From Skate Parks to Dubsplash: Mark Laue’s Journey Through VW Culture Ep79

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is gonna be an awesome one, all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want you to picture this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A kid falls in love with three things, all right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Skateboarding, hockey, and old Volkswagen's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, most people probably grow out of at least one of them you think, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not my next guest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He built the life around all three of them, all right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the guy behind Dubb Splash, one of the country's premier Volkswagen lifestyle events, bringing together thousands of enthusiasts,

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[SPEAKER_01]: who speak the universal language of air-cooled engines, custom builds and road trips, but that's only half the story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: While he's been building one of the biggest names in the VW community, he's also been creating places where kids can find purpose through skateboarding, confidence through community and opportunities that can change the direction of their lives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's proof that the best businesses aren't built around products, they're actually built around people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Today we're talking about the evolution of Volkswagen culture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What it really takes to build and nationally recognized event, the parallels between skate parks and car shows, entrepreneurship, community, and why follow in the things that you genuinely love, can end up creating something far bigger than you ever imagined.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whether you're into Volkswagen's skateboarding, business, or if you just like here in stories behind the people who build incredible communities, you are going to love this episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is Dublife Dyeries, and today I'm joined by the founder of Dubb Splash, a community builder and a lifelong VW enthusiast, Mark Laui, welcome to Dublife Dyeries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, you're so welcome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate you coming on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Took us a little bit to get this ironed out, but dude, you're a super busy guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just appreciate your time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about where it all started, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to know who you are, all right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me about growing up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What kind of a kid were you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Growing up, a group had some years in Houston, which was skateboarding, right back in the early 80s, when skateboarding started popping off, and then my father got a job at an upland California, which was the home or the upland pipeline, which was the skateboarding mecca of anything, the whole world at that point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right down the street from the owners of the pipeline and my brothers were skateboarders and we just jumped right in from the fourth grade in Southern California.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was crazy growing up in Southern California back then compared to like we even watching you know what I raised in my kids today like I was fourth fifth sixth Frater and we were taking the bus up and down losing down You know you could pull of already an upland like hauling ass We were jumping 10 foot bar wire fences go and skating the baldy pipe like which is this huge like Trainage ditch pipe and then obviously the bumping pipe line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was nuts

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hell yeah, it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I look back in my life too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was I also grew up skating west coast of Florida not necessarily west coast of the United States, but you know, we had a pretty bang and seen here as far as skating and surfing goes, but talking about skateboarding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to know you say it's about fourth fifth grade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How did skateboarding really grab your attention at first was this because you had some older brothers or like how did skateboarding really grab your attention?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was older brothers and I mean, I did traditional sports to my dad's original sports guy baseball coach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He coached me in baseball and those early elementary years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And skateboard just said, you get out and do it by yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're obviously with your friends too, and growing down your cruise around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can just, you know, back then you're just rolling around the neighborhood to do whatever you want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not a traditional sport.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was great about being in Southern California at that time in, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: 80s to the early to mid 90s when I finished off high school with growing in that culture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the Volkswagen's back then too, like so much fun, you know, I would go to my friend's house and live down the street.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And his dad was building a 69 square back in the garage, but he had stacks of VW magazines.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I would just go to that for school, read the ads, like back then you're like, you don't have the internet back then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're looking through all the ads, look at what's for sale, how much shit is, and just really paying attention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I grew up on that at my buddy built lecture house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was so much fun every day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's going on?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care what you guys are doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at magazines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So how old were you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like what what point was that in your life when Volkswagen's really started to enter the picture?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was probably right around 13 years old when we were cruising to build South South every after school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember that we would always be, we skated the students house after school and I'd always go by like, you see, there's one dude had a bay window, there's other dude had, I always see what that garage was up, like an old Kia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And eventually, after a couple of years, I talked this dude in the cell in me as 58 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just turned 16 or so damn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I bought it, to pick it home, it was,

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[SPEAKER_00]: rust that out, but it looked great from the outside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was lipstick on and pig, but you weren't even bolted in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember driving this 68K that had like monster 2100, 2080 in it, 48's driving it down, just barely got it started, dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is like a set from 13 to 16 years old looking at this thing in this guy's garage when I was in the garage, I was finally got the suit to sell it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they actually turned out to be my third Volkswagen, I can buy that Tom, I got him to sell to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So from 16 to 17, I had three Volkswagen's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was the actual first one?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, unfortunately, my dad had trust me that I could figure out how to fix a whole swag and not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I really had a chance at a 63 rag that was mid-green with a white wall on and this custom hood that had a mechanism to pull folded it forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's super sick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it wasn't wired up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I missed out on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My dad wouldn't let me get that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I ended up getting a 64 from the old man that owned the old Volkswagen shop and downtown upland.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're talking about your dad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious to know, did your parents encourage your hobbies or did they think, you know, at 16, you already want and, you know, these old cars, you know, they weren't cool yet, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were just old cars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, did they encourage you or did they think you were crazy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, my dad actually, my parents were phenomenal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, but they grew up in Redondo Beach, California.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had a Volkswagen when they were young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My dad loved the things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've got pictures of those with them with their Volkswagen when they first met in the high school so they were all about it But you just didn't he my dad was like the most amazing dude ever like he could you know a banker vice president a bank big big Wicked, but he he wouldn't change the tire my mom was one that changed the tires like on the car like my mom drove I'm not my dad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm a dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's so cool, man So they're definitely encouraging in every possible way, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't believe that I could wire that thing up yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he definitely prior to his passing this last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He definitely saw me do a lot of stuff that he was, didn't think I would ever be able to do it 16.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But so let's talk on that for a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the teenage years, how much time was spent in garages versus at the skate park?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we skated every day after school, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I would build in their

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[SPEAKER_00]: building the driveway or I could control the garage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had seven brothers and sisters growing up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was like some brandy bunch stuff going down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, in the past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's in the water off there in Southern Cali?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Apparently not rubbers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Big family and I was the only Volkswagen dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was only my brother's skateboarding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But 103 brothers did skateboard and he got me into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, we were building cars in the driveway and then just skating all over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'd do it up the street.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had the empty swimming pool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we learned to skate it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We skated up in that thing, but we're also playing hockey in the streets and then driving our Volkswagen's down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had to, my high school grew.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were called ourselves the Mickey's Boys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We all had Volkswagen's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if anyone knows up the California that area back then there was a view loss that we'd go up, we'd go play Hayn Mists

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[SPEAKER_00]: get a couple of 40s of Mickey's and then go up to view lots and hang out with our girlfriends in our Volkswagen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty rad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So 40s, you say that we weren't allowed to have 40s in Florida and we drank old English.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I know, all right, but we had 30, what a like pint of what are we a 36 36 out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we couldn't get the 40.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I remember anytime that any of my buddies would travel or whatever, if they'd come back, you know, from a northern or a west west state, they'd come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes they'd bring a big, you know, bottle that the 40 ounce.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we could like hold it and see it be like, yo crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually a real 40 like ice cube talks about, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: to pop ice cubes, new dog Jay, like all of 90s and ZoneCalifornia was about having a phoenix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure was, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of all we, you had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably what our motivation was that young hip hop, that's uh, that was our life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to touch on skateboard, no, for a second, because I feel like in our culture, meaning the VW community, I feel like skateboarding plays a big part of

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, our community, our culture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why do you think that these two culture seem to attract similar style people?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's almost like I see like the Volkswagen community and world is similar to the way skateboarding was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It started West Coast East Coast and it grew to the, into the middle of the United States and it was surfing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: which brought to you together, the Volkswagen's, because the surfboard bill was, and then surfboard bills, and then skateboarding got popular in the 70s, so it was like this whole mix of all of it together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, didn't you feel when the one thing we're missing is music?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was all three together, skateboarding, Volkswagen's, and the music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's also this strong kind of DIY mentality in both worlds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're young, you're skating, you're building ramps, you're taking your trucks and your wheels off and you're upgrading your bearings and you're building all kinds of stuff all the time and that really then you get your driver's license and if you're in the Volkswagen's and you go right from building ramps and taking your skateboard apart to building stuff for your Volkswagen and taking it apart, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: 100% exactly like you know you're saying with your state you're building your skateboard by yourself you're going to skate with your friends or you've helped each other then you're building your Volkswagen you might yourself and then your homies are all together with all their cars in the in the coldest sack get ready to go roll.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you noticed that though, if you notice that most VW people are actually like 10 to really appreciate skate culture and vice versa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, definitely, even in Texas man, like when I got to Texas 20 years ago, it didn't really have that miss, but the definitely over the last 10 years, you see a lot more of it, especially when I started this shows out this actual skate park the first time I did a show at the skate park.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we had all these people are they probably never been to run for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to touch on the skate park now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a good time to do it because you brought it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How did you go from being a skater to now operating skate parks?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bring us to kind of how this happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell us about action park alliance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So action park alliance is a complete evolution of my life in life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in my life flip flop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So skateboarding was a skateboarding

