to move on to the right person, right?

01:04:57.685 --> 01:05:01.489
[UNKNOWN]: So they can start creating those memories and doing those things.

01:05:01.549 --> 01:05:04.713
[UNKNOWN]: And so I'm looking forward to that chapter of my life now.

01:05:05.472 --> 01:05:16.885
[UNKNOWN]: I met a guy, I'm trying to remember his name right now, it's not coming to me, but I interviewed him early on, probably year or more or so ago from South Africa.

01:05:17.686 --> 01:05:23.852
[UNKNOWN]: And what was interesting about him, his his his business is he rents Volkswagen's.

01:05:24.493 --> 01:05:45.374
[UNKNOWN]: He rents cookies and and classic beetles all over you find these guys Instagram and just and Google you know that's awesome and like you you know you enjoy the hunt that's what I do I find the cool stories and the people yeah, but this guy the what what stood out to me was

01:05:46.235 --> 01:06:08.589
[UNKNOWN]: he owns two of every Volkswagen model from production from 1947 or whatever all the way serious yes and they're in this or in closed they're in a closed like yours a closed shop yeah uh and they're just you know collecting dust and he told me on the podcast that day said maybe one day

01:06:09.580 --> 01:06:11.741
[UNKNOWN]: I'll take you in and I show you my collection.

01:06:11.941 --> 01:06:13.841
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, dude, you know what's crazy, man?

01:06:13.881 --> 01:06:15.442
[UNKNOWN]: I'll fly there for that, my brother.

01:06:15.822 --> 01:06:18.423
[UNKNOWN]: Like, like, I consider myself in the scene.

01:06:18.643 --> 01:06:19.083
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?

01:06:19.163 --> 01:06:22.044
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like I know most of the relevant collectors and all the things.

01:06:22.844 --> 01:06:23.844
[UNKNOWN]: I've never even heard of this guy.

01:06:23.864 --> 01:06:24.744
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?

01:06:24.805 --> 01:06:27.545
[UNKNOWN]: Like, it blows me away, you know what I mean?

01:06:27.925 --> 01:06:32.087
[UNKNOWN]: That there's guys up there like that still that we don't know about, you know what I mean?

01:06:32.107 --> 01:06:32.667
[UNKNOWN]: That, right.

01:06:34.161 --> 01:06:34.941
[UNKNOWN]: That's really cool.

01:06:35.301 --> 01:06:37.282
[UNKNOWN]: The actual, it's cool that you're finding those guys.

01:06:37.702 --> 01:07:00.812
[UNKNOWN]: I had him shortly after I had had Randy Carlson on and I remember sending a key bail back to to Randy and I'm like, hey man, I found this, I found this dude with two of every model, you know, you know, and it's legit, it's real, you know, he's saying that in the next few years and he actually said this even on the show in the next few years, he's going to start selling them off.

01:07:01.872 --> 01:07:03.534
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like man, he should.

01:07:03.554 --> 01:07:16.689
[UNKNOWN]: You know, man, because you can't you can't enjoy that many that many cars I can't tell us about the I saw about Randy I bet Randy was a fun interview the that guy Super that guy's got some kind of story.

01:07:16.889 --> 01:07:18.811
[UNKNOWN]: He became, you know, that he yeah

01:07:19.912 --> 01:07:37.983
[UNKNOWN]: Really, anybody, but, you know, I just value everybody's time and, you know, I'm just a little passionate guy here doing a do doing a podcast telling Volkswagen stories, you know, so anybody, any significance at all, you know, to give me their time, I just value it so much.

01:07:39.003 --> 01:07:40.245
[UNKNOWN]: Randy's the guy, for sure.

01:07:40.825 --> 01:07:46.151
[UNKNOWN]: He's the, he was instrumental in my early, um, I don't know how much older he is to me.

01:07:46.171 --> 01:07:52.557
[UNKNOWN]: He's probably maybe 10 years or something like that, but, but he's he's been one that helped me a long way as well.

01:07:52.597 --> 01:07:55.320
[UNKNOWN]: Like, by this, don't buy that, like that's dumb.

01:07:55.380 --> 01:07:56.441
[UNKNOWN]: Get away from that.

01:07:56.681 --> 01:08:02.247
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, like, luckily, I went, I went against his advice and went got the Fiddling, but, but, um,

01:08:03.028 --> 01:08:05.349
[UNKNOWN]: But let's touch, let's touch on that.

01:08:05.429 --> 01:08:14.975
[UNKNOWN]: Let me, let me touch on that because I have this thing because I, I definitely want to know this ever make any mistakes by any of these Volkswagen's like, what's the biggest mistake?

01:08:14.995 --> 01:08:15.616
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.

01:08:16.616 --> 01:08:17.937
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.

01:08:19.318 --> 01:08:27.223
[UNKNOWN]: I have won most of my cars that I've bought I've bought silencing, believe it or not, because you just have to move that fast.

01:08:27.883 --> 01:08:44.913
[UNKNOWN]: Right to get to get to get to get some of these cards right and like when a rare when a rare one pops up like it's not going to hang around very long and so and so I definitely will tell you that that more has gone right than has gone wrong, but if it seems too good to be real.

01:08:45.613 --> 01:08:52.317
[UNKNOWN]: probably is, you know, and I'll never forget me and my son, I have a an 89 van again, Westy Syncro.

01:08:53.137 --> 01:09:00.642
[UNKNOWN]: And it's not rare, but he stretches the imagination, but it's one of my favorite both wagons because it's a memory creator.

01:09:01.462 --> 01:09:14.347
[UNKNOWN]: And when my son was 16 years old, he and I went on a 40-day camping trip and that thing with no plan across the United States and just lived out of that thing, staying on BLM land and national forest.

01:09:14.407 --> 01:09:24.411
[UNKNOWN]: And we made our way to Washington State and my wife and my daughter flew in, and we went on that Alaskan cruise and we came back and then all four of us

01:09:25.111 --> 01:09:38.978
[UNKNOWN]: We're now in the van and traveling on the back leg trying to get back to Texas through Yellowstone and all that kind of stuff and so, but on that trip, I'll never forget I was in one of these national parks where there's no cell service.

01:09:54.747 --> 01:10:15.375
[UNKNOWN]: And they were stupid cheap and it was this stupid kind of a deal, but I couldn't talk to the guy and the problem with constantly he's from Ukraine and so people with accents don't really throw him like they like they would throw like me and you like the first thing with me and you, you know, the man if God's got an accent when he's talking about Western Union and like all this kind of stuff or like not it's.

01:10:15.915 --> 01:10:17.336
[UNKNOWN]: That's probably a scam, right?

01:10:17.476 --> 01:10:23.979
[UNKNOWN]: But, but, but, but, but Constantine, like we wired that money and those cars just never, you know what I mean?

01:10:23.999 --> 01:10:26.661
[UNKNOWN]: They, they were, they weren't real, you know what I mean?

01:10:26.721 --> 01:10:32.003
[UNKNOWN]: And so, and I've had cars that that have shown up that it's, you know, proclaimed to be something that they're not.

01:10:32.023 --> 01:10:37.706
[UNKNOWN]: Or I had original pain in their respraise and all the things, but I had lost a lot though.

01:10:37.926 --> 01:10:42.889
[UNKNOWN]: I hadn't lost a lot, most of what I've gotten because in this hobby I find, if you're dealing,

01:10:43.965 --> 01:10:46.907
[UNKNOWN]: first thing I'm trying to figure out as a my dealing with another Volkswagen person.

01:10:47.587 --> 01:11:11.242
[UNKNOWN]: If I'm dealing with another Volkswagen person, and I hadn't found very many bad Volkswagen people out there, but but so if you're dealing with a legitimate Volkswagen person and and and they know the history and all the things all of a sudden I start to feel a little, a little safer and getting it done and so, but yeah, people who trip out on how many cars.

01:11:12.042 --> 01:11:15.765
[UNKNOWN]: that I've wired cash for and never never seen it.

01:11:16.005 --> 01:11:24.791
[UNKNOWN]: And so I'm pleased to say probably 90 out of 100 were a, were a, were a pleasant, you know, sometimes I get them and I'm like, they're way better than I thought they were going to be.

01:11:25.651 --> 01:11:28.173
[UNKNOWN]: And that's, that's what's a lot of fun.

01:11:28.333 --> 01:11:36.158
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, when you do these kind of course, especially going the glove box and you find all that significance, like you're telling me about, yeah, find all that.

01:11:36.198 --> 01:11:36.378
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:11:36.398 --> 01:11:36.678
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:11:36.838 --> 01:11:36.938
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:11:36.958 --> 01:11:37.059
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:11:37.079 --> 01:11:37.219
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:11:37.319 --> 01:11:37.499
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:11:37.559 --> 01:11:37.739
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:41.352
[UNKNOWN]: That's probably the only downside I've had in the hobby.

01:11:41.372 --> 01:11:41.974
[UNKNOWN]: I mean

01:11:43.027 --> 01:11:45.549
[UNKNOWN]: From my entire time, I've got tired, right?

01:11:45.629 --> 01:11:52.833
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I'm, I'm, for a long time, I was one in our VW community here in Texas, like me and a few buddies, you know what I mean?

01:11:52.873 --> 01:11:57.496
[UNKNOWN]: I'm, for sure, like our core club, you know, we're kind of carrying the hobby on our back.

01:11:57.516 --> 01:11:59.017
[UNKNOWN]: And that gets heavy sometimes, right?

01:11:59.037 --> 01:12:04.940
[UNKNOWN]: Like I, I have mad respect for the guys that have been running these shows for 20, 30 years, you know what I mean?

01:12:05.200 --> 01:12:07.922
[UNKNOWN]: And because, man, they, people are out now.

01:12:08.502 --> 01:12:10.263
[UNKNOWN]: You know, no, it goes into that.

01:12:10.543 --> 01:12:28.092
[UNKNOWN]: And they don't know what it costs, you know, there's no way to cost the first year we took the peer show over down here in St. Peter'sburg that just to have the police close the road and then have those, those few cops that the city said, look, if you want to do it, here's how you have to do it.

01:12:28.512 --> 01:12:30.733
[UNKNOWN]: So just to have those police was nine grand.

01:12:31.353 --> 01:12:40.039
[UNKNOWN]: And then just to get the venue was 6,000 and just to get the space where the venue rents the actual grass from was another 3500.

01:12:40.179 --> 01:12:47.004
[UNKNOWN]: Well, then you have to have fire and EMS, and you know, the there's got to be two paramedics.

01:12:47.024 --> 01:12:47.264
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:12:47.484 --> 01:12:49.166
[UNKNOWN]: Be too firefighter.

01:12:49.206 --> 01:12:54.089
[UNKNOWN]: You've got to be cool and you've got to carry and you've got to carry the front end of all of the merch, right?

01:12:54.129 --> 01:12:54.769
[UNKNOWN]: All the time.

01:12:54.809 --> 01:12:55.390
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.

01:12:55.890 --> 01:12:56.291
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.

01:12:56.311 --> 01:12:58.152
[UNKNOWN]: That's that's the six grand.

01:12:58.252 --> 01:12:58.552
[UNKNOWN]: You know,

01:13:00.273 --> 01:13:03.915
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, don't understand how you just get a kick, man, like I read the comments and like these guys are doing this for profit.

01:13:03.935 --> 01:13:20.245
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me

01:13:20.825 --> 01:13:32.327
[UNKNOWN]: And if you, if you even added up the hours, you know what I mean, that you spend on that thing, you're making like a quarter an hour, you know, the being kind of a thing, but yeah, but yeah, always always do that.

