Buddy Demers & Baby Got Sauce – A 64 -Notchback with an Incredible Story Ep74

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, most people see a car and they think that it's metal, that it's paint and it's parts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then every once in a while, somebody comes along that thinks something's a lot bigger with a car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes these cars even become a time machine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Today's guest owns a Volkswagen that's been on a journey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Most people would not even believe even if it was a movie script.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But from the original owner sent to Hawaii, brought back to Florida, powered by a legendary engine combination, connected to names that helped shape the air cool Volkswagen history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Somehow through all of it, the car is still here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: baby got sauce.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What a name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Isn't just the 1964 type three notch back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a rolling heirloom with decades of stories attached to every panel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Today we're diving into all of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Buddy Demors, welcome to Dublife Diaries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you and all these questions that you're about to ask me and how far that car has come.

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[SPEAKER_00]: very cool man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's back to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You ready?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So bring us back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell us how Volkswagen kind of became a part of your life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Volkswagen became a pretty standard part of my life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Back when I was

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was working at a coffee shop called the Beenery, which is no longer there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The coffee company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great place, and I met a girl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Her name was Liz Ramberg and everybody called her Lizard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She had a fattuation with Lizards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Her she drew out of a 64, but through her, I met a lot of good people, and it was the first time I had ever driven a Volkswagen above, no, I had ever seen one up until this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, up close, you know, everybody played Slugbug as a kid, but I'm right, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that little thing, man, I was mystified by that car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we drove it all over the place and everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a daily driver for her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she had a family friend at Edwards who Northwest Metalworks today is what he does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Custom suspensions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I fell in with him through her, and I ended up with my own bug some years down the road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He thought me how to keep that thing running for is he was always having some kind of issue with a tune up here tune up there and he taught me everything I needed to know about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is how Volkswagen's came into my life was through good people and I just grabbed on to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey man, you you you found the right culture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really did because I grew up in a Chevy household.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know my dad's always been a hot rider.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're garage full of, you know, classic Chevy's right now and I just finished power towards 2026 not three weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, driving a 57 Chevy down the road down Route 66 this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hell yes, and which is the 100 year right this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we did 3,561 miles in a 57 shabby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is so cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What a cool story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope to do it in Volkswagen's because there was a very large Volkswagen presence there this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, super cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's a lot of guys I've had on in the past that that have that kind of as a bucket list is to, you know, to arrive up in the the northern Chicago area, get all set up and come down and kind of take it across the across the nation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always say, hey, when you make the plans to do it, give me a shout, I probably won't come.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I probably can't come, but you never know hit me up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we hit up yet, but Mia, I think that'd be a really cool thing to do, too, in a dub.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is pretty neat to do, no matter what, it starts to jolly it, and we went all the way to Tulsa, because that's how far the runway, some people carry on all the way down to...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I forgot where it ends in California.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One day, I told my dad, we're going to have to ship the cars out there and finish the finish it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm totally wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a lot of the dubs this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a whole bunch of beetles and split window buses and double calves and right around the middle section.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In some way around, there's the St. Louis on down to, I want to say Springfield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: somewhere right around there, a whole bunch of them, like probably 70 of enjoy this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't do the whole thing, but I don't know how well folks like about fair doing that tour to be honest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Be an air cool man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That probably okay, you know, with some minor tweaking, probably okay, especially if you're dialed in, you know, for, for a road excursion, I just had a guy on on the podcast, not long ago, Dave Brownen, who's done almost 80,000 miles in just under 24 months in his panel split window panel, which is not comfortable, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, dude, this guy is clocking miles shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He'd be up for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And his boss would do fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm sure I'm sure what I'm going to trip like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I remember these these power tour things anywhere between 6 to 9,000 other people involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Police.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the role of intervenes in time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're hours on it and stop and go bumper to bumper idling and.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I haven't taken money on it yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You had mentioned something when you were kind of describing some stuff about the early days about your first Volkswagen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm I'm interested.