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that I hope would become something and hockey, but same with hockey as like, as a soccer player and baseball player and I remember went to my soccer coach when I was like, I think 14 and I'm not planning anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I got down there and I fit right in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I started ripping and on the ice and stopped playing every other sport, it was ice hockey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I dropped my Volkswagen app practice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the other bugs that were Volkswagen did were also playing ice hockey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that we all had that camaraderie through ice hockey and the skateboarding and obviously our cars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it just, I remember going to, I think I was about 16 years old,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I came back afterwards, I was late to my hockey practice and it was a traditional hockey coach, like why are you late?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I showed up in videos what I was doing at this contest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, all right, dude, you need a pick one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you a hockey player?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you skating?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which one are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, obviously coach, I'm skate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm playing hockey, I'm playing hockey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he didn't know it, but I kept skating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I kept doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I ended up getting, you know, going to some events and when I was 17, 18 and prescating and kept the hockey was like the main stream thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I ended up playing in the West Coast hockey league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got traded to Salt Lake City.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And ironically, like that's one of my life flips.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You think you get traded in the West Coast hockey league, you're gonna, you know, you're moving your way up in the hockey world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's when my skating career, which flourished but in the business side of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I flip now, now I become like, I've raised 20 years old, not to be a pro hockey player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could play hockey pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoy my beer league today, my kids are eye hockey players going to college and all that stuff, but like I realize

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna be a pro hockey player and I'm not gonna be a pro skater.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I literally started the business when I was 20 years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 30 years ago, bro, 30 years ago, I started my skating business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, and I started, yeah, I got trade-lessot-like city.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I started running these skate contests.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden, I got as large investor, just kids dad, they were skating in my contest series I became friends with, like offered me, said, hey man, we need to build a skate park in town.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're really kind of doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How much money do we have?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, whatever it takes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, Lan England, this man has changed my life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hands me $2,000 cash out as a pocket and says, let's start skateboard together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me know what you think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to town a judge US championships at 20 years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling everybody I'm building a skateboard with back and built the first ever, you know, you know, building a big ass skateboard and downtown Salt Lake City called Real Rice Skate Park and it just exploded, dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what does action park alliance actually do today?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so you take that down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was private business when he started action park alliance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I partnered with a company called Spon Ranch skate parks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We built skate parks all over the world, concrete skate parks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Spon Ranch was the first ever builders of the X games courses at X games and then do tours in these large events.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so when I was got on that pro tour skating as a coordinator,

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[SPEAKER_00]: called the Courthorne back then in the national skate series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I ate up was building or maintenance and ramps in the warehouses of spawn ramps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like watching these big old ESP trucks roll in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, this is about 95, 96 and just like mesmerized by these beautiful big trucks of these amazing ramps, and I'm just like working for the Fox Sports Tour, like he was ESPN, Fox Sports, and our, when all that blew up, I mean, I, I really do, and that same timeframe, 95, 96 here on the West Coast to Florida.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, not really West Coast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So MTV had come down the Daytona Beach.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe the first year for spring break was 95.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 95 skating was still massive, you know, uh, I'd say a little earlier 90s, you know, I got my car, my driver's license in 95, 96, uh, bought my first beetle in 96.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as soon as I got, you know, the ability for wheels, I turned in the skateboard wheels and uh, stop stop riding the skateboard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I started hanging out with girls.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still did BMX.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I still had a profile.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And profile bikes was actually located right down here at Bay Pines and St. Pete, Florida.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, profiles just, you know, was everything to me back then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I raised all over the state still, and now I had a car that could get me there and get me to the different tracks where we did, we did practice on Wednesdays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I stayed doing that to all, it's probably,

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[SPEAKER_01]: 1718.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think my last race was probably right at 19 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I eventually hung it all up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But my point was I remember when ESPN and Fox had first started to cover these events at these big badass skate parks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you said that, it took me back to, you know, mid 90s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But dude, I remember it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's pretty cool to know that you were a part of that back then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the heyday dude, it was ultimate heyday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so fast forward through the private skate park business and known who spawn ranch was and worked in the warehouse and actually bought a ramp from,

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the ESPN event that I installed on my skateboard in Salt Lake City, I reconnected with the owners of Spawn Ranch, the day I started this coming called Action Park lines, but it wasn't working.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they brought me and offered to sell it to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, I don't want to buy it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be partners with you guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll make it work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's exactly what we did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now it's been a 20 year, I've got 22 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been with these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were at my wedding, my mark Bradford was in my wedding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were like, the work we became family was a four-nodges spot ranch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Aaron Spawn, Damon Spawn, Kierson Bradford, Mark Bradford, and then it's me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we've been family for so long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I even got Aaron Spawn to buy a Volkswagen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He got a, he got a 57 oval for my buddy, Richard Rowe in Dallas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Aaron's cruising around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He lives in Westchester, California, right by LAX,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then a speech is right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He cruises that thing all over now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I brought him into the world too, which is red.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, talking about skate parks, though, like going back and then kind of having this life, what surprised you most about running skate parks over your career?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, it doesn't surprise, but ever since I've started that first skate park in Salt Lake City, I think I was 21, 22,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, was just now being turned 50 in October.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's been a long time I've been in the skating world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, the, the, the people that is affected, the people that are now adults.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the biggest joy for me has been and, and that's what when reason why I love love does flash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and being able to produce that now was like, it's, you get a create experience for group people, experiences for people to create memories for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And memories last a lifetime, and you can't, it change that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can't take that time, but you always have your memories, bro.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and that's what's right about skateboarding and dub splash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to touch on that for a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about those flash here in just a minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, when you average people, I would say, maybe even outside of what we what we do, meaning Volkswagen community or outside of being a skater, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that was my my YouTube, my childhood as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people probably think that skate parks are just, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: a bunch of wood ramps or concrete ramps or a concrete park.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But really, at the end of the day, a skate parks, a community center, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you see them that way as well?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's 100% where they are like, I mean, any of the racking about a skate park, it's just similar in the Volkswagen world, it's like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can be in a skate park, meter you 50 years old and be skating with just ripping 14-year-old kid in his parents, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and everyone's together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's when you walk in that fence of the skate park, all while everything goes out to door, it's only about skating and action sports, your religion, political beliefs, income levels, races, it's all gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's together, both at melting pot at a skate park.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think being in the situation or the, maybe not even the situation, but being in the seat in the position that you're in?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think one of the biggest misconceptions is that parents might have about skateboarding?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, especially coming from California, and I used to operate skateboarding downtown Orlando and ending up in Dallas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can never tell you guys, I ended up in Dallas, not in the whole life, but I love it in the Metroplex.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The cultural differences and community we have there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it is, there was that, when my came there, 30 years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm the only one wearing vans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the one wearing, it's like there's a very small community wearing action sports for skateboarding gear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a lot of misconceptions that for one, I was a weed head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't smoke weed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And skateboarding is just a bunch of the derelicts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reality is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember the parkstractor at Grand Prix asked me how many kids are skating the parking Grand Prix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was more kids getting way more kids in the Grand Prix system than were involved in little league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the mayor back then did not like that statistic because he didn't believe it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they probably also believed that, you know, the skaters were the punks and, you know, like I said, that the pot heads and et cetera.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really, there are a bunch of young athletes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And some of these guys are extreme athletes, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: super fit and strong and, you know, all that and athletic and gifted and talented that's what I remember at least from from the skate parks as well And then that went right on to the BMX track, you know, you'd see a guy that at the concession stand on a Wednesday night Tuesday night at practice You see that same kid on race day, you know, air and out a a 25 even a 30 foot section of doubles

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the same kid that was eating Churros and drinking a Pepsi, you know, on Wednesday night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the dude's like a super freak, like, you know, as far as athletic ability.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, yeah, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we came from the same era, dude, we were part of this growing situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now it's, I mean, we're the Olympics now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's very, it's very, it's skateboarding and BMX is now a tradition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird to say, but it's almost like a drizzle of sport.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's a household thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony Hawk is a household man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was just a skater for us, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh yeah yeah no he's obviously super star and yeah but that that's that's what skateboarding did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember being you know going through my my 20s and going through my 30s and you know looking back at you know the skating magazines that I looked at you know what was it like trans world or

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[SPEAKER_01]: looking back at some of the, you know, even some of the trends that were popular, you know, in the 90s, early 90s, it was a big deal if you could all die down, you know, eight or 10 stairs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you could, you know, grab your board and you could do a handrail and you could place it up there, you know, 10 years later, bro, there were guys, what, what felt like back flipping into the handrail, like, you know, like the tricks got epic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the the athleticism got insane these kids just got different and better and more gifted and more talented and yeah the next games came and I'm like I'm watching x games is even my kids are growing up and I'm like what the fuck are these kids all on these kids are badass man they like I rockets in their shoes