01:13:32.548 --> 01:13:33.468
[UNKNOWN]: It's the passion.

01:13:33.508 --> 01:13:34.088
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no.

01:13:34.568 --> 01:13:37.549
[UNKNOWN]: Like you said, keeping the hobby going, you know, is more important.

01:13:37.569 --> 01:13:42.309
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm sure that your story, I'm curious to know though, your story is probably the same as mine.

01:13:42.350 --> 01:13:43.410
[UNKNOWN]: We were rocking along.

01:13:43.990 --> 01:13:49.251
[UNKNOWN]: Intenses had a very vibrant, you know, VW community for, I mean, man from when I was a teenager.

01:13:49.931 --> 01:14:00.384
[UNKNOWN]: You know, all the way until I was in my late 30s, probably, is a, and a lot of these old guys that were running the bug ants and the bug gouts and what, you know, to mean all these, you know, drag race events and all this stuff, they just got old, man.

01:14:00.404 --> 01:14:06.692
[UNKNOWN]: They got old, they got old, they got old, they got old, they got old, they got old, they got old, they got old, they got old, they got old, they got old, they got old, they got old, they got old, they got old, they got old.

01:14:07.132 --> 01:14:12.413
[UNKNOWN]: And so we found ourselves in Texas here, you know, one of the big shows was a Fredericksburg show.

01:14:12.833 --> 01:14:15.194
[UNKNOWN]: And God lead it is in the Hill Country, Texas.

01:14:15.234 --> 01:14:16.074
[UNKNOWN]: It was a lot of fun.

01:14:16.414 --> 01:14:19.415
[UNKNOWN]: And we would just take that town over this old German town.

01:14:20.155 --> 01:14:23.816
[UNKNOWN]: And it was a lot of fun, but that old guy, man, like he just got beat up.

01:14:24.476 --> 01:14:28.677
[UNKNOWN]: You know, like everybody talking about all the profit he was breaking out of this show and all the things.

01:14:29.597 --> 01:14:31.517
[UNKNOWN]: And he just got beat up and he just got tired.

01:14:31.557 --> 01:14:33.058
[UNKNOWN]: And when he retired,

01:14:34.723 --> 01:14:43.225
[UNKNOWN]: You know, the guy that was doing the bug in a bug out got old, he retired and all of a sudden we were sitting here with no shows, you know, to mean to know, you know, that's where we started dubs flash.

01:14:43.265 --> 01:14:48.546
[UNKNOWN]: We, you know, it's 2012, but we did it because we were panicking is like, dude, everything's gone.

01:14:48.566 --> 01:14:51.266
[UNKNOWN]: All of a sudden, you know, to mean we got a, we got to replace it.

01:14:51.666 --> 01:14:59.308
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that it's just, you know, people don't understand is, and so I've gotten, I've gotten tired, but I've never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.

01:15:00.482 --> 01:15:04.630
[UNKNOWN]: had a sour taste in my mouth about this hobby, about the people in this hobby.

01:15:04.650 --> 01:15:08.978
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, I love, I mean, I just, I love everything about it.

01:15:09.038 --> 01:15:12.665
[UNKNOWN]: I love every Volkswagen person that I've ever met, you know, a name.

01:15:13.420 --> 01:15:39.082
[UNKNOWN]: and man they are a they're an interesting group or they you've got you you've got from hippy you're the main like flower child all the way up to big money guys to yeah i mean you have a turnies or no it was coming to the show who you're in front of you could be in front of a gas station clerk attendant you know that you can bring your groceries out at the grocery store or you're talking to that guy thinking he's him and he turns out he's a brainer

01:15:40.950 --> 01:15:45.493
[UNKNOWN]: You know, when I go to the shows, man, I don't even enjoy the shiny show cards anymore.

01:15:45.993 --> 01:15:50.875
[UNKNOWN]: I enjoy that kid that just got this thing and he's working on it, you know what I mean?

01:15:50.915 --> 01:15:55.138
[UNKNOWN]: And he's scraped together, traded this and that and the other to get these wheels.

01:15:55.278 --> 01:15:56.118
[UNKNOWN]: And you know what I mean?

01:15:56.158 --> 01:15:58.619
[UNKNOWN]: Those are the ones that I enjoy.

01:15:58.639 --> 01:16:03.162
[UNKNOWN]: And I really hope that I can get back.

01:16:04.326 --> 01:16:08.810
[UNKNOWN]: to those guys, you want to be in that little young community that's still into these things.

01:16:09.050 --> 01:16:09.490
[UNKNOWN]: And so.

01:16:09.851 --> 01:16:10.071
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:16:10.251 --> 01:16:12.973
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, I basically do a lot on this on this show.

01:16:13.313 --> 01:16:18.698
[UNKNOWN]: I say this to the collectors, to the builders, to the enthusiasts, to the hobbyists.

01:16:18.738 --> 01:16:20.820
[UNKNOWN]: I say to everybody, it's up to us, man.

01:16:21.460 --> 01:16:23.281
[UNKNOWN]: It's up to us, the keep it cool.

01:16:23.581 --> 01:16:34.384
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, I got, you know, I just, on my wife's Carmen Gia, I just put some some phone dial, some five by five by one 30.

01:16:34.424 --> 01:16:36.165
[UNKNOWN]: I had to change out, you know, the front.

01:16:36.685 --> 01:16:42.066
[UNKNOWN]: roaders and the rear drums that were drilled and and studied for that put the porches on there.

01:16:42.447 --> 01:16:47.508
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I had my my my son out there with me and I'm like all right man have a seat on the bucket.

01:16:47.728 --> 01:16:49.028
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go turn these wrenches.

01:16:49.048 --> 01:16:57.691
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah and you know I got him doing it all and you know even though he complains he'd rather be inside you know playing video games and doing a thing.

01:16:58.831 --> 01:17:05.177
[UNKNOWN]: I'm creating a memories and he's learning stuff, you know, and it's up to us, dude.

01:17:05.377 --> 01:17:06.338
[UNKNOWN]: It's up to us.

01:17:06.818 --> 01:17:08.180
[UNKNOWN]: My son and I connected.

01:17:08.200 --> 01:17:09.521
[UNKNOWN]: He wouldn't really accord.

01:17:10.202 --> 01:17:12.744
[UNKNOWN]: But we were able to use Volkswagen to create those.

01:17:13.425 --> 01:17:15.667
[UNKNOWN]: He and I like the camp and like to go on adventures.

01:17:16.287 --> 01:17:18.970
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm one of those guys to man that you're not going to sit in the house.

01:17:19.350 --> 01:17:22.012
[UNKNOWN]: And I mean, my son, he was mowing yards.

01:17:23.154 --> 01:17:30.561
[UNKNOWN]: He always was entrepreneurial and he wanted to make money and and he would come in and he'd say all my buddies were getting They're all getting allowances.

01:17:30.601 --> 01:17:31.882
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, well, you're not getting allowance.

01:17:31.902 --> 01:17:44.494
[UNKNOWN]: You're you make your bed because you're sleeping and you know, and and so he went over and help the neighbor clean his garage and He came back with a $5 bill and I made him take it back because I like we don't charge our neighbors.

01:17:44.514 --> 01:17:45.435
[UNKNOWN]: We help our neighbors and

01:17:45.975 --> 01:17:58.006
[UNKNOWN]: And so finally, man, I was like, I got to figure out how to help make money, you know, so he mode yards and so I say all that to say that I'm big on getting your kids out and creating experiences.

01:17:58.066 --> 01:18:08.595
[UNKNOWN]: And even if they're not core people, man, Volkswagen's are just, I mean, that that van again in those old buses, I can't tell you how many times, you know, he and I have been laying out under the stars.

01:18:09.596 --> 01:18:17.061
[UNKNOWN]: three hours from cell phone service, you know what I mean with no interruption, and that's the purest time that he'll never ever forget, you know what I mean?

01:18:17.121 --> 01:18:20.843
[UNKNOWN]: I think our society today, they're just missing that, you know what I mean?

01:18:20.863 --> 01:18:22.464
[UNKNOWN]: They're just missing that, you know?

01:18:22.984 --> 01:18:35.472
[UNKNOWN]: And these car shows, my kids think of these these people, man, like, man, this generation, they're getting old down, and my kids think of these people like their grandparents, man, when they see it, and it's, it's hugs because they grew up with them in these car shows and seeing them,

01:18:36.913 --> 01:18:37.973
[UNKNOWN]: I'm doing that now.

01:18:38.113 --> 01:18:39.494
[UNKNOWN]: I've got my my teens.

01:18:39.714 --> 01:18:40.754
[UNKNOWN]: They're they come with me.

01:18:40.794 --> 01:18:41.994
[UNKNOWN]: They set up every show.

01:18:42.094 --> 01:18:42.815
[UNKNOWN]: They break down.

01:18:42.835 --> 01:18:44.155
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:18:44.295 --> 01:18:45.715
[UNKNOWN]: They work the merch table.

01:18:45.875 --> 01:18:46.796
[UNKNOWN]: They're sell it stuff.

01:18:46.876 --> 01:18:49.416
[UNKNOWN]: They're checking people in their help.

01:18:49.436 --> 01:18:51.317
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody wants to do any of that work.

01:18:51.377 --> 01:18:51.617
[UNKNOWN]: Right.

01:18:51.777 --> 01:18:52.277
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.

01:18:52.337 --> 01:18:54.718
[UNKNOWN]: My kids were always direct and traffic.

01:19:06.501 --> 01:19:16.445
[UNKNOWN]: You know, every young person that I meet that's raising raising a kid, I'm like, you know, please put real memories in their mind, get them away from those electronics, you know, the main market issues.

01:19:17.165 --> 01:19:23.448
[UNKNOWN]: That's just that that's a crazy thing that we have to deal with that wasn't around when when I was a kid.

01:19:23.768 --> 01:19:27.150
[UNKNOWN]: I'm born and said I haven't number 80's kid, you know, 90's kid.

01:19:27.450 --> 01:19:32.592
[UNKNOWN]: You had a you had a BMX man and and and a rule that just said you had to be in my dog.

01:19:33.192 --> 01:19:35.855
[UNKNOWN]: you're on the road man.

01:19:36.255 --> 01:19:38.557
[UNKNOWN]: That's the way we all worry so much fun, you know.

01:19:38.998 --> 01:19:44.002
[UNKNOWN]: I'd carry dimes so I could get on the pay phone back in the day and and call home, you know.

01:19:45.791 --> 01:19:51.294
[UNKNOWN]: my dad bought me a pager when I was like 11, you know, so he could find you.

01:19:51.354 --> 01:19:51.595
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:19:51.915 --> 01:19:53.556
[UNKNOWN]: He could page me and he page me.

01:19:53.596 --> 01:19:53.856
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:19:54.196 --> 01:20:02.982
[UNKNOWN]: I'd have to call home, you know, so I'd have the dimes and I think I think about the way we raise kids now, where we have to know where they're at every second of the day.

01:20:03.002 --> 01:20:03.102
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:20:03.723 --> 01:20:05.724
[UNKNOWN]: My parents had no idea where I was.

01:20:06.124 --> 01:20:06.945
[UNKNOWN]: You're not easily.

01:20:07.345 --> 01:20:08.126
[UNKNOWN]: My dad too.

01:20:08.286 --> 01:20:08.526
[UNKNOWN]: None.

01:20:09.006 --> 01:20:15.318
[UNKNOWN]: you know and do not tell you I wouldn't have had a good damn thing because I really was up to no good for

01:20:17.273 --> 01:20:19.374
[UNKNOWN]: 85% of the time, you know, I mean, I was a good kid.