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do this like, like Tony Hawk's post skater, Dave Merris, BMX or something, and they're doing the freaking, these gnarly tricks that no one ever thought are possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The kids are doing 10 times gnarly your tricks, then we never think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that's exactly what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I totally get that vibe with that too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty cool that you kind of get to see that first hand and have a lot of that kind of happen around you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How much work goes into a escape park, keeping a safe environment, but still kind of allowing kids to be themselves and be creative.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's in today's world with some, you know, the parents and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because of how excess cool things are, you've got to be very careful, like all my staff is safe sport certified CPR certified.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Understanding, you know, I actually certified on staff and all the programs for teach the lessons and camps and.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's you got to be real careful and parents are great, but they're great, me and every skate park.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So right now, I've got like 55 employees, I've actually got five skate parks under a belt right now reaction park Alliance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To in Fontana, California, Pum Springs, California, we keep the California, which is a sick park.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I help you as I was born and ran.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It has Pum Tracks, street course, it's not even indoor skate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two-story skate shop, it's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That parks, and then I got in a Grand Prix Texas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been coming up my 20-year anniversary this fall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's been pretty crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can say this, and you'll probably relate to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You probably even know it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in the 90s, you know, just have on a spot where you could go find some of stairs and not get kicked out by security, you know, remember back when the sticker used to be skateboarding is not a crime.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But here's the point I wanted to make as my kids were growing up, you know, skate skate parks became, you know, this, this, this kind of normal thing in the community.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I lived out in Colorado Springs for about nine years and we had some pretty badass skate parks in Colorado Springs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really badass skate parks in Colorado Springs where I would even try, you know, to get back on a skateboard and be this, you know, old man trying to still try to still skate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All we were looking for was a place to skate when we were young, and it's so cool to see how much it's evolved for these kids to have a place to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so cool to see that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's skate parks all over the country now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's like every city.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If your city is on how to skate park, your city is a skate park.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Meaning we're skating downtown and we're skating all over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to turn the streets up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you come a huge industry building skate park for cities, it's monster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's still, I mean, my fire just, you know, as fun and match, there's still, there's a list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's a, there's a deep list of skate parks that are contracted to need to be built or waiting for crews.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We, you know, we got so many crews going

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[SPEAKER_01]: God, it's so cool, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about dub splash because we we kind of started talking about a little bit and then, you know, we're talking about a passion for me too when I was young skateboarding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I could stay on this for the rest of the time, but let let let let let's go into dub splash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So talk to us and tell us where the idea from dub splash actually came from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those interests when I got to Dallas, I'm in back in 06 and then I, I actually built the Volkswagen California, you know, body off painted it in my buddy's driveway, it was sick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had to sell it to be able to afford to move to Texas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually had to get rid of it, which was a bummer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I bought a trash when I got to Dallas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't keep it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, it's too much work I'm out and I didn't get back in the Volkswagen is for a little while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So double splashes actually found it by Scotty Vansal, Elliott Vansal, Ethan Dunlott, the guys that they're love coolers, which is a prestigious car club in Texas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they ran it for many years and I start going to that show and checking it out when it was at Sandy Lake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This venue up in Louisville area and North Dallas and in it'd be coming in front of those guys going to the shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And kind of I actually and they ran a great show those guys are super rad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I and tips to ask and Elliott like is right anyway like to check out my skateboard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do the car show here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's bring it over here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got this brand skateboard and now we got our venue work good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I said, okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I actually started a event called them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I always was respectful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, hey, are you cool?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I start my own show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were a rad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do they're like, you know, sometimes in terms of Stone California, there was, and me in the skating world, there's people, there's shops have to claim territory or clubs have to have to claim territory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: DFW Bug Jam, and I knocked off the Def Jam records logo and started also, I can show called DFW Bug Jam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And those guys, it elite, everybody showed up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had 150 cars my first shot, the skate park.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the next year, the classic and Frederick's work, it's shut down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: which is a big known show in Texas, the classic and shut down and I think those guys I talked to the I've been doing some events at the lake in Grand Prairie, so like my partnership is with the city of Grand Prairie in Texas and there's this rad lake venue and I don't supposed to keep working and it's down on the lake and I asked my parks for I said can I do a car show down there and they're totally cool as you let's do the car show so I moved above Jam up and I was going to do it at the lake in April.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the same year, Dub Splash was shutting down because the venue got sold for houses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Sandy Lake amusement park got sold for houses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I let Elliot know, as always, saying touched them being a leader.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a leader in the community.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to make sure I always make sure I show respect and not 70 toes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, hey, I'm going to do it to Lake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll support you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Sandy Lake shut down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, we're not here to Dub Splash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll support you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the magazine, the Hanfee W's magazine came out like that January that showed dub splash of magazine and I like I'm not even kidding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like two days later, Elliot calls me and he's like, hey dude, remember you said, that's what we can partner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's partner was partner and I was like, that's I'm down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's what's best for the community is for us to work together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we combined, do you have to be a bug jam and dub slash?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we made, do you have to be a bug jam, a Saturday cruise?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And dub slash, the car show at the lake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was sick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we had, it was packed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Elliot ran out of swim wagging and was putting in the water, swimming right off the beach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, cool man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it literally was dub slash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we got COVID shut down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had late floods.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We lost a couple of events because of COVID and late floods.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did a couple of events and then very Ethan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Elliot just, Elliot was like, you wanted to enjoy his cars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they passed the torch to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I took her over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'd had a couple more events at the late at Lloyd Lynn Creek Park.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember as Rad one year, the water was so far down in the lake, because of drought, that we put all the Doom Buggies on the sandy beaches of the lake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was rad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and then fast, of course, fast forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had another lake closure because of flooding in Texas, so like I taught you better drought and then we talked about that's that's Texas do like Texas weather is bipolar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: other nature's pissed at us, so we had another lake closure because of flooding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I got told on a Tuesday morning that both dust flash was shut down for the weekend, coming weekend because the lake's too flooded.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even if it's somehow other floods, the waters, the grounds me to saturate it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've already into this like 15 years or so with my relationship with the city, my partnership running the skate park, you know, a landscape park in Grand Prairie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't want to take this dumps flash back to the skate park in Grand Prix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to be into the black top show, like we've already done that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the city built this area called the epic, which is like just 400 million art development with a huge 90 million dollar underwater park.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Regretion center bars and restaurants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These rotation ponds with the velocity of water shows in them with lasers and shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just, yeah, I mean, it's amazing in India.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what it is, what has become today is nuts compared to what it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I found out, not even dust flashes shut down the lake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, well, can I do it the epic on the lawn?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's big pavilion in the middle of all this development.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by 4 p.m., the city said, you can do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How am I?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, a great feeling that is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we, and so yeah, the mayor Ron Jensen at Grand Paris has been phenomenal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The council members at the park, everyone in the works there is when we've been like, I can talk about my part just on ranch like family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how this community has been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I moved there, I knew that I had to, because there's a hard to beat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's in that city.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be part of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now that I've been there so long, they trust me with the property.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the dump splash at the epic has just become exact what his epic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got a huge stage, last this last year, we had shade structures and tents.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I had over 40 vendors come out between swoppers and food vendors and cultural vendors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 320 something cars, plus all the vendors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had 3,700 people tracked come through through a geo-finsing and it's the second, it's free.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I, I want dumps to life be free for spectators oh, it's like you should never have to pay to come see this situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I know that we had show card entry sponsorship is pay for it, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's kind of the evolution of Dustflash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, kind of ran on there with from, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was looking at my next question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to ask you, like, what separates Dustflash from other VW shows, but you're telling me, so you're on a roll.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, like I said, Ellie, those guys, I had a great thing with they had to sandulate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a music rise, and it was dope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I remember, Elliot himself got to come to dumps flash with his daughter Sadie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They both are driving in and some pimped out water pool and Volkswagen's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when he pulls, when you pull into this video, you can't drive into this video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like a parking lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're parked on the other side of these large buildings, recreation centers, and you drive into these walk pass.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like a specialized entrance for the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I run a very structured load-in process,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I pull it, Elliot, and he's like, are you effing kitty me right now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's ponds and beautiful grass and the water show going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, this is insane.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a testament to this relationship with the Grand Prairie, and then trusting me with the property.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the mayor shows up to every event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He gets on the stage and announces how stochies everyone's there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the council members love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that is doing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's doing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, that's what any promoter, right, that's in a city that tries to put on for the city and put on for the community that does a Volkswagen show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they hope for, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We we envision like, man, one day the mayor's going to come here, you know, and celebrate with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And right, you're doing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: raw messages like I feel like I'm at Woodstock man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is awesome man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's absolutely awesome man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what do you guys do planning wise to like keep the event, you know, fresh and keep an exciting every year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm asking this really from a promoter standpoint.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, every year I feel like I've got it to

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[SPEAKER_00]: to step it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like when everyone came to the first to give you a book jam and they were like, I'm gonna get 150 cars, that's awesome, dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, to not mind the inside looking out, you can find the skate park business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I understand that we're part of this community where, you know, I hate using this word, like, leaders of the community or whatever, because I don't feel like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we're all together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And everyone makes it happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're doing your shows in this podcast, like you have blessed with this opportunity to give people opportunity to do and be part of rad stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when Elliot passed the course on dub splash for me, like if that's exactly why I took it as.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, I'm gonna keep this legacy alive and honor what you guys have created and I'm gonna keep it going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And with the active location and ground prairie do the, you know, that can say this last year we had this bigger stage bigger sounds to some out of Blink 182 cover band play dude it was so rap absolutely super cool now I know a lot of work goes into this meaning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: promotion that a lot of people actually don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people just show up, they bring their car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They sit there as a participant, even better as a spectator.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they don't really understand how difficult it is putting this together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's talk on that for a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How difficult is it producing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: and event that people come to for one weekend out of a whole year, but it takes you that whole year to craft this and to build it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How difficult is it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk on that for a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, it's weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Since I've been writing skate parks and doing a fence for so long in the skateboarding world, like

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't feel difficult to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, but super stressful, dude, because you get naysayers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People think you're just still a money from people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's rain in the forecast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why are you not canceling?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you're just trying to steal everyone's money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've had people say that to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like that's, I'm trying to create, I'm trying to make a bad ass time for everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't, I don't want to need to hear that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it brings me down, dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I really, I want people to have a bad time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want them to have a bad experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the hardest part for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If that's not producing an event, it's some of the people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a thousand amazing people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you hear two people tell you things like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you just, I have a hard time like getting over that sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I know why, because I can just tell by talking to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're one of them kind of guys that really cares about the outcome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You care if people have a good time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You care if people show up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You care, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You care about the outcome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's really easy to take something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A statement like that, a negative review, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's easy to take that personal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm speaking from somebody who also promote shows and who understands that what you just said super stressful But only because I care I want to do it for the community and I know you're in the same boat So yeah, man, that's cool not that difficult, but a little stressful because you care you give a flip But that's perfect because you're the same you're the exact type of person and or leader that needs to be doing this

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[SPEAKER_01]: you have to have some money that cares.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's ingrained in the community to be putting on something like dumps flesh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, it's going to flop or ain't going to last because when you don't care, give a shit about the outcome, it shows and people are like, man, fuck this guy, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they don't want to work with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's good, it's good to hear that you do care and that you do take it personal, you know, it shows what kind of person you are and that's probably why it's successful and that's also it's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We learn every event, you know, how to make it better, how to make it easier, you know, how to how to create a more of an experience instead of making people feel like they're working.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I want to give a shot with that set too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I grew.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So from from taking over by myself from Elliott and Richard Roe, a way Rob Roe, they come out to help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the last two events, actually three Texas two and Fontana one might

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[SPEAKER_00]: My new wife that we got married this last May, like, she jumped in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's a very legit business for she jumped in to help me organize so much better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, you see what you're doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can help you make this better too, and she's crushed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, I remember my manager, my, like, little brother, but manager Victor Nelson after the first dub slash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, oh, she can deal with you at dub slash?

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's the one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about that, like the hard stuff, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what are something that people that show up will call them attendees?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's something that attendees don't realize that actually happens behind the scenes?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously some of those comments, they have other messages.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't realize you're dealing with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, the stress of the trophies getting done on time, the t-shirts getting done on time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I can only control what I control.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't control what other people and I can't control the weather.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's one of the biggest ones, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you've got, you've got, you always want your Volkswagen name to be a beautiful day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sunny, beautiful, not too hot, not too windy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, not rainy, those are the uncontrollables or what the hardest thing is to deal with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, even in management and in business ownership, a lot of times we talk to other leaders in the companies and we tell them, let's focus on the things we can control.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and let the rest of it just kind of happen and we'll do damage control from there, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's focus our energy on the things that we actually can control.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's a strategy, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, man, you guys are kicking ass and it shows you care and that's really the recipe for super success inside of these events.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just have to have people in place that give a shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really what it comes down to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not just care about

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[SPEAKER_01]: sales or care about, you know, the shirts or whatever, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's care about the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Care about the whole thing that people are going to experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it shows, it shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can hear it in you, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's that's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's touch on the evolution of Volkswagen as a as a as a culture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you've watched.

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[SPEAKER_01]: this VW culture kind of evolved over over the years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How's the community changed in your eyes from your opinion, from where you're sitting?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got great hair and no hair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wore a flat pillow, my wet thing, bro.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I take my hat off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I own it, bro.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I own it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not much different, dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's really, like, from watching it, I don't see it being much different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, evolution or products.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can point something out that you pointed out earlier when you were talking about being a kid and hanging out your buddy's garages and looking at magazines, you said because we didn't have social media.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have that type of, so let's touch on that social media as a whole, YouTube has it made the hobby better or worse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, I'm telling you, it's better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So imagine if we had YouTube tutorials when we were 1718, oh my god, bro.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, I remember having this conversation with someone about the evolution, like, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I found that 65 bus is behind you right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That I found that in a bar in Louisiana, like two years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I ain't no sick bus, 65.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know clue what it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Turns out after the internet is, and I talked to like, Mark Baumgartner, it talks to people, they've done Jeremy Jordan, the compound, and him, and California, like, we were really sure exactly what it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's that's SO22 removable camper kit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's 65 bucks, there's a original.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there were very few of them made, like, we would never would have known that back and, you know, 94.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And really what we're getting ourselves into,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's your right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is that evolution, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we had the magazines, we only had when we knew in our community in a real tight area.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then now I think with YouTube tutorials and how to build things, this podcast, the branch out of digital media how people can get more access to things is the evolution.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But also the difference is too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's probably a conversation I had with Tom Kinney at WWE, it was like, the 60-year-old kid is not finding a 67-bug anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Facebook Marketplace, 97 Jenna runs AC works, and that's 1700 bucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That kid's getting a jet in now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So right, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I paid that, you know, I paid two grand for a 72 standard beatle in 1996 with 70,000 miles on it was my first, my first beatle, what my first car, but it was my first, my first Volkswagen, I was hooked, you know, from that point on, but you're right, that to me back then was, you know, buying the car with, you know, kind of still low mileage, you know, that was 20 years

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, let's touch on these younger enthusiasts because, you know, they are entering the hobby and they are entering the hobby differently now than previous generations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that the classics, I mean, you really just kind of alluded to this, the classics are they kind of becoming harder to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: appreciate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're harder to appreciate the obviously harder to find.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're still out there, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You still find, see people posting barn finds, which is mind-blowing to me with the dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a successful story of a barn fund.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a barn, my wife's Carman Geo was a barn fund.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For one owner, 46,000 miles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, it barely ran when we got it, but, you know, it was a very low mile one owner car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the guy that I got it from his mom had passed away and he had lost the title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he had to, you know, go down to his,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know DMV and figure that out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it did change hands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It went down to the sun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I have everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have the original purchase agreement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have the original receipt and invoice from the day that she bought it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I also have all the proof that that was his mother, which which you know was super cool, super super cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you made a great point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that point was

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, what we found as a car is 2000, you know, to be a cheap car in 96.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what these kids are doing now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're finding a $1,500, $2,000 car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's watercooled that has a C that does 120 miles an hour on the interstate, not 50 if you're lucky, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little bit different, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's important still, you know, that the classics are

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[SPEAKER_01]: you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is still abilities.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's be real.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A barn fine today isn't a barn fine of when you and I, you know, were in our teens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a barn fine back then was a $500 car, a $1,000 car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A barn fine today is a $25,000 car if you're lucky, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's internet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it now that they have a better that idea of what value it's like that 50 year convertible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and about makes you sick, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The 2180 and I do it with like, what the hell?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two things on that about the kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Raise, I was, I have a 2011 sport wagon, you know, TDI short shifter on bags.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my daily.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Guys, we're selling some wheels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this dude was handing me up, you know, offering me a load.

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[SPEAKER_00]: everyone in the Facebook little balls, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, is this for you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or is this like, are you, what's, what's going on here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, no, I'm 17 years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got my first jet, I said, so he, I've self-resized 600 bucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He offered me 400 bucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, you can have him for 200 bucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes, what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I go, if you're really, if you're really 17 and you show up with your dad to pick these up, you could have him for 200 bucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you need, you need these wheels for your car and I'm gonna help you get him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just, I'll hook you up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Second story is about the kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is MP is been a great partner with me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That I've been a community came in the wrong middle, we're wrong, middle, and over the MP, where they gave me gifts for tip against every year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do whatever, they don't tell much to do with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what if I'm going to go in the raffle for raffles?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what if I started to MP futures award?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which randomly, I'll go at the last minute of the show before award start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll pick out a car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that could use this 250 or $500 in big gift certificate and I'll grab the name card and their owner has no idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they get called up just before the engine raffle they'll know that they got they won the in-be futures award and help give them products to go towards fixing a car up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'd like to find a younger kid to give it to and Axel Weisman was one of the first one that got it here in Texas and the kid was so hyped to do like he was so hyped.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Another one was this girl who drove her bay window that broke down halfway from New Mexico to Dubsplash and the dad drove to get a fuel pump brought it back and they still finished the driving it into Dubsplash she got the second one another gentleman got it so it's kind of thing like a it's kind of a give back right like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People aren't expecting something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's absolutely fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Talking about kind of, you know, the youth, the evolution, where Volkswagen culture is now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What trends really kind of excite you that are in the scene now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, there's going to be some naysayers when I say this, but it's going to be some of the Mexican bugs that are showing up at the shows are not really amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, because he gets some nases, I mean, there's amazing cards on me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen everyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's the, the builds are phenomenal, the V, a 21 window that came from Florida actually last year and Grand Prix was nuts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It went, it went best of a show, but I really love how, it's, it's amazing all the cultures coming together, but the Latino culture is how deep they roll it to shows

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they don't know this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The guys that come under my Dallas shows they there's been some clothes that piss me off every single year someone pisses me off because it's just but they've all they've now grown with me and everyone this last show we have was so smooth and great with everyone that came together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No issues everyone should club choice wars, but some of the builds coming out from the late these 80s Mexican bugs is actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of crazy because we can't find the six the fifty seven ovals anymore in the dust like that's one of the things that's kind of surprised me is that which is some of these building hardly do yeah okay I can talk on that too I mean some of the trends that excite me I would say even though you did ask but I'm just trying to vibe with you yeah I would say I would say are probably you know I really like safari windows