01:20:19.394 --> 01:20:21.776
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have a criminal record or anything, you know.

01:20:21.796 --> 01:20:30.540
[UNKNOWN]: I always tell, I always tell my son and that, you know, I'm an example of if you'll do the opposite of me, you'll offer me a whole lot easier.

01:20:30.580 --> 01:20:35.242
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I like to say I don't have a criminal record, but I actually did get arrested once.

01:20:35.302 --> 01:20:38.464
[UNKNOWN]: Thankfully, before I was 17, I was, I was,

01:20:40.674 --> 01:20:43.736
[UNKNOWN]: I was still in a VW emblem off the front of a bus.

01:20:43.996 --> 01:20:46.958
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, come on man, because I would be a VW story too.

01:20:46.978 --> 01:20:51.962
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, it fits on a 10 inch subwoofer in the back of my Volkswagen perfectly.

01:20:51.982 --> 01:20:58.646
[UNKNOWN]: And so I needed to, you know, and I, and I stole two of these VW emblems man in the cops got me still in the second one.

01:20:59.347 --> 01:21:02.229
[UNKNOWN]: Um, but anyway, yeah, yeah, it's funny.

01:21:02.249 --> 01:21:06.512
[UNKNOWN]: Like my, my crime criminal history is linked to Volkswagen's also.

01:21:07.392 --> 01:21:22.339
[UNKNOWN]: So I did that that those same crimes never got caught, but mine were Cadillac Cadillac and Mercedes emblems back in the Yeah, you could lift them up and expose that wire and you could pinch it and uh yeah, yeah, cut it Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:21:22.779 --> 01:21:32.964
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you know, we went down the wrong avenue, but uh good good times of being kids for sure Oh, yeah, for sure, I'm for sure And let's talk about the head Mueller Yeah

01:21:34.780 --> 01:21:43.310
[UNKNOWN]: for somebody that might be listening to the podcast that's a Volkswagen enthusiast, maybe they've heard of the head Mueller, but they don't really understand the significance.

01:21:44.231 --> 01:21:48.236
[UNKNOWN]: Tell us about why this car is such an important Volkswagen.

01:21:49.245 --> 01:22:10.242
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so a heavy Mueller is considered so the Dan and Howard, the one that you're back around the one behind me, that's a coach built car and a head Mueller's a coach built car as well, but Dan and Howard bought parts from Volkswagen and then made their car and sold it as a Dan and Howard head, heb Mueller was actually a contract from Volkswagen to head Mueller the company.

01:22:10.882 --> 01:22:37.223
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the build a two-seat roadster, so a coach built two-seat roadster for Volkswagen to resell under the Volkswagen title, right, and so, and so there was two versions, and so there was two contracts, Volkswagen awarded headmieler the two-seat roadster and they awarded Carmen of the Carmen Kia, the four-seat convertible.

01:22:37.923 --> 01:22:42.787
[UNKNOWN]: And so, headmielder, they're just wasn't very, very many of them produced.

01:22:42.927 --> 01:22:43.668
[UNKNOWN]: They were hand-built.

01:22:44.689 --> 01:22:49.713
[UNKNOWN]: They would send these, these disassembled Volkswagen beetles to the headmielder factory.

01:22:49.733 --> 01:22:56.559
[UNKNOWN]: And then they would basically headmielder would cut the roof off of it and extend the doors and shorten the windshield.

01:22:56.639 --> 01:22:59.742
[UNKNOWN]: And just do all these things to make it a two-seat roadster.

01:22:59.762 --> 01:23:00.963
[UNKNOWN]: So it's a hand-built.

01:23:01.623 --> 01:23:22.805
[UNKNOWN]: coach built car, and what's funny is headmular, you know, somewhat argue that they're probably the most rare and the most valuable of the Volkswagen's today, like that's probably the top of the collector's mountain, if you will, they got fired by Volkswagen because they're quality standards and Carmen wound up winning the contract.

01:23:23.389 --> 01:23:51.131
[UNKNOWN]: in Carmen wound up going on and building the Carmen Gia and and ultimately I believe came became a part of Volkswagen and and so it's funny that that had Mueller you know their their quality was bad and they're the most collectible cars now and so that's what a had Mueller is I think the manufacturing numbers I think it's like 800 up and we're built or something like that okay and a lot of my lost lost the time you know the this one of mine

01:23:52.572 --> 01:23:56.413
[UNKNOWN]: when I was in Germany, I told Christian, you know, when I told my one of the headmielder.

01:23:57.413 --> 01:24:08.237
[UNKNOWN]: And so, you know, fast forward like two or three years later, my German accent's terrible by the way, but Christian calls me and he's like, yeah, and that's terrible.

01:24:08.297 --> 01:24:10.677
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what I'm going to do.

01:24:10.757 --> 01:24:12.618
[UNKNOWN]: And so he called me, but he's found a headmielder.

01:24:13.626 --> 01:24:15.368
[UNKNOWN]: And I have to buy two cars at once.

01:24:15.568 --> 01:24:16.549
[UNKNOWN]: They're in the state.

01:24:17.470 --> 01:24:29.742
[UNKNOWN]: And this heavier has been partnered in crime with a four, so the heavier is 49 and the cabrio lay, which is a four-seat convertible is a 50.

01:24:30.183 --> 01:24:34.427
[UNKNOWN]: They both been in the same collection in that dealership of all twice in dealership over in germinate.

01:24:35.287 --> 01:24:38.388
[UNKNOWN]: collection for the their entire law of times.

01:24:39.169 --> 01:24:42.290
[UNKNOWN]: And so he calls me and he says, hey, I need an answer right now.

01:24:42.610 --> 01:24:43.190
[UNKNOWN]: Yes or no.

01:24:43.590 --> 01:24:47.091
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even know the price on these cars, but he needs an answer.

01:24:47.252 --> 01:24:48.272
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, no, to all one of them.

01:24:48.472 --> 01:24:49.832
[UNKNOWN]: Like that's how these deals go down.

01:24:49.852 --> 01:24:54.694
[UNKNOWN]: And so I tell Christian, yeah, of course, you answered yes, you know, the man he's like, you got about both of them.

01:24:54.874 --> 01:24:55.735
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, all right.

01:24:56.195 --> 01:24:56.695
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a guest.

01:24:56.755 --> 01:24:57.255
[UNKNOWN]: Count me in.

01:24:58.095 --> 01:24:58.576
[UNKNOWN]: And so.

01:25:00.739 --> 01:25:10.581
[UNKNOWN]: Then he just disappears and I don't hear from Christian for like probably five, six, seven months and when I when I had

01:25:12.130 --> 01:25:23.233
[UNKNOWN]: When he had called me, I had the money, and I'd rattled, I had money that my wife didn't know about, and my workwife didn't know about my accounting at the office, doesn't know about, and that's my play money, right?

01:25:24.034 --> 01:25:40.359
[UNKNOWN]: And I had the money to do it, and at that time, but I didn't hear from Christian for like, man, it just, it was months and months and months, and I'd even texted him and called him, and he just no response, and he's a busy guy, so I just figured the deal fell apart, right?

01:25:41.379 --> 01:25:48.963
[UNKNOWN]: And so the fast forward, I think it was like, man, I think it was November, I think I think I got that call on like January fast forward like November.

01:25:49.604 --> 01:25:52.645
[UNKNOWN]: He calls me and he says, okay, the deal is done.

01:25:52.665 --> 01:25:57.288
[UNKNOWN]: I need the money by tomorrow, wired by tomorrow.

01:25:58.028 --> 01:26:03.311
[UNKNOWN]: And dude, I cannot tell you, like usually I've got honey holes that I can go to and I can kind of,

01:26:03.918 --> 01:26:05.960
[UNKNOWN]: you know, I support my habit if you will.

01:26:06.601 --> 01:26:22.857
[UNKNOWN]: And dude, we were getting like, um, we're getting purchased one of our businesses was getting purchased and they were auditing our books and and just do all of my whole, my honey hole for dried up and there was just no way that I could in good conscience do this, this deal.

01:26:23.278 --> 01:26:25.099
[UNKNOWN]: And Christians like dude, you told me you were going to do it.

01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:27.121
[UNKNOWN]: and I was not call a crap man.

01:26:27.161 --> 01:26:34.085
[UNKNOWN]: And so I hung up the phone, I called Gene Langen, who's a very, big collector out on the East Coast.

01:26:34.785 --> 01:26:39.848
[UNKNOWN]: And in Gene, he and I had become good friends over the years, not bought it a couple of good cars from him.

01:26:40.469 --> 01:26:42.870
[UNKNOWN]: I called Gene and I said, hey, Gene, do it up sick.

01:26:43.751 --> 01:26:47.853
[UNKNOWN]: I don't, you know, this is all I've ever wanted, but I just can't and good conscience to do it.

01:26:48.454 --> 01:26:55.260
[UNKNOWN]: And I said, so, you know, you got to wire this money to Christian today and you can have these two cars and jeans like, okay, done.

01:26:55.921 --> 01:26:59.564
[UNKNOWN]: And so, Jean bought the two cars from Christian secure the bill.

01:27:00.545 --> 01:27:05.089
[UNKNOWN]: And Jean, I'll never forget, man, like you don't meet too many humans that will do this.

01:27:05.209 --> 01:27:11.534
[UNKNOWN]: Like Jean called me like a like a like a week later, and he said, hey, man, you really, really want to

01:27:15.397 --> 01:27:18.478
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, dude, it's like, it's all, you know, it's like all I've ever wanted.

01:27:18.538 --> 01:27:20.819
[UNKNOWN]: Like, it's, it's an amazing car and all the things.

01:27:20.839 --> 01:27:24.181
[UNKNOWN]: He goes, all right, he's like, how long do you need to get your money, right?

01:27:24.661 --> 01:27:30.183
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, you know, it was like December first and I was like, into the year, I'll have it straight out.

01:27:30.743 --> 01:27:32.624
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, cool, he's like, just wire me the cash.

01:27:33.345 --> 01:27:45.899
[UNKNOWN]: And when he goes in his years, and so now the next thing I think he's going to take advantage of he may be, you know, because most people would like of those two cars, I would argue the heavier is the more the more historically relevant and more valuable car.

01:27:46.499 --> 01:27:47.741
[UNKNOWN]: And so I said, well, how much I owe you?

01:27:48.041 --> 01:27:50.544
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, well, I paid this divided by two.

01:27:50.744 --> 01:27:51.445
[UNKNOWN]: That's what you owe me.

01:27:52.162 --> 01:27:53.743
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm like, dude, come on, that's not fair.

01:27:53.764 --> 01:27:56.806
[UNKNOWN]: Like, like, that's what you, that's what you owe me, man.

01:27:57.527 --> 01:28:04.153
[UNKNOWN]: And so dude, I will forever, like, he sits on the top shelf, like in my, like, these are quality people.

01:28:04.333 --> 01:28:08.617
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I mean, you should interview him one day, but he's just one of the best, man.

01:28:08.997 --> 01:28:09.698
[UNKNOWN]: He's one of the best.

01:28:09.718 --> 01:28:10.899
[UNKNOWN]: He lives in Florida, I think.

01:28:10.939 --> 01:28:13.541
[UNKNOWN]: Now, like, he does winters there, I think.

01:28:13.641 --> 01:28:13.802
[UNKNOWN]: But,

01:28:14.662 --> 01:28:26.611
[UNKNOWN]: But anyway, so that's how I got the head and my possession and and then a few years later the cabria lay that that was sold with it Jean called me and said, you know, he's like, hey, man.

01:28:27.251 --> 01:28:30.013
[UNKNOWN]: I really think these two cars have been together their entire lives.

01:28:30.353 --> 01:28:34.076
[UNKNOWN]: You know, most of it He goes they need they need they need to still be together.

01:28:34.156 --> 01:28:37.338
[UNKNOWN]: And so he sold me that car two years later in their again.

01:28:37.358 --> 01:28:38.299
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, what are you?

01:28:38.739 --> 01:28:39.160
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, well

01:28:39.860 --> 01:28:42.642
[UNKNOWN]: We paid this, you already paid me half of that, so you owe me the other half.

01:28:42.662 --> 01:28:43.783
[UNKNOWN]: I don't like dude.

01:28:44.183 --> 01:28:49.887
[UNKNOWN]: I was like so that dude is the most straight-up guy That I've ever met just ever met like nobody's ever.

01:28:49.907 --> 01:28:55.271
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to say nobody's ever done anything You know nice for me, but but but nobody's ever like stepped up.

01:28:55.371 --> 01:29:04.978
[UNKNOWN]: It's not like in my immediate circle or family Brand or whatever gene really stepped up and so that's all wound up with a heavy and the heavy was a fun story

01:29:06.539 --> 01:29:08.840
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of the Hep Mueller lost their identities.

01:29:09.320 --> 01:29:11.861
[UNKNOWN]: And there's a group called the Hep Hunters.

01:29:12.501 --> 01:29:21.024
[UNKNOWN]: And it's a group of guys that like you talk about a niche within a niche, like these guys are their Hep, Hep guys.

01:29:21.044 --> 01:29:23.605
[UNKNOWN]: And they're always looking for history on Hebbs.

01:29:23.665 --> 01:29:28.666
[UNKNOWN]: And my car had been in a fronting collision like in like 1964 or something like that.

01:29:29.326 --> 01:29:30.867
[UNKNOWN]: And when these car grew over in Germany,

01:29:32.148 --> 01:29:56.225
[UNKNOWN]: What they made them do is they made them by an NOS pan, which is the new old stock pan from the factory, and then they resamped it with the same Numbers as the 49 have and so you're looking at you know like 50's cars have shocks You know what I mean have lever shocks and so it was kind of a confusing car, but it been in this fronting collision and it lost its head number

01:29:57.225 --> 01:29:58.786
[UNKNOWN]: in this fronting collision, right?

01:29:58.946 --> 01:30:01.706
[UNKNOWN]: Like in most guys, that number's gone forever.

01:30:01.906 --> 01:30:06.388
[UNKNOWN]: And so the heb hunters, they called me a few days after I got the car.

01:30:06.588 --> 01:30:10.009
[UNKNOWN]: And we were, we were stripping it down, you'll like this man.

01:30:10.029 --> 01:30:15.810
[UNKNOWN]: We took the car originally, we took the body off and put it on a 64-stammed pan with a big motor.

01:30:16.270 --> 01:30:21.352
[UNKNOWN]: And we drove it around like that for a month or two to a few shows before we took it down to restore it.

01:30:21.952 --> 01:30:22.372
[UNKNOWN]: But, um,

01:30:23.192 --> 01:30:35.227
[UNKNOWN]: When we took it down to restore it, they said, on the firewall, I don't know what you call it in a Volkswagen up there, the kick panel, right there behind the gas pedal, you know, that little flat metal piece back there, out of the gas tank.

01:30:35.467 --> 01:30:35.667
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.

01:30:36.128 --> 01:30:41.614
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, the bulkhead may be something like that, but they said, be very, very careful.

01:30:42.355 --> 01:31:03.148
[UNKNOWN]: and strip that, that undercoding down in the paint levels down and let us see if you let us know if you see a stencil in there and we started taking it down very very carefully and we found a number that was stenciled on the car that's not the head number though, but the heavier factory had burned down.

01:31:03.788 --> 01:31:12.676
[UNKNOWN]: And all the cars after all the cars after the fire they started putting this stencil up there as part of their inventory practices back then.

01:31:13.177 --> 01:31:24.087
[UNKNOWN]: And so if you if you had this number, they won't really sure how it worked at the time, but they kind of they kind of figured out that if you had this number, you were within three.

01:31:24.867 --> 01:31:25.907
[UNKNOWN]: of what that car is.

01:31:25.987 --> 01:31:35.650
[UNKNOWN]: And so that car is 387, but it could have been like 386, it could have been 388, it could have been, and Volkswagen because of the privacy laws over there, they won't.

01:31:36.791 --> 01:31:43.713
[UNKNOWN]: If you tell them I have this bin number and this motor number, they will tell you that yes, they match or know they don't.

01:31:43.993 --> 01:31:47.134
[UNKNOWN]: But if you can't provide them a motor number or if you can't provide them,

01:31:47.914 --> 01:31:50.655
[UNKNOWN]: a number they won't verify because privacy laws over there.

01:31:51.535 --> 01:31:58.037
[UNKNOWN]: And so they narrowed it down to the three, and I'm never call like one of the guys on the headhunters called me.

01:31:58.277 --> 01:32:00.958
[UNKNOWN]: They're like, all right, they're like, we're going to send in.

01:32:01.198 --> 01:32:05.559
[UNKNOWN]: We think we know it's either one of these three numbers, and you just got to pick one man.

01:32:05.619 --> 01:32:07.400
[UNKNOWN]: And if we're wrong,

01:32:08.209 --> 01:32:13.496
[UNKNOWN]: they're probably going to stop communicating with us because they're going to know that we don't have the badge or whatever to know.

01:32:14.136 --> 01:32:24.289
[UNKNOWN]: And so I'd like to do so lucky lucky lucky number seven then it's let's just go with 387 and they submitted it to the Volkswagen museum.

01:32:25.410 --> 01:32:27.952
[UNKNOWN]: And they returned it and they were like, yeah, that's the number.

01:32:28.233 --> 01:32:33.397
[UNKNOWN]: And so that's how we were able to get the have 387 back.

01:32:33.817 --> 01:32:37.280
[UNKNOWN]: And so that's a crazy story, man.

01:32:37.660 --> 01:32:40.202
[UNKNOWN]: But the heavier was the first, I built the car.

01:32:40.322 --> 01:32:41.983
[UNKNOWN]: We built a lot of our cars ourselves.

01:32:42.344 --> 01:32:47.948
[UNKNOWN]: And so me and a few guys from our car club, like one of the guys from our car club is a painter.

01:32:49.369 --> 01:32:55.820
[UNKNOWN]: You know, to be in my buddy, eating things can build anything and, um, and so we do a lot of stuff ourselves, but the, but the head needed to be done.

01:32:56.803 --> 01:33:07.830
[UNKNOWN]: by the best you know what I mean which is which is buddy and I call buddy and at the time he had never done a bare metal he's done bare metal restorations but like a bare metal show car.

01:33:08.490 --> 01:33:12.692
[UNKNOWN]: Have you seen the cars that are like bare metal but they look there's not a dent in them.

01:33:12.732 --> 01:33:16.915
[UNKNOWN]: There's not a and so buddy took this car and we got this thing down.

01:33:17.115 --> 01:33:18.996
[UNKNOWN]: I'll give you a picture to show here.

01:33:20.177 --> 01:33:23.599
[UNKNOWN]: I delivered this thing to him in like five pieces in the back of a pickup truck.

01:33:24.179 --> 01:33:32.325
[UNKNOWN]: because it was so rusty and just so messed up and Buddy took that car and we built it in bare metal and showed it.

01:33:32.445 --> 01:33:45.875
[UNKNOWN]: It actually was in one of the Vegas casinos sitting there on display, but we showed it in bare metal hot VW's multiple magazines did photoshoots on it and in bare metal.

01:33:45.895 --> 01:33:50.878
[UNKNOWN]: We built the car like the motor was bare metal, the seat frames, the rack and everything.

01:33:54.046 --> 01:34:03.792
[UNKNOWN]: And then show it and show everybody what we were we were starting from and then and then to paint the car so we just now put it in primer and but it's it's a lot of fun.

01:34:04.992 --> 01:34:09.415
[UNKNOWN]: You know the level it's managed costs a lot of money right like to take a car.

01:34:10.195 --> 01:34:18.904
[UNKNOWN]: And something that's just like a ding and set a hit with body filler, you know, the main like actually PDR and every dent out of that thing.

01:34:19.005 --> 01:34:24.791
[UNKNOWN]: And so, but we've taken that thing to probably levels that for sure another have is never never gone.

01:34:25.391 --> 01:34:35.636
[UNKNOWN]: never gone to that level, but it's been a lot of fun, and most of the history is known on that car, like it's very, very documented, even the fronting collision.

01:34:35.936 --> 01:34:39.437
[UNKNOWN]: Whenever they read it, the pan and all that stuff is all documented, it's all charming.

01:34:39.897 --> 01:34:41.218
[UNKNOWN]: Can't read it, but, but, uh,

01:34:42.892 --> 01:34:48.314
[UNKNOWN]: But it was in one collection for so long that we were able to do it.

01:34:48.354 --> 01:34:57.197
[UNKNOWN]: So that's been another level of a build that I've ever done because it's not we can't we got to be careful.

01:34:57.317 --> 01:34:57.938
[UNKNOWN]: We can't make it.

01:34:57.958 --> 01:34:58.538
[UNKNOWN]: I want to make it.

01:34:59.352 --> 01:35:06.618
[UNKNOWN]: you know, to what I enjoy and all the things, but we got to make sure that that thing still has the identity of a habit, the end of it, right?

01:35:06.938 --> 01:35:11.201
[UNKNOWN]: And so, um, and so yeah, that's that's the head story in a nutshell.

01:35:11.681 --> 01:35:13.443
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, dang, man.

01:35:14.317 --> 01:35:30.854
[UNKNOWN]: And I know there was even probably a lot more we could, you know, talk about the head right the rest of the night next I wanted to talk about I think this 51 split with your history and talking about this 3000 mile dash.

01:35:33.383 --> 01:35:33.743
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:35:34.764 --> 01:35:36.946
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's let let's talk about that.

01:35:37.026 --> 01:35:41.831
[UNKNOWN]: So the history was you found this this car on somba right.

01:35:44.353 --> 01:35:50.459
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so yeah, speed here and then this about this this yeah, just tells about the split window.

01:35:51.123 --> 01:36:11.691
[UNKNOWN]: I think this is my first, that was my first split window if my memory serves, and so up until then you had the 55 from Alan and I had a few other ovals at the same time, but this was my first split window that I ever got and it's a pretty cool car, it's a European spec.

01:36:12.451 --> 01:36:12.992
[UNKNOWN]: 51.

01:36:13.512 --> 01:36:20.456
[UNKNOWN]: Buddy Hell, the same guy that's doing my course today had built this car with my buddy Josh.

01:36:20.796 --> 01:36:27.620
[UNKNOWN]: He had built this car like probably 10 years prior to really buddy become famous and old things.

01:36:27.660 --> 01:36:29.781
[UNKNOWN]: And so it had a buddy hell paint job on it.

01:36:29.801 --> 01:36:31.462
[UNKNOWN]: So that's a good story place, right?

01:36:32.122 --> 01:36:38.964
[UNKNOWN]: And I'll tell you, dude, that car still today looks amazing, you know, probably 25-year-old paint job, still looks like a show car.

01:36:39.524 --> 01:36:46.486
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, it's just one of these examples where this thing shows up, you know, we work a deal in the middle of the night.