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a super cool trend that that's here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like bigger rims underneath these cars, you know, when you can, you know, kind of widen those fenders a little bit, especially on the Beatles, and you could put some big 18s, even some big 20s, and, you know, you got the, the older axle still that are, you know, that have that, that crazy camera, I really like those trends, I like air.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, my whole background and culture is low router culture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got two older brothers that were always into mini truck in and, you know, they were into hydraulics and, you know, their shit was slam down frame on the ground type stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you've probably heard me talk about that before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So to see some of that right now is being trendy, bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... super low static cars you know big rims uh... all the glass opened up wide and you know to me i just i think those are the types of trends at excited me right now i feel like so the cars are like these dudes doing theme vehicles heck yeah

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like different themes like like Hot Wheels same cars or Nick Jones out of Oklahoma.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it is where Dicks from with his is a single cat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This all swind out like a, like a, like a, he was all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, he's, he's dope, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have a big fire at his, at his house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He actually had his fire bro like Thursday before dub splash on Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick was still there on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, crazy crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a great guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He came on and yeah, that I recognize that that single cap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have any trends that are popular now that might worry you even or worry the culture and any you know being in a leadership seat do you hear, you know, the streets talking and he

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it確ize that worry me other than some of the people that I'm not a person is about getting trophies, trophies are dope, we have dope trophies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, the car clubs, the car shows is about getting together with everybody involved walks of life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've had some people that, you know, right, you don't give any awards to the basic stop cars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's not an award category for one, but it's some of the potential device of this that's come up with some people that now maybe because of social media, they think they can say whatever they want rather than appreciating what's been offered for them, so to speak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And not saying for me or anything like that, but like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is just, this is for fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is to get together with the boys, let's see each other with your families, and no matter what walk a life you are, we're rare, what type of car you have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I just, I just said, talked about the Mexican Beatles, and they were coming out there in our phenomenal and just bills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's something that a lot of people would take likely to, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is part of the world we have right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, oh, that's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can touch on that too, you know, even not necessarily a trend that worries me, but just being in this seat, being a podcast host and talking to so many different walks of life in our in our community, something I can tell you that has has pressed me over time has been the acceptance that's not there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right, this is the Volkswagen community.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I feel like we all belong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the big picture, that's really where it all goes, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then I also feel like on the opposite side of that coin that there is like this clickish nature, where very easily you could feel like you all of a sudden don't belong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's it to me I don't think that there's any room for that in our culture in what we're doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's togetherness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we continue that togetherness vibe and I think we should maintain that and actually work to maintain that instead of, you know, allowing these clicks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can even, you know, voice it to say even down to some of the club levels.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, where you're not accepted for for one reason or another, you know, even if it's just the feeling of giving somebody the feeling that they're not accepted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's any place for it in our community.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's bullshit person touch on that like I was I was grew up in Southern California.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was afraid last year when I started the dumps slash Fontana event and my skate park there at the city.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I almost didn't do it because the dumps slash Texas has been a great event, it's been well received.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because of fear, and click as fears, I almost didn't hit send or start on the Facebook event page and start the market here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I didn't know how the Southern California Park culture would accept it coming, you know, they think they don't lot people know that I'm from California, I think it's no Texas as Texas event and I said, screw it, I got to go start this, we're good, we're doing it and it just started steam roll with the, with the acceptance I, like I said, one of my,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Friends, Jeremy Jordan, for the compound at him, it he helped bridge the gaps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then through Solstho Media, we talk about social being bad and then also being good, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rob from midlife cruisers got a great big following his midlife cruisers in Instagram page and social media.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He jumped on how to compensate with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He started helping promote it and just steam roll.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we had just cruise and car club, which is their home is in Fontana, the oil drippers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had the German folk show up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a ton of different car clothes show up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it, like I said, I was intimidated in a frayed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So to speak, which is weird, I'm a adult man, I'm afraid to go do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, people, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Jeremy walked me around the car show and we went met every single car club.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it turns out like the dudes at the German folk who like, I grew up like idolizing those dudes when I grew up in Upland.

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[SPEAKER_00]: very deep car club.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been around for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it turns out that we all had freaking mutual friends like we're face timing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm face time when my buddies and friends with them were like, oh, it's Kevin, what's up, dude?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it should be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And every group I went met was like, thank you for doing this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Blah, blah, blah, blah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, I'm like, so thankful I did it just because like again,

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[SPEAKER_00]: created an experience that created memories.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now people have side were breaking it back again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you you recognize what I'm saying though, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I talk to the clip stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it does exist.

01:02:15.091 --> 01:02:17.093
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and it's almost like we don't want to talk about it.

01:02:17.113 --> 01:02:18.214
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't want to put light on it.

01:02:18.865 --> 01:02:28.070
[SPEAKER_01]: But it happens and I feel like, you know, you got to be a part of the cool guy club, sometimes to even, you know, park your car in this area or whatever.

01:02:28.130 --> 01:02:30.592
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying that I've experienced this personally.

01:02:30.672 --> 01:02:35.255
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying, I've had a lot of people come on and talk to me from all over the world.

01:02:35.915 --> 01:02:38.557
[SPEAKER_01]: and I, you know, it's this, it's just this feeling.

01:02:39.158 --> 01:02:44.283
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't, I don't feel it belongs inside our community, but let's move past it all good.

01:02:44.463 --> 01:02:54.051
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about leadership and again, we'll continue to talk about the community, you know, as a person, as a leader, you spent, you know, your, your whole entire life,

01:02:57.995 --> 01:03:01.577
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think it takes to keep people involved, right?

01:03:01.617 --> 01:03:04.179
[SPEAKER_01]: To keep people coming back year after year?

01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:06.961
[SPEAKER_01]: What does it really take from a leadership perspective?

01:03:07.201 --> 01:03:08.502
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's being personable.

01:03:09.442 --> 01:03:18.768
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's one thing I've been good with with people who both businesses, both situations is being able to talk to me.

01:03:19.248 --> 01:03:22.130
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a station from the clicky situation, right?

01:03:22.150 --> 01:03:24.371
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, don't be afraid to come talk to me.

01:03:25.947 --> 01:03:39.352
[SPEAKER_00]: also like with social media now like people, even though I can put so much information on the website, uh, loom videos, maps of where everyone's going to park at, people so don't not read or look or watch.

01:03:39.512 --> 01:03:40.552
[SPEAKER_00]: There's still going to ask questions.

01:03:41.273 --> 01:03:42.653
[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to respond to everybody.

01:03:43.494 --> 01:03:52.137
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I try to respond, even though I'm running the show and people are asked what a part, I'm on my phone trying to respond at every single message I get to make sure they're

01:03:55.975 --> 01:03:57.816
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that is part of it.

01:03:57.876 --> 01:04:08.922
[SPEAKER_00]: They know, and that's what's grown over with me, brought it, you know, my time expansion of the show is like, I'm trying to make sure everyone knows that included as much as possible through every process possible.

01:04:10.452 --> 01:04:17.217
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, just, you know, it's the whole, you care about the outcome and it, and it, and it shows and again it shows itself right there.

01:04:17.777 --> 01:04:19.618
[SPEAKER_01]: Here, here's an interesting question.

01:04:20.699 --> 01:04:26.643
[SPEAKER_01]: What lessons from a life escape boarding building skate parks and that type of community?

01:04:27.063 --> 01:04:29.785
[SPEAKER_01]: What type of lessons there applied directly to

01:04:30.946 --> 01:04:34.969
[SPEAKER_01]: the business side of events like meaning from skateboarding.

01:04:35.409 --> 01:04:47.857
[SPEAKER_01]: What kind of lessons can we talk about this that you learn from the skateboarding community and apply them to car culture and car clubs not necessarily clubs, but these shows, those clash in events.

01:04:48.998 --> 01:04:49.858
[SPEAKER_00]: What's it's crazy?

01:04:50.018 --> 01:04:54.902
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I got so stuff you're not going to expect.

01:04:55.402 --> 01:04:56.182
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be part of my

01:05:00.818 --> 01:05:02.239
[SPEAKER_00]: how to do those and get people together.

01:05:02.259 --> 01:05:05.100
[SPEAKER_00]: It's throughput, how to execute a timely manner.

01:05:05.941 --> 01:05:17.566
[SPEAKER_00]: It's also going to go back to my oldest brother, who's one of the biggest live show producers in the world, who was lucky enough to, he's produced Athens, Greece opening closing ceremony for Olympics.

01:05:17.706 --> 01:05:23.249
[SPEAKER_00]: Deepers have time to show us for Super Bowl, good old game, fair Olympics.

01:05:24.294 --> 01:05:25.494
[SPEAKER_00]: all kinds of stuff.

01:05:26.115 --> 01:05:36.098
[SPEAKER_00]: I worked with him on a couple events or shows productions and I was washed up my brother would do and how these productions would work and how can I bring him into our world.

01:05:36.798 --> 01:05:49.642
[SPEAKER_00]: So I worked on a ballet with him and I worked on a ballet production for about two weeks and I got to watch the background production of that and then he brought me back with him

01:05:51.703 --> 01:05:57.107
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, whatever, oh two Olympics in Salt Lake City, the winter Olympics, I worked on as a stage manager for her, I mean, the pair of Olympics.

01:05:57.787 --> 01:06:07.054
[SPEAKER_00]: So I got to watch how these real big corporate productions go and how can I learn from this and bring out some of this information and pull down to us?

01:06:07.635 --> 01:06:09.176
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of what I've done.

01:06:10.237 --> 01:06:10.977
[SPEAKER_01]: Sick, bro.

01:06:11.037 --> 01:06:14.099
[SPEAKER_01]: So how how has that shaped you?

01:06:14.139 --> 01:06:17.322
[SPEAKER_01]: Like how has leadership changed for you over the years?

01:06:17.940 --> 01:06:35.847
[SPEAKER_00]: It's definitely, I, I, when I still need to be better out is a designate and, and make sure, like, that's the only reason why I was able to upscale action park Alliance to five locations in over 50 employees was trusting and designating and outlegating and supporting my guys, making sure they can execute and be successful.

01:06:36.557 --> 01:06:38.858
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you hear about that a lot, right?

01:06:38.918 --> 01:06:42.760
[SPEAKER_01]: Getting out of your own way, trust and people, right?

01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:49.844
[SPEAKER_01]: We do a lot about process and we focus a lot on making sure that, you know, and it's a trust thing, right?

01:06:50.004 --> 01:06:55.127
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, and I say this all time to contractors, you want to grow, you want to scale.

01:06:56.142 --> 01:07:04.226
[SPEAKER_01]: get out of your own way, you know, you're what's holding you back from being successful, meaning from a scaling perspective.

01:07:04.286 --> 01:07:08.048
[SPEAKER_01]: So interesting to hear your take there and it's exactly right.

01:07:08.529 --> 01:07:21.456
[SPEAKER_01]: Once you learn to step aside and, you know, allocate responsibility and allow other people to be successful inside of these these these seats or these operations.

01:07:21.616 --> 01:07:22.816
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of times what you actually

01:07:24.157 --> 01:07:28.498
[SPEAKER_01]: is holy shit, they fucking do a better job than me, right?

01:07:28.938 --> 01:07:35.919
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I should have got the fuck out of the way a long time ago, you know, and it would have been completely different.

01:07:36.059 --> 01:07:42.220
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, a lot of times we hold ourselves back because we care so much, and that's that's cool.

01:07:42.240 --> 01:07:49.582
[SPEAKER_01]: That's leadership, but that's cool to hear that you got out of your own way, and it sounds like you taught yourself that.

01:07:50.082 --> 01:07:51.162
[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't have enough to hear it.

01:07:52.078 --> 01:08:08.673
[SPEAKER_00]: But I just get about a year ago, dumps flash, or even this last dumps flash, like my now wife, Randy, who's taken over, you know, pre-cell package and reloading everything the couple days before, and on-site check-in registration, I've walked up for this last year.

01:08:08.713 --> 01:08:10.254
[SPEAKER_00]: I say, hey, what's going on, Dota?

01:08:10.715 --> 01:08:11.755
[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to go give some direction.

01:08:11.775 --> 01:08:15.939
[SPEAKER_00]: She goes, get, get out of here.

01:08:16.099 --> 01:08:17.060
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not kidding.

01:08:17.320 --> 01:08:18.962
[SPEAKER_00]: And as like, I got this.

01:08:19.470 --> 01:08:21.294
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna marry you in three weeks.

01:08:24.180 --> 01:08:26.024
[SPEAKER_01]: I got this, yeah, yeah.

01:08:26.585 --> 01:08:27.306
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, this.

01:08:28.034 --> 01:08:29.334
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, great feeling, man.

01:08:29.795 --> 01:08:30.275
[SPEAKER_01]: For sure.

01:08:30.915 --> 01:08:31.215
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:08:31.555 --> 01:08:32.955
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, let's touch on hockey.

01:08:33.236 --> 01:08:38.837
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, you know, another big huge party your life, your daughters are in college or are playing hockey.

01:08:39.437 --> 01:08:50.820
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you know, somewhere in this life of years, you've also managed to become, you, you, you said earlier, uh, a multiple, uh, beer league, uh, hockey champion, right?

01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:55.342
[SPEAKER_01]: Talk, talk, talk to us a little bit about, uh, hockey, maybe even competition

01:08:57.308 --> 01:09:06.972
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so when I, I've like said, I'm who just always city if by the West Coast league, I kind of stop in hockey for a couple of years, you know, started business, started family, got back in the hockey and pretty much kept going.

01:09:07.092 --> 01:09:14.274
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm barely playing for all these years, but like my daughters finally, they were in dance classes and had fun with that.

01:09:14.294 --> 01:09:16.315
[SPEAKER_00]: And I went, I'm cheered on a lot of the way to everything.

01:09:16.355 --> 01:09:20.657
[SPEAKER_00]: And then my daughter's like, I want to play hockey, my, thank you, maybe Jesus, let's go.

01:09:23.158 --> 01:09:36.348
[SPEAKER_01]: When you sent me that text and the picture and when you said that, the first thing I thought was, wow, you know, you must be proud, like they got a big kind of bad asses dude to get out there on the on the ice and play hockey, right?

01:09:49.374 --> 01:10:16.797
[SPEAKER_00]: And she got on the asset a couple times before that had brain surgery and get clear to go back to like still she was 11 and then she went to go step up and play boys hitting hockey and like Doctors the search is not going to let you play hitting a hockey you're going to have to try to be a goalier something so she tried to be a goalie and she is stuck and she did play you know like got a couple years in the net And then went off to playing college and then finished with her masters in psychology and so within three years also I'm now she's playing right away she's going to travel hockey travel the country with her great thing

01:10:19.089 --> 01:10:44.150
[SPEAKER_00]: For hockey for me was with my daughter say my oldest this you know actually Madison's 26th and Taylor's 27 They got into hockey Taylor's a skateboarder But Madison, so fee be can't hockey players and so fee is one where I'm actually in Phoenix now To get right drop profit set up in our dorm tomorrow, which would be playing for Arizona state Crazy, yeah super ratchet in the ROTC program become a Navy nurse

01:10:45.594 --> 01:10:57.784
[SPEAKER_00]: Madison, Madison really finishes the masters and she's a, you know, works in the psychology of world managing doctors offices and stuff and it's like the relationship I had because of.

01:11:00.607 --> 01:11:03.569
[SPEAKER_00]: hockey with my daughters just brought us so close together.

01:11:03.609 --> 01:11:06.791
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it really formed a bond where we together that they're ranked all the time.

01:11:06.811 --> 01:11:17.257
[SPEAKER_00]: There's days, the even kids who beat the rank like 45 nights straight between Dallas stars games, my games, their practices, my games, like, it's what we did.

01:11:17.994 --> 01:11:23.395
[SPEAKER_00]: And I really feel like the solid bond, a daughter, daddy, you know, bond, which is, is become a breakbook.

01:11:23.436 --> 01:11:29.397
[SPEAKER_00]: As I'm Madison's playing beer league with me, I made Sophia play beer league last week when she turned 18 to Frederick School.

01:11:29.837 --> 01:11:37.799
[SPEAKER_00]: She comes to the locker room, the boys make her crush her beer in a locker room, took her to the bar of butter, she got, she got us kicked out of the bar because she was taking shots at 18.

01:11:38.340 --> 01:11:39.800
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, cool man.

01:11:40.723 --> 01:11:41.665
[SPEAKER_01]: That's been really bad.

01:11:41.885 --> 01:11:46.752
[SPEAKER_01]: So as a family, it sounds like competition is important to you guys, right?

01:11:46.972 --> 01:11:56.386
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, the great thing about hockey, compared to the wife, see for other sports, it's like, it builds camaraderie, it builds work ethic, it builds family.

01:11:58.434 --> 01:12:02.435
[SPEAKER_00]: because you're not, it's not, it's building a team or working together.

01:12:02.555 --> 01:12:04.396
[SPEAKER_00]: But you can't do it without working together.

01:12:04.416 --> 01:12:11.238
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's, like, why Sophie is going to the military in the Navy because she's got that work ethic.

01:12:12.359 --> 01:12:16.860
[SPEAKER_00]: My Madison finished with a master's because she wasn't done with just the basics, right?

01:12:17.521 --> 01:12:19.361
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's a big part of hockey.

01:12:19.381 --> 01:12:26.004
[SPEAKER_00]: And like, to take the girls to the Volkswagen world, if I died tomorrow, there was a Volkswagen feature one of them.

01:12:26.404 --> 01:12:26.884
[SPEAKER_00]: I got three.

01:12:28.550 --> 01:12:34.671
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and they also help run the events, you know, Madison or inner husband, you know, is out running and checking for throughput.

01:12:34.972 --> 01:12:36.152
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my kids do too, man.

01:12:36.192 --> 01:12:38.192
[SPEAKER_01]: They all, they're all part of our events too.

01:12:38.372 --> 01:12:41.413
[SPEAKER_01]: They work the, you know, the salty dub table, they sell merch.

01:12:41.433 --> 01:12:44.214
[SPEAKER_01]: They all have their own kind of, you know, specialties.

01:12:44.254 --> 01:12:47.274
[SPEAKER_01]: I got one that, you know, works the sales aspect of it.