01:36:47.106 --> 01:36:51.587
[UNKNOWN]: I grab a buddy and we literally, we literally drive, he lives out in Western Colorado.

01:36:52.329 --> 01:36:55.950
[UNKNOWN]: And we literally drive like all night long, right?

01:36:56.111 --> 01:37:08.515
[UNKNOWN]: And the next day, to get to this thing, like, it's probably 18 hour drive just to get to the core, you know, and so we dig it out of this garage and I'm taking it to buddy for a refresh.

01:37:09.096 --> 01:37:12.417
[UNKNOWN]: And so we go from there over to Phoenix, over to Tempe,

01:37:14.002 --> 01:37:19.726
[UNKNOWN]: and delivered over to a buddy and then make it all the way back to Texas.

01:37:20.306 --> 01:37:27.731
[UNKNOWN]: It was definitely one of the scariest, like I've got some property and old historic hotel in Western Colorado now.

01:37:28.311 --> 01:37:33.894
[UNKNOWN]: And so I see these roads, we were like in the middle of the night, driving like, you know, like we were perfectly safe.

01:37:34.495 --> 01:37:40.318
[UNKNOWN]: And like I see these roads in the daytime and we were like sleepy, driving on these roads like the million dollar highway and stuff like that.

01:37:42.620 --> 01:37:44.662
[UNKNOWN]: and you'll relate to it because you understand.

01:37:44.782 --> 01:37:46.644
[UNKNOWN]: So I lived in Colorado for nine years.

01:37:46.824 --> 01:37:47.825
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

01:37:47.865 --> 01:38:01.059
[UNKNOWN]: I have two of my kids out there and I get a call from my buddy who's visiting from Florida and he's down in the the Vale Valley and he's staying in one of the one of the resorts there and he calls me and tells me it's like dude, you got to come in.

01:38:01.220 --> 01:38:02.421
[UNKNOWN]: I'm only here for three days.

01:38:02.461 --> 01:38:03.862
[UNKNOWN]: We haven't seen each other in years.

01:38:04.443 --> 01:38:05.284
[UNKNOWN]: I got my kids.

01:38:05.304 --> 01:38:06.105
[UNKNOWN]: He's got his kids.

01:38:06.125 --> 01:38:06.945
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, let's do it.

01:38:06.965 --> 01:38:07.506
[UNKNOWN]: Let's hang out.

01:38:07.546 --> 01:38:12.010
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, all right, you know, I'm, I'm used to driving in the snow in Colorado now.

01:38:12.050 --> 01:38:12.551
[UNKNOWN]: No big deal.

01:38:12.591 --> 01:38:13.051
[UNKNOWN]: I'm coming.

01:38:13.672 --> 01:38:25.183
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm in a suburban that's obviously it's got four world drive, but we get, you know, into the divide basically and it's, you know, it's pretty heavy snow, you know, at this point.

01:38:25.743 --> 01:38:47.644
[UNKNOWN]: as we get further west and further west into the into the mountain basically it's basically snow and so hard that there's there's checkpoints where you know the cops are out there making you chain tires and you know yeah yeah they're they're these checkpoints well it's snowing so hard the snow is like making you feel like you're in this like tunnel it's like blowing you

01:38:48.845 --> 01:38:55.670
[UNKNOWN]: And I know you're relating to it feels like you're in Star Wars, like one of those fighters.

01:38:55.710 --> 01:38:56.991
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:38:57.111 --> 01:39:09.060
[UNKNOWN]: So we're creeping down, you know, at one point, the elevation is pretty high and we're kind of creeping down into Vale Valley and you can't really tell where you're at because the snow is so thick, but the car is like,

01:39:10.841 --> 01:39:13.822
[UNKNOWN]: It's like one to like kind of slide off the road, right?

01:39:14.262 --> 01:39:20.085
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, I've got all four of my biological children and the back of the suburban and my wife up front.

01:39:20.545 --> 01:39:26.148
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm just acting like, you know, we're just driving on some road, like we're in, you know, Tampa, you know, no big deal.

01:39:26.168 --> 01:39:26.368
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:39:27.089 --> 01:39:32.931
[UNKNOWN]: The next day when the sun came up, and we were of conscious minds.

01:39:33.772 --> 01:39:37.914
[UNKNOWN]: And we looked off the side of that highway and saw the cliff.

01:39:38.583 --> 01:39:41.204
[UNKNOWN]: that we on the million dollar were you on the million dollar highway.

01:39:41.385 --> 01:39:46.327
[UNKNOWN]: No, we were just on whatever that man who is that goes right on you failed out.

01:39:46.407 --> 01:39:47.528
[UNKNOWN]: But dude, it's the same.

01:39:47.568 --> 01:39:48.849
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, a million dollar highway.

01:39:48.869 --> 01:39:49.349
[UNKNOWN]: Same thing.

01:39:51.290 --> 01:39:51.890
[UNKNOWN]: There's a four.

01:39:52.250 --> 01:39:53.371
[UNKNOWN]: There's not a good right there.

01:39:53.491 --> 01:39:55.892
[UNKNOWN]: You know, there's no guard real.

01:39:55.932 --> 01:39:56.853
[UNKNOWN]: No guard real.

01:39:56.873 --> 01:39:57.273
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:39:57.493 --> 01:39:59.454
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not kidding you when I say this.

01:39:59.494 --> 01:40:00.895
[UNKNOWN]: This is an honest to God truth.

01:40:01.015 --> 01:40:06.318
[UNKNOWN]: When I saw that the next day, I had like this panic in this anxiety for almost

01:40:08.228 --> 01:40:08.828
[UNKNOWN]: of the one.

01:40:08.848 --> 01:40:09.408
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, right.

01:40:09.448 --> 01:40:13.530
[UNKNOWN]: I'd be I'd be sleeping and you're like, you're like, I wake up in your.

01:40:14.030 --> 01:40:16.350
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're paired in your parenting skills.

01:40:16.370 --> 01:40:20.632
[UNKNOWN]: You're a man like I put my family and it's exactly.

01:40:21.232 --> 01:40:26.974
[UNKNOWN]: So take that story on this trip and put a trailer behind you with a Volkswagen.

01:40:27.074 --> 01:40:31.575
[UNKNOWN]: And we're going through we went through we went through the a million dollar highway.

01:40:32.115 --> 01:40:33.637
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:40:33.757 --> 01:40:38.282
[UNKNOWN]: And now that I know the area, like we didn't have to go that way, we're just following the Google map, you know the main bit.

01:40:38.462 --> 01:40:40.163
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my goodness.

01:40:40.184 --> 01:40:41.845
[UNKNOWN]: You talk about the highway 50.

01:40:43.107 --> 01:40:43.627
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, man.

01:40:43.647 --> 01:40:46.570
[UNKNOWN]: You talk about the cops and the snowed plow trucks and all the things.

01:40:46.870 --> 01:40:47.011
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:40:47.031 --> 01:40:53.978
[UNKNOWN]: We literally went through the through the snow gates and they shut the gates after we were like we can see me the rearview mirror like shut the gates and we're like.

01:40:55.127 --> 01:40:59.793
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I wonder if we like to hear it and we're going to work and we're like pulling a trailer band.

01:40:59.813 --> 01:41:03.738
[UNKNOWN]: Like that, there's nothing worse than than a car slide with a trailer behind.

01:41:03.758 --> 01:41:09.104
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, it's more, it's more weight than the car's design for.

01:41:09.145 --> 01:41:09.505
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:41:09.525 --> 01:41:10.907
[UNKNOWN]: That's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:41:11.915 --> 01:41:13.856
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and so that car I still have that car today.

01:41:14.156 --> 01:41:15.297
[UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you another fun story.

01:41:15.797 --> 01:41:19.199
[UNKNOWN]: My buddy, Ethan, that I've been talking about.

01:41:20.079 --> 01:41:22.941
[UNKNOWN]: He found a 51 Hoffman split, right?

01:41:23.041 --> 01:41:24.102
[UNKNOWN]: Mine's a Euro spec.

01:41:24.582 --> 01:41:27.583
[UNKNOWN]: Hoffman important in the States, what's a US spec split.

01:41:28.224 --> 01:41:31.265
[UNKNOWN]: And he, I was able to buy it from him.

01:41:32.086 --> 01:41:34.827
[UNKNOWN]: And with the promise that he could get it back when everyone wants.

01:41:35.468 --> 01:41:38.249
[UNKNOWN]: And these cars, when we looked at the Ben numbers,

01:41:42.775 --> 01:41:45.317
[UNKNOWN]: And like, they're both like, both like was spitting out.

01:41:45.377 --> 01:41:48.220
[UNKNOWN]: I can't remember the number of day, but it's a lot more than that, right?

01:41:48.640 --> 01:41:54.184
[UNKNOWN]: And so these cards, like, how fun is that to think that these two cars came off the line the same day?

01:41:54.204 --> 01:41:56.306
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, like probably set the parking lot.

01:41:56.867 --> 01:42:01.250
[UNKNOWN]: If I never see that again, yeah, I mean, that's crazy.

01:42:01.330 --> 01:42:08.176
[UNKNOWN]: That was one of my, that was probably my first, like, hey, man, I'm in the split club now, you know what I mean?

01:42:08.196 --> 01:42:09.417
[UNKNOWN]: Like, it took me a while to get there.

01:42:10.137 --> 01:42:22.010
[UNKNOWN]: And, but it's a, you know, interesting, interesting little club, but it's a very nuanced little car, but that yeah, was another fun fun story.

01:42:22.330 --> 01:42:23.552
[UNKNOWN]: So long trip.

01:42:24.107 --> 01:42:29.288
[UNKNOWN]: So one thing we always keep kind of coming back to is the people behind the cars.

01:42:30.689 --> 01:42:35.870
[UNKNOWN]: You say most of your best friends in the world are a result of the VW hobby.

01:42:36.130 --> 01:42:36.370
[UNKNOWN]: Right.

01:42:36.890 --> 01:42:38.230
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, almost all of them.

01:42:38.550 --> 01:42:38.870
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:42:39.450 --> 01:42:49.333
[UNKNOWN]: So in your in your story and your background, you had talked about and my, my German pronunciations probably terrible, but is it dirt,

01:42:50.867 --> 01:42:51.767
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're not coolers.

01:42:51.807 --> 01:42:52.947
[UNKNOWN]: That's the name of our product.

01:42:53.287 --> 01:42:54.288
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, not bad.

01:42:54.668 --> 01:42:56.168
[UNKNOWN]: So tell me, tell me about that club.

01:42:56.188 --> 01:42:57.348
[UNKNOWN]: What's that club mean to you?

01:42:58.148 --> 01:42:59.649
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that club is everything.

01:43:00.869 --> 01:43:02.949
[UNKNOWN]: It literally is like today.

01:43:04.050 --> 01:43:09.731
[UNKNOWN]: Even in my business today, I've got car club buddies that run businesses with me today.

01:43:10.111 --> 01:43:11.691
[UNKNOWN]: And there's been a lot of fun.

01:43:11.731 --> 01:43:15.992
[UNKNOWN]: But their love coolers was a Texas scene, you know, the main thing.

01:43:17.132 --> 01:43:27.182
[UNKNOWN]: It was a car club that was about, I think that the biggest thing was about anybody could be in the club, but you had to be willing to work on other people's stuff, right?

01:43:27.282 --> 01:43:30.285
[UNKNOWN]: And we don't charge each other to help each other, right?

01:43:30.485 --> 01:43:33.508
[UNKNOWN]: Like that was kind of a love that.