01:12:47.615 --> 01:12:49.355
[SPEAKER_01]: I got one that likes to direct traffic.

01:12:49.895 --> 01:12:53.616
[SPEAKER_01]: I got one that likes to sit back and look like he's in charge, but really he's just on his phone.

01:12:55.816 --> 01:12:57.737
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, man, my kids are involved too.

01:12:57.817 --> 01:13:03.818
[SPEAKER_01]: It's cool, it's cool, it's a cool platform to give them, but also teach them about community.

01:13:04.258 --> 01:13:17.340
[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes just about being there and working for something and instead of expecting something in return, it's just, how can I help, what can I do for you instead of, what are you gonna do for me?

01:13:18.220 --> 01:13:22.681
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's important to have that in a family and in the dynamic of a family.

01:13:23.616 --> 01:13:27.941
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it's cool for them to see, they're always going to see up.

01:13:27.981 --> 01:13:29.242
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a little bit dad created.

01:13:29.262 --> 01:13:31.084
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at all these people are here because what dad did.

01:13:31.505 --> 01:13:34.048
[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty cool for me to think that I did something cool.

01:13:34.588 --> 01:13:35.268
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so.

01:13:35.629 --> 01:13:36.269
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with that.

01:13:36.489 --> 01:13:37.309
[SPEAKER_01]: And they talk about it.

01:13:37.389 --> 01:13:39.771
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like I, and I don't hear that, right?

01:13:39.831 --> 01:13:41.492
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they don't say they won't say that to me.

01:13:42.012 --> 01:13:44.113
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll hear them the night before a big event.

01:13:44.973 --> 01:13:46.714
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll hear them on the phone, one of their friends.

01:13:46.994 --> 01:13:48.675
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll over here the conversation.

01:13:49.155 --> 01:13:50.496
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, no, no, no, my dad.

01:13:50.556 --> 01:13:51.176
[SPEAKER_01]: No, of course.

01:13:51.216 --> 01:13:52.617
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's got like 300 cars coming.

01:13:52.757 --> 01:13:53.137
[SPEAKER_01]: No, bro.

01:13:53.157 --> 01:13:54.778
[SPEAKER_01]: My dad, my dad will fuck shit up.

01:13:55.158 --> 01:13:58.040
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, like, okay, like, cool.

01:13:58.080 --> 01:13:59.421
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I didn't know you all felt that way.

01:13:59.821 --> 01:14:01.782
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I have felt that over time.

01:14:02.813 --> 01:14:03.433
[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty cool.

01:14:03.854 --> 01:14:04.714
[SPEAKER_01]: It is, it is.

01:14:05.174 --> 01:14:08.036
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, man, I got some some rapid fire questions.

01:14:08.076 --> 01:14:09.557
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to run a lot here.

01:14:10.718 --> 01:14:14.880
[SPEAKER_01]: I did have some business side stuff, but we kind of already touched on some of it.

01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:16.221
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just kind of looking through it.

01:14:17.142 --> 01:14:20.183
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think I need to trouble you with some of those questions.

01:14:20.684 --> 01:14:20.924
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:14:22.036 --> 01:14:22.556
[SPEAKER_00]: going to be God.

01:14:22.956 --> 01:14:25.617
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I've got some rapid fire questions.

01:14:25.657 --> 01:14:28.878
[SPEAKER_01]: Now these are questions that would normally demand a fast response.

01:14:29.238 --> 01:14:34.420
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to shut a story down if it comes of it, you know, but typically this is go with the gut.

01:14:34.540 --> 01:14:35.360
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's rock through it.

01:14:35.440 --> 01:14:36.300
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you ready?

01:14:37.061 --> 01:14:38.601
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, rapid fire.

01:14:38.761 --> 01:14:45.203
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you said this already, but your first Volkswagen again just remind me,

01:14:46.375 --> 01:14:48.096
[SPEAKER_01]: 64 Beetle 64 Beetle.

01:14:48.217 --> 01:14:54.201
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, favorite generation of VW's, oh, it's pre 67, pre 67.

01:14:54.401 --> 01:14:56.943
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, split window or oval.

01:14:57.323 --> 01:14:57.864
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be split it.

01:14:58.404 --> 01:14:59.585
[SPEAKER_01]: Split it, split it.

01:14:59.605 --> 01:14:59.905
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wait.

01:15:00.105 --> 01:15:00.926
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, oveless.

01:15:01.126 --> 01:15:01.346
[SPEAKER_01]: Oveless.

01:15:01.827 --> 01:15:04.649
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, no, Beetle.

01:15:05.409 --> 01:15:07.731
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, now we'll talk about buses.

01:15:07.751 --> 01:15:08.872
[SPEAKER_01]: How about buses or beetles?

01:15:09.032 --> 01:15:10.053
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to pick one.

01:15:11.015 --> 01:15:12.096
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, dude, they're so fun.

01:15:12.116 --> 01:15:14.899
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at a different experience, bro.

01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:21.125
[SPEAKER_00]: I can have to deal with the bus because you're riding on the front beam and it's such a different experience to be to ride on the front beam.

01:15:22.066 --> 01:15:23.187
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, amen.

01:15:24.308 --> 01:15:25.389
[SPEAKER_01]: Aircooled or watercooled?

01:15:26.390 --> 01:15:26.991
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that sounds.

01:15:28.600 --> 01:15:34.044
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go with the air for sure.

01:15:34.524 --> 01:15:34.704
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:15:34.724 --> 01:15:35.445
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:15:35.865 --> 01:15:36.486
[SPEAKER_01]: I can take that.

01:15:36.986 --> 01:15:39.108
[SPEAKER_01]: My son has an MK 7.5.

01:15:40.189 --> 01:15:43.391
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a fan, but I'm also an air-cooled guy myself.

01:15:45.353 --> 01:15:47.034
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you're on a road trip right now.

01:15:47.094 --> 01:15:48.115
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a good question for you.

01:15:48.135 --> 01:15:51.298
[SPEAKER_01]: How about favorite road trip destination in a Volkswagen?

01:15:58.972 --> 01:16:03.295
[SPEAKER_01]: How about favorite concert that you've ever attended Volkswagen style?

01:16:06.557 --> 01:16:12.440
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't say it was Volkswagen style, but it was, it was what?

01:16:13.081 --> 01:16:17.284
[SPEAKER_00]: Work, work, work, work, yeah, okay, very cool.

01:16:17.984 --> 01:16:24.048
[SPEAKER_01]: How about maybe a dream dub that you don't own or have never owned?

01:16:26.457 --> 01:16:36.299
[SPEAKER_00]: The dream dog would be 23 window slams seat on green walls, white top, that's the dream right there.

01:16:36.779 --> 01:16:46.561
[SPEAKER_01]: So expensive these days, though, you see him going across the show room floor at the Barrett Jackson, and you're just like, what, like crazy, right?

01:16:47.321 --> 01:16:49.682
[SPEAKER_00]: I have one behind you down on the farm for nine grand.

01:16:50.568 --> 01:16:51.589
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my goodness.

01:16:52.409 --> 01:16:55.691
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish you say it still happened sometimes and I know that.

01:16:55.851 --> 01:17:09.679
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that there are some people out there living in this country that don't have an internet access that don't research that don't know that find this old rusty bus right and they're like, oh, this thing can't be worth much.

01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:17.183
[SPEAKER_01]: I know it still happens, but all right, how about this one one tool that you can't live without.

01:17:17.763 --> 01:17:24.268
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a floor deck or an impact gun, best advice that you've ever received Volkswagen related.

01:17:24.488 --> 01:17:33.415
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't say it's full scraggling, but it's been related, which I mentioned to you earlier there was a step back and take a breath and watch what you've created.

01:17:33.835 --> 01:17:36.177
[SPEAKER_00]: Much people enjoy themselves to prevent you to create it.

01:17:37.244 --> 01:17:40.545
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man, I can't even tie that into leadership as a whole.

01:17:41.405 --> 01:17:44.066
[SPEAKER_01]: I worked for a guy many years back as name was Terry.

01:17:44.246 --> 01:17:45.026
[SPEAKER_01]: Great manager.

01:17:45.166 --> 01:17:45.866
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a GM.

01:17:45.906 --> 01:17:47.027
[SPEAKER_01]: I was a sales manager.

01:17:47.947 --> 01:17:51.688
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would go to him for a weekly meetings.

01:17:52.048 --> 01:17:54.169
[SPEAKER_01]: We would meet with the rest of the department heads.

01:17:54.549 --> 01:18:02.851
[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes I would stress about the position or about KPI is or just about avenues of the position.

01:18:03.191 --> 01:18:04.511
[SPEAKER_01]: And he would tell me sometimes.

01:18:04.531 --> 01:18:06.132
[SPEAKER_01]: He'd be like, you know what you need to do, bro?

01:18:06.892 --> 01:18:11.735
[SPEAKER_01]: you need to sit back and you need to look at all of the success that you're having from the big picture.

01:18:12.075 --> 01:18:20.961
[SPEAKER_01]: Slow down long enough to sit back and like, you know, really taste the coffee, you know, that you're that your manufacturer and I'm like, okay.

01:18:22.602 --> 01:18:27.987
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, when you're in it in the hustle and bustle, it's kind of hard to really put yourself there.