01:43:33.528 --> 01:43:41.036
[UNKNOWN]: Those were our core values, you know, and like another big one, we certainly knew how to have fun, you know the main, but when the kids are around,

01:43:42.385 --> 01:43:44.006
[UNKNOWN]: dudes know how to act, you know what I mean?

01:43:44.026 --> 01:43:50.070
[UNKNOWN]: Because, you know, we want to be a family safe environment.

01:43:50.791 --> 01:43:52.852
[UNKNOWN]: And so these guys started Houston.

01:43:53.352 --> 01:44:05.200
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, I think today, their local earth has chapters in, you know, Houston Dallas out in Arizona, California, and I'm probably missing one or two.

01:44:05.260 --> 01:44:07.161
[UNKNOWN]: But, but it's just madness.

01:44:07.181 --> 01:44:08.822
[UNKNOWN]: Really, it's really kind of a small group.

01:44:08.903 --> 01:44:09.363
[UNKNOWN]: We don't let

01:44:10.485 --> 01:44:26.368
[UNKNOWN]: Just anyone in like you have to you have to fit with us like a car clubs, a lot of times there's a lot of drama and do we just don't allow drama you know the main is version for most number one and and you know and for us like we're we'd now the people that.

01:44:27.003 --> 01:44:32.365
[UNKNOWN]: that, you know, if somebody's going to help you on your car, you need to be in a work day on that person's car, you know what I mean?

01:44:32.405 --> 01:44:36.446
[UNKNOWN]: And so we're looking for the people that are doing a lot of these people, don't have any skills.

01:44:36.466 --> 01:44:39.147
[UNKNOWN]: Like I feel sorry for the guys that actually have real skills.

01:44:39.767 --> 01:44:42.028
[UNKNOWN]: They're like, you know, painters and have like paint shops.

01:44:42.308 --> 01:44:46.529
[UNKNOWN]: Those guys, I feel like they get taken advantage of a lot, but, but our rule there is very simple.

01:44:47.069 --> 01:44:49.530
[UNKNOWN]: You know, if you leave your car in there, you got to pay them.

01:44:50.070 --> 01:44:52.512
[UNKNOWN]: but if we're all they're working on it, you know what I mean?

01:44:52.712 --> 01:44:55.094
[UNKNOWN]: Like nobody charges anybody for that stuff.

01:44:55.595 --> 01:45:00.239
[UNKNOWN]: And at the end of the work day, their shop is not your storage place.

01:45:00.299 --> 01:45:01.220
[UNKNOWN]: Like you got to take it home.

01:45:01.840 --> 01:45:02.601
[UNKNOWN]: You know, kind of a thing.

01:45:02.981 --> 01:45:06.724
[UNKNOWN]: But we built some like Duke magazine cover cars.

01:45:06.904 --> 01:45:13.390
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know, like I'm not going to say that they're on the level of buddy hell, but they're on the level of buddy hell 10 years ago.

01:45:13.410 --> 01:45:14.190
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?

01:45:14.211 --> 01:45:15.772
[UNKNOWN]: Like they're really, really, I'm proud.

01:45:16.443 --> 01:45:17.544
[UNKNOWN]: proud of some of these cars.

01:45:17.584 --> 01:45:27.093
[UNKNOWN]: But the bigger thing is there are relationships and just the connections that we have with each other's families, you know what I mean?

01:45:27.133 --> 01:45:31.077
[UNKNOWN]: Like, like, dude, I can't tell you how many people I'm uncle Elliott to, you know what I mean?

01:45:31.117 --> 01:45:33.960
[UNKNOWN]: Like, it's just, and I love that, you know what I mean?

01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:36.983
[UNKNOWN]: And so, but it's a very special car club.

01:45:37.403 --> 01:45:41.026
[UNKNOWN]: And it's mainly, mainly it started in Texas and the ones that

01:45:41.867 --> 01:45:49.879
[UNKNOWN]: or outside of Texas, Texas got moved to California, kind of thing, you know, but it's near and dear to my heart.

01:45:50.620 --> 01:45:57.830
[UNKNOWN]: And I can't think of any, those were my dear friends that I have from that, you know, from that club and in the hobby.

01:45:58.191 --> 01:45:58.411
[UNKNOWN]: So,

01:45:59.708 --> 01:46:13.035
[UNKNOWN]: and then touching on, you know, the family aspect of it, you know, legacy next generation, you know, types of both of your kids now work with you in business, right?

01:46:13.075 --> 01:46:13.595
[UNKNOWN]: Did I get it?

01:46:13.816 --> 01:46:14.036
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:46:14.816 --> 01:46:15.156
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:46:15.196 --> 01:46:15.356
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:46:15.376 --> 01:46:16.117
[UNKNOWN]: That's a body.

01:46:16.717 --> 01:46:16.877
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:46:16.897 --> 01:46:18.378
[UNKNOWN]: Did you intentionally do that?

01:46:18.418 --> 01:46:21.820
[UNKNOWN]: Did you build something that that you could bring them into, you know, be a part of?

01:46:21.940 --> 01:46:22.080
[UNKNOWN]: I.

01:46:23.045 --> 01:46:28.086
[UNKNOWN]: No, I didn't, and I've always been very, I don't want my dreams to have to be there dreams, right?

01:46:28.146 --> 01:46:41.350
[UNKNOWN]: And so, I very, I was very careful about about bringing them into the business and, and me and my son, he, like I said, he, he mode 30 yards a week.

01:46:42.350 --> 01:46:45.773
[UNKNOWN]: from 12 years old all the way to use a sophomore in college, you know what I mean?

01:46:45.793 --> 01:46:49.576
[UNKNOWN]: So, you had more money than most of the adults that I knew, you know what I mean?

01:46:49.616 --> 01:46:58.443
[UNKNOWN]: And so, but I taught him how to run business, and I taught him a lot of things, and, and I let him come to me, you know what I mean is, is, uh,

01:46:59.291 --> 01:47:03.355
[UNKNOWN]: I really didn't push him because I didn't want, I didn't want from my dreams.

01:47:03.395 --> 01:47:19.348
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't want to be that dad, if he will, you know, and even with my daughter, I had her out doing Uber Eats, you know, just trying not to bring her into the business and then she wouldn't have it or brothers there as she's coming.

01:47:19.708 --> 01:47:23.690
[UNKNOWN]: He's going to have the memories driving a Volkswagen around though.

01:47:23.730 --> 01:47:27.432
[UNKNOWN]: So she drives a little she drives a little GTI today.

01:47:27.452 --> 01:47:30.894
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, she's always coming to me down like dad.

01:47:30.914 --> 01:47:32.715
[UNKNOWN]: I want to downpipe and dad.

01:47:33.196 --> 01:47:35.857
[UNKNOWN]: I want to get I want to get these lower in springs and you know what I mean?

01:47:35.897 --> 01:47:39.819
[UNKNOWN]: She's got so many things and my son my son has one.

01:47:39.839 --> 01:47:41.640
[UNKNOWN]: Your grab does he?

01:47:41.881 --> 01:47:43.081
[UNKNOWN]: He's got an MK 7.5.

01:47:43.121 --> 01:47:43.261
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:47:44.582 --> 01:48:00.197
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, my daughters is like a 2014, I think, but it's it's my son will I see him kind of gravitating to like he'll for sure like if if I fell over dead tomorrow like he'll make sure and hang on to that van again that we took that trip in.

01:48:00.297 --> 01:48:05.842
[UNKNOWN]: I had my dad to make him like like that's you know the main like like like that's cool.

01:48:06.423 --> 01:48:08.345
[UNKNOWN]: My daughter you know the main like like

01:48:09.025 --> 01:48:17.067
[UNKNOWN]: I hadn't really got my rules all the way together, but my wife is like, like, when I die, you know, number one locked the door.

01:48:17.087 --> 01:48:20.928
[UNKNOWN]: Like everybody else showed up to get good stuff.

01:48:20.988 --> 01:48:31.431
[UNKNOWN]: But but you know, I want my, you know, I want my kids to have something, but I don't, man, they don't, they don't need to keep this big mess of those ligands, you know, for sure.

01:48:31.851 --> 01:48:32.091
[UNKNOWN]: So,

01:48:32.811 --> 01:48:53.746
[UNKNOWN]: I want to touch on that because that's, you know, kind of toward the, what kind of call this, like, what wind and down the discussion, but, you know, for Murray, you were talking and saying that, you know, your goals eventually to get your collection down to, you know, kind of a manageable number of cars, you know, what is, what is a manageable number?

01:48:53.786 --> 01:48:54.966
[UNKNOWN]: Is that you said 50 cars?

01:48:55.247 --> 01:48:56.187
[UNKNOWN]: I holding is that.

01:48:56.227 --> 01:48:59.269
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think it's probably not even 50.

01:48:59.309 --> 01:49:00.911
[UNKNOWN]: It's probably like more like, you know,

01:49:02.110 --> 01:49:18.358
[UNKNOWN]: He's the thing, all these like really old historical cars, I'll keep those and I'll get them out and take them to shows and so like I'll keep those, but those are more like when people come here, I want them to see something that they just can't see anywhere else, right?

01:49:18.398 --> 01:49:27.942
[UNKNOWN]: And so I'll keep those cars and then I'm other than that, it's got to be cars that I can enjoy and drive and so I think that the numbers probably, you know, I've got a full-time mechanic

01:49:30.408 --> 01:49:37.572
[UNKNOWN]: And I think number, you know, is probably, you know, 45 or something like that is what I want to get.

01:49:38.272 --> 01:49:40.833
[UNKNOWN]: I want to get it down to, you know what I mean?

01:49:40.973 --> 01:49:45.256
[UNKNOWN]: And, and I think that, you know, of that, you know, the historic ones, you know what I mean?

01:49:45.276 --> 01:49:51.819
[UNKNOWN]: We drain all the fuel out of those anyway and try to take all the fluids out of them, you know, so that you can get them started later anyway.

01:49:51.859 --> 01:49:54.861
[UNKNOWN]: But, but of that, you know what I mean?

01:49:54.881 --> 01:49:57.222
[UNKNOWN]: Like they got to be able to get in and drive.

01:49:58.137 --> 01:50:18.757
[UNKNOWN]: and just go and enjoy you know and so and so probably get it down down to that number and then you don't want very specific instructions on with my wife with you know what happens to them after that you know and so yeah there are still any Volkswagen's out there that you're that you're still hunting for.

01:50:20.032 --> 01:50:42.866
[UNKNOWN]: Man, I'll always tell you no, but I mean, I just bought that until they find it until they find it until they find me man, you know, the main like, you know, I think that a couple of cars that I don't have a KDF is still on my list, some of those KDF though have such such nasty history, like I did have an opportunity.

01:50:44.567 --> 01:50:50.730
[UNKNOWN]: to have one, but dude, it was like the guard vehicle around like a holocaust, like like camp.

01:50:50.850 --> 01:50:55.532
[UNKNOWN]: You want to mean like, and I was like, I don't know, I can't, you know, I can't have that one here.

01:50:55.592 --> 01:50:56.773
[UNKNOWN]: You want to mean kind of a thing.

01:50:56.813 --> 01:51:02.535
[UNKNOWN]: But to, you know, Katie, but Katie, of course, I'd like to have one of those.

01:51:02.595 --> 01:51:10.299
[UNKNOWN]: I think if one of those came along, I think that a, trying to think, man, like there's

01:51:12.485 --> 01:51:15.987
[UNKNOWN]: that I don't already probably have, you know what I mean?

01:51:16.848 --> 01:51:20.850
[UNKNOWN]: And so KDF is one that if it came along, I'd probably be all about that.

01:51:20.870 --> 01:51:25.633
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe a Denzel is another coach built car, this similar to the Dan and Howard.

01:51:27.194 --> 01:51:31.437
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I'd like to, there's always say this wrong, but it's like a real match or something like that.

01:51:31.537 --> 01:51:32.837
[UNKNOWN]: It's another coach built car.

01:51:33.838 --> 01:51:37.500
[UNKNOWN]: I'd like to have, I'd like to have one of those, like a B-scow or something like that.

01:51:38.261 --> 01:51:40.222
[UNKNOWN]: But I mean, to be honest with you, man,

01:51:41.454 --> 01:51:47.708
[UNKNOWN]: Like there's not a lot, you know, to mean that that until it finds me to your point.

01:51:48.089 --> 01:51:48.309
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:51:48.630 --> 01:51:50.454
[UNKNOWN]: So when you're when you're 80.

01:51:50.534 --> 01:51:50.634
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:51:53.362 --> 01:51:54.942
[UNKNOWN]: because we know you're gonna make it that long.

01:51:54.962 --> 01:52:01.823
[UNKNOWN]: When you're 80 and somebody asks you why, why'd you spend your whole life chasing Volkswagen around the world?

01:52:01.924 --> 01:52:03.184
[UNKNOWN]: What do you think you're gonna tell them?

01:52:03.524 --> 01:52:04.884
[UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna tell them, it's cause of the people.

01:52:05.524 --> 01:52:11.465
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the people that are in the Volkswagen scene, they're just, they're the dearest people that I know.

01:52:11.965 --> 01:52:15.066
[UNKNOWN]: And like, and so that's what it's all about for me.

01:52:15.226 --> 01:52:17.486
[UNKNOWN]: It's not even about the car, it's about the people.

01:52:17.806 --> 01:52:19.007
[UNKNOWN]: That is so awesome, man.

01:52:19.727 --> 01:52:20.047
[UNKNOWN]: So you,

01:52:21.732 --> 01:52:33.663
[UNKNOWN]: where you're at now, what you've accomplished in your collection, everything in life, if you could go back to that 15-year-old kid sitting on milk crates in that 66 beetle, what are you going to tell them?

01:52:33.783 --> 01:52:34.964
[UNKNOWN]: What advice are you going to give him?

01:52:35.405 --> 01:52:45.073
[UNKNOWN]: Picture breaks, got to have breaks and you need, you need good winch, you'll winch your wiper's, the, um, yeah, that kid was a knucklehead,

01:52:47.633 --> 01:53:15.809
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I got a lot of advice for that young guy, but I've been blessed with more, and I don't know why, but I've been blessed the way that I have, I don't think that I deserve any of it, but I've been blessed and I just, and they, that 15 year old kid, if you looked at like the stuff in this shop today, when I say broke, you don't even know how broke, like they, we lived in a one room house.

01:53:16.480 --> 01:53:43.587
[UNKNOWN]: Me and my brother lived in a pool behind trailer in the driveway, my sister and little sister and brother lived on the pull out couch in the living room, my mom and dad got the bedroom and my mom he did water and and your motivation to get out of bed is to get the clean water in the tub right like like that's that's how where I came from you know and so I feel like some of and you hear this a lot right like by some of the the the most blessed.

01:53:44.490 --> 01:54:00.181
[UNKNOWN]: You know, people that you come across and you have conversations with a lot of times it is that type of of an upringing and a story and it I think that might be where some of that natural grind, you know, my yeah I

01:54:01.370 --> 01:54:02.371
[UNKNOWN]: I think for sure.

01:54:02.791 --> 01:54:11.177
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't even know really what I'm trying to say, but I know there's a lot of struggle and trying them in a lot of success, right?

01:54:11.337 --> 01:54:14.439
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think that's what I've got to have that great.

01:54:15.100 --> 01:54:18.142
[UNKNOWN]: You do and I think about regularly, you know, how do you.

01:54:18.857 --> 01:54:36.858
[UNKNOWN]: How am I going to make sure my son he'll never have have the just the beads that I had right like he'll just never have it right and but I've made I've made sure that he respects yeah hard work I've made sure that he knows how to work or he works harder than almost anybody that I know.

01:54:38.339 --> 01:54:47.983
[UNKNOWN]: But I think that the big thing is for me, it is a found out early in life that money doesn't make you happy.

01:54:48.783 --> 01:54:51.064
[UNKNOWN]: It's not, I don't do it for money.

01:54:51.445 --> 01:54:54.766
[UNKNOWN]: And so, and you can throw as much money as you want to in the hole.

01:54:54.866 --> 01:54:57.207
[UNKNOWN]: And if that hole is not going to fill the hole, you know.

01:54:57.227 --> 01:54:59.448
[UNKNOWN]: And so, it's in my world.

01:54:59.628 --> 01:55:00.329
[UNKNOWN]: It's my faith.

01:55:00.709 --> 01:55:01.189
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?

01:55:01.209 --> 01:55:02.810
[UNKNOWN]: It's my marriage, it's my family.

01:55:03.650 --> 01:55:17.580
[UNKNOWN]: And it's my friends and it's the legacy that I leave behind and the imprint on people and people's lives, you know that I'm like I get more today because I was really I was really trying to like find myself a few years ago.

01:55:17.600 --> 01:55:25.245
[UNKNOWN]: I was like man like and a buddy of mine like really you know said something that resonated with me and he just said he's like man.

01:55:25.766 --> 01:55:28.688
[UNKNOWN]: Do you realize the positive impact that you've had?

01:55:29.469 --> 01:55:38.491
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, you just sort of naming people that own successful businesses today or that there's somewhere in their life today and it's because of their little pit stop with me.

01:55:38.831 --> 01:55:44.232
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, and they'd I take more pride in that than anything that I have.

01:55:44.352 --> 01:55:52.374
[UNKNOWN]: Like, because for me, man, like, man, this stuff, you know, man, how many batteries do I got to keep up with the tires and brakes?

01:55:52.434 --> 01:55:53.074
[UNKNOWN]: And you know what I mean?

01:55:53.094 --> 01:55:54.654
[UNKNOWN]: Like, it's, it's um,

01:55:58.935 --> 01:56:01.976
[UNKNOWN]: in the impact on those people that I have.

01:56:02.016 --> 01:56:04.077
[UNKNOWN]: That's my, that's the legacy thing.

01:56:04.137 --> 01:56:07.599
[UNKNOWN]: But I know what you're talking about, like that hunger and that grind.

01:56:07.679 --> 01:56:07.939
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.

01:56:08.099 --> 01:56:08.379
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.

01:56:08.579 --> 01:56:15.383
[UNKNOWN]: Most of the crazy, most of the crazy successful people that you meet out there at very similar stories to me, you know, Ryan just wrote

01:56:16.303 --> 01:56:17.043
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I was saying.

01:56:17.264 --> 01:56:20.486
[UNKNOWN]: It was hard for me to put it in the words, you know, and I'll be honest man.

01:56:20.526 --> 01:56:25.449
[UNKNOWN]: I don't come from from from that, you know, I mean, you know, father was very successful.

01:56:25.549 --> 01:56:33.994
[UNKNOWN]: However, I grew up in a time where I had to hold a brothers and they were very competitive and they they never let me win ever.

01:56:34.814 --> 01:56:40.980
[UNKNOWN]: So, from a young age, I moved out when I was 17, you know, from a young age, I was pushed.

01:56:41.060 --> 01:56:58.976
[UNKNOWN]: I was forced to win and that made me so competitive and that made me, you know, naturally work in sales and then I dominated sales and then I became sales trainer and, you know, did that as a profession for 15 years and, you know, that carries over into my real estate career, you know, with that,

01:57:00.073 --> 01:57:04.677
[UNKNOWN]: just born in ability of, you know, communication.

01:57:05.037 --> 01:57:07.900
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm not afraid of big figures.

01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:17.628
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, just those, those small things, those all come from from my experience and my, my childhood, you know, yeah, I think, I think this will resonate with you.

01:57:18.169 --> 01:57:19.950
[UNKNOWN]: I told my son when I was raising him, I said,

01:57:20.671 --> 01:57:27.474
[UNKNOWN]: There's two career paths that you can go either have to own the business number one, or number two, you have to be at sales.

01:57:27.554 --> 01:57:31.676
[UNKNOWN]: Because like those are the only two things where you, you determine what your destiny is.

01:57:31.756 --> 01:57:35.738
[UNKNOWN]: If you want to, you want to, you want to, you want some more money next month, you just sell them.

01:57:35.778 --> 01:57:36.998
[UNKNOWN]: But you want to sell them.

01:57:37.018 --> 01:57:37.819
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?

01:57:38.259 --> 01:57:45.502
[UNKNOWN]: All of all of my businesses have been sales centered businesses, like very high touch, very high activity for me.

01:57:45.862 --> 01:57:46.582
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, performance.

01:57:46.602 --> 01:57:47.083
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:57:47.163 --> 01:57:49.004
[UNKNOWN]: So I, that resonates with me a lot.

01:57:49.164 --> 01:57:50.264
[UNKNOWN]: Like, but that's funny.

01:57:50.304 --> 01:57:53.146
[UNKNOWN]: My son knows like sales or you have to own the business.

01:57:53.166 --> 01:57:54.146
[UNKNOWN]: So you're two options.

01:57:54.567 --> 01:57:56.528
[UNKNOWN]: Don't care what the business is, but that's it.

01:57:56.948 --> 01:58:00.750
[UNKNOWN]: So it's funny because, you know, it's funny, watch this connection.

01:58:01.410 --> 01:58:18.225
[UNKNOWN]: So because of my life and the way that I've had to struggle in my life and the way that I've had to start from the bottom so many times, especially because there's no college degree, you know, so I've had to get in, take the job, start at the bottom, prove myself and how perform the entire team before they'd give me a seat at the table.

01:58:18.906 --> 01:58:21.428
[UNKNOWN]: I told my kids, you're never doing sales.

01:58:21.488 --> 01:58:26.853
[UNKNOWN]: Instead, you're allowed to enter the trades, because I have been, I have been banned,

01:58:27.253 --> 01:58:48.780
[UNKNOWN]: grades companies for the last years of my professional career, working with contractors, plumbers, electricians, HVAC companies, and these guys are creating generational wealth, but being in a plumber that ends up with a retail company, so my kids are entering trade school, ones become here.

01:58:48.860 --> 01:58:50.961
[UNKNOWN]: You're so on it, you're so on it, maybe.

01:58:51.021 --> 01:58:56.463
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to have them dominate and have a business right here in their hometown where they're fourth generation,

01:58:56.943 --> 01:58:59.384
[UNKNOWN]: where they can create their own paycheck.

01:59:00.224 --> 01:59:02.105
[UNKNOWN]: Because AI can't ever fix the toilet.

01:59:02.125 --> 01:59:07.026
[UNKNOWN]: You know, the main lease that I'm not going to be able to, you know, you know, no, but you're right.

01:59:07.246 --> 01:59:09.987
[UNKNOWN]: No, they're safe in the trades.

01:59:10.628 --> 01:59:12.828
[UNKNOWN]: Do the people that are scared now are like attorneys.

01:59:12.848 --> 01:59:14.189
[UNKNOWN]: You know, the main like it's almost like.

01:59:14.229 --> 01:59:14.469
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:59:15.317 --> 01:59:18.179
[UNKNOWN]: because you can put a document in in chat.

01:59:18.199 --> 01:59:23.163
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:59:23.583 --> 01:59:24.463
[UNKNOWN]: It's crazy man.