01:18:28.427 --> 01:18:30.109
[SPEAKER_01]: But there were a few times that I would.

01:18:30.229 --> 01:18:35.253
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd go back and I'd look at, okay, let's go to last year's numbers and let's look at this year's numbers.

01:18:35.313 --> 01:18:40.658
[SPEAKER_01]: And let's see, damn, you know, we've grown 2 million, you know, revenue wise year over a year.

01:18:41.418 --> 01:18:46.243
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, he'd look at me and be like, yeah, that's a lot of your effort, bro.

01:18:47.194 --> 01:18:49.976
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, wow, you know, to see it there, right?

01:18:50.297 --> 01:18:57.122
[SPEAKER_01]: But in the day to day, I feel like I'm getting pushed back and I feel like I'm, you know, not getting along with the guys and, you know what I mean?

01:18:57.142 --> 01:19:00.024
[SPEAKER_01]: Like sometimes it can, so yeah, great advice.

01:19:00.365 --> 01:19:04.328
[SPEAKER_01]: Sit back and look at what you have created over time, great advice.

01:19:05.128 --> 01:19:05.669
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a good one.

01:19:05.689 --> 01:19:10.233
[SPEAKER_00]: What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what Volkswagen, what, sorry, a Volkswagen, what it's, um,

01:19:10.973 --> 01:19:16.959
[SPEAKER_00]: And you've heard, I mean, there's never a bad story about a Volkswagen, even if you break down, it's still a story.

01:19:17.539 --> 01:19:18.620
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, amen.

01:19:19.221 --> 01:19:19.521
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:19:19.601 --> 01:19:23.465
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where the best stories come from, actually, is in some of the hardships, right?

01:19:23.545 --> 01:19:24.265
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.

01:19:25.747 --> 01:19:30.051
[SPEAKER_01]: How about this one, favorite dub splash memory, fast, quick one?

01:19:31.132 --> 01:19:32.353
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, favorite dub splash memory.

01:19:32.393 --> 01:19:35.095
[SPEAKER_00]: That first one with Elia and crew, when

01:19:36.327 --> 01:19:39.169
[SPEAKER_00]: We had a torrential storm, no, no rain of forecast.

01:19:39.690 --> 01:19:40.851
[SPEAKER_00]: Two, three in the morning.

01:19:41.631 --> 01:19:49.418
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a downpour micro burst over the vent site where my kid and her husband are out in a tent being security guards for the night.

01:19:49.938 --> 01:19:54.422
[SPEAKER_00]: I haul over there and I'm holding down the big ass tent.

01:19:55.162 --> 01:20:04.390
[SPEAKER_00]: Larry should have hold it down from a micro burst and then he got to be back at the vent site at 6 a.m. after holding down like an hour run, torrential downpour, pretty gnarly.

01:20:04.957 --> 01:20:06.438
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't you know, it's all that, you know?

01:20:06.458 --> 01:20:09.461
[SPEAKER_01]: No, cool memory though, for sure.

01:20:09.481 --> 01:20:10.682
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, how about this one?

01:20:10.782 --> 01:20:11.382
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a good one.

01:20:12.463 --> 01:20:15.366
[SPEAKER_01]: One word that describes the Volkswagen community.

01:20:15.786 --> 01:20:17.207
[SPEAKER_00]: Just, I'm gonna go with vibrant.

01:20:17.988 --> 01:20:20.190
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that we have a great vibrant community.

01:20:20.310 --> 01:20:31.920
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going on all over, like talking to you, what you got going on down there, different guys that met throughout the country and the world, like there's such a vibrant community everyone's so stoked to be involved.

01:20:32.548 --> 01:20:40.254
[SPEAKER_01]: So let me ask you, you know, big picture-wise, just for the listeners because I know a lot of these guys that come to Doves Blash are probably going to tune into this.

01:20:40.334 --> 01:20:41.975
[SPEAKER_01]: What's next for Doves Blash?

01:20:42.015 --> 01:20:43.836
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the future look like for Doves Blash?

01:20:44.417 --> 01:20:45.397
[SPEAKER_00]: Just a continuous.

01:20:45.958 --> 01:20:47.779
[SPEAKER_00]: Like to continue our rat and gram for our egg.

01:20:48.400 --> 01:20:50.181
[SPEAKER_00]: The Fontana relationships growing great.

01:20:50.301 --> 01:20:52.082
[SPEAKER_00]: I got great relationship with my city there.

01:20:52.963 --> 01:20:59.488
[SPEAKER_00]: And to just make these two events is consistent and bigger and better every year.

01:21:02.895 --> 01:21:19.181
[SPEAKER_00]: And dub slash, um, Grand Prairie is becoming where we're gonna, you know, you're gonna have to pre-register to get in that show at some point in Texas, which, you know, we're not selling California and where we got like, you know, there's shows that are only air cool shows and only water cool shows.

01:21:19.481 --> 01:21:23.683
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we do dub splashes, breaking both groups together, and we're gonna do that fun tan of it.

01:21:23.963 --> 01:21:29.845
[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows what fun tan of it grow to, but it's really just making sure it's consistent and it stays around.

01:21:31.077 --> 01:21:32.818
[SPEAKER_01]: And where can people follow along?

01:21:32.858 --> 01:21:41.602
[SPEAKER_01]: Where can people follow the journey, support you, support the events, really become part of the the dubbest flash community, you know, give the website a shout out.

01:21:41.622 --> 01:21:44.364
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell people where they can find you are going to be found.

01:21:44.424 --> 01:21:47.085
[SPEAKER_00]: DubbSpash.com is just got rebuilt.

01:21:47.105 --> 01:21:55.830
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to be adding back to archive events, but it's up right now if this last year's events and the Fontana event with registrations open right now for Fontana California October 17th.

01:21:57.001 --> 01:21:58.402
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got a whole day of 50 70s.

01:21:58.583 --> 01:22:02.026
[SPEAKER_00]: I got a legend, skate order, Steve Alba's van playing PowerFlex.

01:22:02.506 --> 01:22:05.369
[SPEAKER_00]: Five, they got a monster stage of that one.

01:22:05.389 --> 01:22:07.851
[SPEAKER_00]: We got the whole skate park to be going off with skaters.

01:22:08.612 --> 01:22:10.194
[SPEAKER_00]: We got just over 200 cars last year.

01:22:10.214 --> 01:22:11.495
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's going to be a great one.

01:22:11.555 --> 01:22:12.476
[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to get on that one.

01:22:12.936 --> 01:22:18.221
[SPEAKER_00]: And then obviously, the VW Dev Splash on Facebook and Dev Splash on Instagram is where we're communicating.

01:22:18.681 --> 01:22:19.221
[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome, man.

01:22:19.942 --> 01:22:20.302
[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.

01:22:20.803 --> 01:22:30.511
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you spent your entire life proving that a skateboard, a hockey stick, even an old Volkswagen can bring a ton of people together, right?

01:22:30.651 --> 01:22:39.579
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes even in a world that feels more divided than ever, why do you think that communities built around passion still matter so much to people?

01:22:40.049 --> 01:22:40.831
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what to be honest with you.

01:22:40.871 --> 01:22:43.676
[SPEAKER_00]: I think people are getting back out and interacting now.

01:22:44.618 --> 01:22:49.629
[SPEAKER_00]: I think COVID took us away from that social media took us away from actual in person interaction.

01:22:50.210 --> 01:22:52.052
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's coming back around.

01:22:52.072 --> 01:22:56.795
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's really coming back around where people want to get out and be in person and do things.

01:22:57.436 --> 01:23:03.881
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really well said and even from a marketing perspective, my wife and I on a real estate brokerage down here in the Tampa Bay market.

01:23:04.601 --> 01:23:10.206
[SPEAKER_01]: And what's coming back, you know, 10 fold, swing and hard is direct mail.

01:23:10.906 --> 01:23:13.290
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, we're went out of style for a long time, right?

01:23:13.310 --> 01:23:14.492
[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of went out.

01:23:15.254 --> 01:23:23.829
[SPEAKER_01]: That kind of gorilla marketing style approach, you know, even, you know, knocking doors and shaking hands and that type of stuff, it's actually starting to work again.

01:23:25.534 --> 01:23:30.858
[SPEAKER_01]: People want that so I vibe with what you said and that's a wrap for this episode of Dub Life Diaries.

01:23:31.458 --> 01:23:37.003
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for riding along with us and diving into these incredible stories of the people in the Dub that drive their dreams.

01:23:37.603 --> 01:23:43.148
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01:23:43.728 --> 01:23:47.311
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have a story to tell or know somebody else who's living the dove life?

01:23:47.812 --> 01:23:48.152
[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.

01:23:48.593 --> 01:23:49.333
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01:23:49.493 --> 01:23:52.216
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01:23:52.717 --> 01:23:54.018
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01:23:54.258 --> 01:23:55.159
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01:23:55.579 --> 01:23:58.102
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01:23:58.582 --> 01:24:04.327
[SPEAKER_01]: Until next time, keep the engine tummin and the wheels turn in and always follow the road that inspires you.

01:24:04.708 --> 01:24:05.789
[SPEAKER_01]: This is Joe Person.

01:24:05.949 --> 01:24:06.790
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm signing off.

01:24:07.050 --> 01:24:08.892
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll catch you on the next ride.