01:59:24.503 --> 01:59:26.825
[UNKNOWN]: So I think you're on your own.

01:59:27.205 --> 01:59:28.666
[UNKNOWN]: Even the attorneys are using AI.

01:59:30.320 --> 01:59:33.123
[UNKNOWN]: right and they're like, hey, I got a depot or something coming.

01:59:33.143 --> 01:59:35.204
[UNKNOWN]: They're like, I don't want to read all this man here.

01:59:35.745 --> 01:59:37.686
[UNKNOWN]: Take this and give me the bullet points.

01:59:37.887 --> 01:59:40.329
[UNKNOWN]: You know, 100, 100%.

01:59:40.929 --> 01:59:43.111
[UNKNOWN]: Now I love the trades.

01:59:43.852 --> 01:59:44.973
[UNKNOWN]: Me too.

01:59:45.353 --> 01:59:48.315
[UNKNOWN]: I've got a close place in my heart for the trades because

01:59:49.076 --> 01:59:52.258
[UNKNOWN]: When, uh, so, you know, I've always been in a round business.

01:59:52.278 --> 01:59:57.281
[UNKNOWN]: Like, like, you don't know my whole past, but I'll take you back, uh, let's see, just a 2011.

01:59:57.802 --> 01:59:59.723
[UNKNOWN]: And 2011, I actually entered the trades.

01:59:59.743 --> 02:00:07.568
[UNKNOWN]: I had a fitness company that I started that was in between Colorado, New Mexico, Florida, and Seattle, and Washington State.

02:00:08.548 --> 02:00:10.470
[UNKNOWN]: And I had about 32 club locations.

02:00:10.550 --> 02:00:11.470
[UNKNOWN]: I ended up selling.

02:00:11.730 --> 02:00:14.072
[UNKNOWN]: And I moved back to Florida, 2011.

02:00:15.813 --> 02:00:18.614
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like shoot man, I got a pocket full of money.

02:00:18.654 --> 02:00:20.134
[UNKNOWN]: Like what do I want to do when I grow up?

02:00:20.234 --> 02:00:27.015
[UNKNOWN]: I got four kids, you know, like I've got this opportunity to kind of hit reset, like, you know, what am I going to get into?

02:00:27.255 --> 02:00:33.616
[UNKNOWN]: I got into HVAC and I had a buddy that was selling HVAC equipment in Tampa.

02:00:34.216 --> 02:00:38.377
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, he was crushing it for a trade guy.

02:00:38.397 --> 02:00:40.817
[UNKNOWN]: He was making north of 250, you know, annually.

02:00:40.857 --> 02:00:43.718
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, bro, here's what I'm actually more

02:00:44.728 --> 02:00:48.885
[UNKNOWN]: appeal, the more the appeal for me was, who can afford to pay you that?

02:00:49.631 --> 02:00:58.018
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because the margin, I know understand business, the margins have to be strenuous for somebody to be able to pay you that as a paycheck.

02:00:58.078 --> 02:01:03.262
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm actually really intrigued by this by this business model and I want to get into it.

02:01:03.322 --> 02:01:14.010
[UNKNOWN]: So I did and then I dominated that and then and you know turn turn myself into you know more of a consultant that traveled to these multiple trades companies over the years.

02:01:15.171 --> 02:01:24.035
[UNKNOWN]: I've been fortunate enough to sit with owners and their teams and teach their technicians how to create success in the house That's basically my background.

02:01:24.055 --> 02:01:33.198
[UNKNOWN]: That's what that's what I've done So my kids have seen that and they've been able to see me coach all these companies and they're like dad We're getting into the damn trades.

02:01:33.278 --> 02:01:36.659
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, yes, you are I think we what you're doing.

02:01:36.699 --> 02:01:37.340
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, man.

02:01:37.440 --> 02:01:37.640
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah

02:01:38.200 --> 02:01:42.383
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I definitely have opinions there, but you're on all of them.

02:01:43.403 --> 02:01:56.972
[UNKNOWN]: So, so you've gone from this kid obsessed with Hot BWs to, you know, the owner of what I would call one of the most historically significant private Volkswagen collections that I personally ever heard of, right?

02:01:57.373 --> 02:01:57.713
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

02:01:58.093 --> 02:02:03.517
[UNKNOWN]: One thing that stands out isn't the number of cars or even the types of cars that you have.

02:02:03.577 --> 02:02:03.677
[UNKNOWN]: It's

02:02:04.337 --> 02:02:13.822
[UNKNOWN]: It's the stories that you've told us about the people, it's about the ridiculous adventures that surround, you know, what, what, what you bring to the table.

02:02:13.882 --> 02:02:22.807
[UNKNOWN]: So before we wrap this thing up and I let you go, tell me this, tell the listeners this, where can people follow the vansal collection?

02:02:22.847 --> 02:02:24.108
[UNKNOWN]: Where can they see the cars?

02:02:24.148 --> 02:02:30.712
[UNKNOWN]: Where can they, uh, hell, maybe even connect with you if, if, if, if that's even possible.

02:02:31.870 --> 02:02:32.070
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

02:02:32.250 --> 02:02:32.450
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

02:02:32.831 --> 02:02:42.015
[UNKNOWN]: You can go to thevancealcollection.com and we're in the process of a pretty funny with AI.

02:02:42.375 --> 02:02:45.557
[UNKNOWN]: I've built a piece of software to help me manage this collection.

02:02:46.157 --> 02:02:48.058
[UNKNOWN]: And it's got a front-hand website.

02:02:48.399 --> 02:02:48.499
[UNKNOWN]: And

02:02:49.499 --> 02:02:56.745
[UNKNOWN]: And so we're slowly but surely getting all the cars up there with their stories and all the things.

02:02:56.845 --> 02:02:58.807
[UNKNOWN]: And so that's probably first and foremost.

02:02:58.907 --> 02:03:07.173
[UNKNOWN]: And you can find me on Instagram, I'm a VW hoarder on an Instagram and I really advanced on Facebook and so.

02:03:07.654 --> 02:03:08.955
[UNKNOWN]: And if you're a VW person,

02:03:16.220 --> 02:03:20.403
[UNKNOWN]: And over the years, I've wound up with a bunch of odd rare parts.

02:03:20.483 --> 02:03:27.588
[UNKNOWN]: And so, you know, if you're looking for stuff for your builder, whatever, if I don't have it, you know what I mean, then I probably know who does.

02:03:27.768 --> 02:03:31.850
[UNKNOWN]: And so, but I love just giving back to the community like that.

02:03:32.711 --> 02:03:43.218
[UNKNOWN]: And what should the VW world be watching out for coming from you or coming out of your collection or really just what's coming next for the chief order in charge?

02:03:45.501 --> 02:03:53.683
[UNKNOWN]: Um, yeah, I mean, obviously the heavier is going to be, I think it's going to be my, probably the final.

02:03:54.331 --> 02:03:56.732
[UNKNOWN]: of the holy cow builds, you know what I mean?

02:03:56.752 --> 02:04:03.053
[UNKNOWN]: Like we're gonna grant grand national roadster show and go after some cool competitions.

02:04:03.153 --> 02:04:06.254
[UNKNOWN]: And so from a build perspective, it's probably that car.

02:04:07.294 --> 02:04:14.276
[UNKNOWN]: And I think after that, I think it's probably, you're gonna start seeing some cars, you know, moving out of the collection.

02:04:15.076 --> 02:04:21.097
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, if you're a flipper, don't even call, you know what I'm looking for the 16 year old kid,

02:04:24.478 --> 02:04:31.765
[UNKNOWN]: You know, and I think about that because you said that earlier and I think about that and I think about what I paid for my first beetle, you know, two grand.

02:04:31.785 --> 02:04:31.925
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

02:04:32.786 --> 02:04:41.555
[UNKNOWN]: And then I think to myself, you know, damn man, you know, they they make it so tough for kids these days, you know, to make it in this world and and.

02:04:41.995 --> 02:04:44.396
[UNKNOWN]: have what we had when we were growing up, et cetera.

02:04:44.937 --> 02:04:48.038
[UNKNOWN]: And you even said this and hit it on the head too earlier.

02:04:48.518 --> 02:04:52.860
[UNKNOWN]: The cars that they're collecting now are the MK ones.

02:04:52.960 --> 02:04:55.422
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're certainly jettas and a lot of the war.

02:04:55.442 --> 02:04:56.102
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the loot.

02:04:56.577 --> 02:05:00.401
[UNKNOWN]: Those are classes of ours now, they're 20 years old, right?

02:05:00.502 --> 02:05:09.392
[UNKNOWN]: I think that like that little, that little, that's a Callaway, you know, MK1, that thing's a little hard rod.

02:05:09.412 --> 02:05:11.554
[UNKNOWN]: But if you to told me that would have been collectible.

02:05:11.895 --> 02:05:12.435
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?

02:05:13.056 --> 02:05:15.018
[UNKNOWN]: But my point was the kids, the kids.

02:05:16.092 --> 02:05:29.702
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I love what you're saying when you're saying, you know, I want the 16 year old kids to end up with, you know, with some of these cars, but it's like, you know, Dang man, it's going to be so tough for them to afford these, you know, it is.

02:05:29.882 --> 02:05:30.082
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

02:05:30.402 --> 02:05:33.945
[UNKNOWN]: And that's that kind of like, dang it, you know, for for me.

02:05:34.165 --> 02:05:38.308
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, for me for me, that's that's why, you know, it's not about the money.

02:05:38.888 --> 02:05:39.088
[UNKNOWN]: Right.

02:05:39.108 --> 02:05:40.209
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I rather than give that.

02:05:40.289 --> 02:05:41.829
[UNKNOWN]: I appreciate that so much.

02:05:41.889 --> 02:05:44.151
[UNKNOWN]: I really do rather than give a give a guy that's got money.

02:05:44.371 --> 02:05:45.191
[UNKNOWN]: You want to mean a car.

02:06:00.918 --> 02:06:02.299
[UNKNOWN]: and take a bath on it.

02:06:02.359 --> 02:06:05.361
[UNKNOWN]: I'd rather take a real bath and give it to a 16 year old kid.

02:06:05.381 --> 02:06:09.083
[UNKNOWN]: You're the main that's gonna work on it.

02:06:09.424 --> 02:06:10.524
[UNKNOWN]: You're one of a kind man.

02:06:10.964 --> 02:06:14.206
[UNKNOWN]: And that's a wrap for this episode of Dub Life Diaries.

02:06:14.807 --> 02:06:20.350
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks for riding along with us and diving into these incredible stories of the people in the Dub that drive their dreams.

02:06:20.930 --> 02:06:26.494
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[UNKNOWN]: Do you have a story to tell or know somebody else who's living the dub life?

02:06:31.158 --> 02:06:31.498
[UNKNOWN]: Awesome.

02:06:31.919 --> 02:06:32.679
[UNKNOWN]: Reach out to us.

02:06:32.839 --> 02:06:35.542
[UNKNOWN]: You can find us on all socials and dub life diaries.

02:06:36.063 --> 02:06:37.364
[UNKNOWN]: Or shoot me an email.

02:06:37.604 --> 02:06:38.505
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not hard to find.

02:06:38.905 --> 02:06:41.428
[UNKNOWN]: Double life diaries at gmail.com.

02:06:41.928 --> 02:06:47.673
[UNKNOWN]: Until next time, keep the engine tummen and the wheels turning and always follow the road that inspires you.

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[UNKNOWN]: This is Joe Person.

02:06:49.295 --> 02:06:50.136
[UNKNOWN]: I'm signing off.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'll catch you on the next ride.