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was your first VW said it was a beetle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My first Volkswagen oddly enough ended up being a 64 Volkswagen bud sunroof with bird car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And good friend of mine who actually was just down here, but a month and a half ago, maybe two months now, I actually took him to the two are Lusha Vidaum's monthly cruise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My buddy, TJ goes by flower now, whole life changing experience with him, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One day, he can tell that story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for all due respect for Colin Flower, early 20s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why don't all the time my mental is, I met TJ and Salem, get very good friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a long board together in race, downhill racing and long boards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So his mom was a probation officer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And well, he and me and the young and dumb kid, I was, I was on probation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I actually met his mom before I met him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she drove a 64-bug, son of a car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she sold it and regretted selling it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So TJ found it and she bought it back and restored it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it got hit and it sat around for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, some years later, his mom passed on, let's just say on her own terms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he approached me one day and said, I want you to have this car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm trying to look at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just nothing but bad memories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he gave me the car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was my first Volkswagen that I personally own.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, it was just 64 bug.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was, well, at the time it was covered in moss and mold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, uh, algae and have to take a pressure wash or do it a few times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a beautiful like Bahama blue color and it had been African cleanup because they had been fully restored by her or she had it fully restored by somebody local.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But over the years it sat sat sat sat actually passed it sat some more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know how that goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I took the car and took a part and repainted the car a different color.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First it was a big red transformer right on the side of the blue car that the auto box logo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was then I ended up scrubbing that off and painted the car black.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nine cans of rustily and black metal black and a male.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just to change the color of the coal art because, you know, like, look at that, and at this time, we were still really good friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're still powering around play changed the whole other car with the map black painted all the stainless red and uncle here in Florida sent me a set of what do they, the five spoke 55 spokes that were not polished, but they were cast like a tan cat's color.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got to the custom stuff where, you know, I had to top the relationship back with Ed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, because this was some years after Liz and I broke up and separated and whatnot, and when our own ways in life, um, she's doing great by the way, if you need you guys here here, the out in Oregon that here there's podcasts, uh, from what I know she's doing fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you know our teller of high for me, um, so she'll drive a Volkswagen, no more, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I had to take about 15, 18 years off myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, so the saga rebuilding that car ended up with, with me getting back in touch for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And at that time, he had started doing custom suspension and welding work for, for Nate West of wagons West.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of helping Nate build his brand because right when he started,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there was Derek Young right next door with Wagon Works, which anybody on the West Coast knows that name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And actually knows all of these guys I'm talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're kind of the ones that put me where I am today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: back in the day as far as my love for Vogue's wagons and help nurture it and Hey, I got this part here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can have it, though it on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what you got to do here in there and and allowed me to build my knowledge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and that was my first up was the 64-dog and man, that thing was unsafe to drive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw it, but by the end of it, he went and freaking, like, was it four or six?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this way, the front beam was so damn narrowed and so adjusted, I had to run Jackman and spit them out, so no front breaks on it, because that thing was so fucking narrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was an extremely not spring plates in the back, so the camera sounds so low every six months of replacement tires.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The pan head was flat because it was a lot of money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there must have looked so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it looked great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you some pictures sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lamb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't white-deckly it on the back, because the other one wrought it out and broke a hand job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it didn't match, but it was a cool, like, 80s-deckly it had some brown scalloping on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was a perfect offset.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and those wheels are still floating around somewhere that same set, the Jackman spit them out with the, the two that were a match set, Randolph's original Randolph's on the back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you'll see him in the picture whenever I dig it up and send it to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That car was so free and low that it would scrape reflectors off the road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Collect them in the fender wells.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was static.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would get stuck on a speed bump and get out of the car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like it, you know, I'm a little wider filter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My whole childhood, you know, I grew up around low-rout her cars and, you know, the lower the better, you know, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I vibe with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, were you always a type three guy or did that come later in your life?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's not a problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to that part in a story shortly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was wasn't too far after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After I built this car, this car,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to Sean Pelton, I went to I went to automotive school with him and Schermacher Community College of Oregon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He provided me the money and helped me build my first vote swag in the motor for that 64 foot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, and that thing was wild.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was some motor we found sitting around in the, in town.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we pulled out of a blast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had no for include what was in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Derek Young spotted me as said a cater on carburetors the 3234 cater on that we stuck on there and he put brass k-line bushings in the throttle shafts for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they went leak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we compiled this motor that was a hellian and get hot and had no end play in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were just lock it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you couldn't turn it by hand, but it ran like a rain thing with no for bricks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was definitely not safe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that somewhere down the line, it had given me a set of, I think it was 12 inch shovelers that I stuffed behind the back seat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I put a couple of six by nines in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was as basic as boom it everywhere and destroying people's driveways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, the trans axle of few times of like my job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I had got tired of that car Few years later and right around the corner from my grandmother's house at three blocks was a 71 square back and I had been watching it and watching it and just sat there for a year year and a half I had a doctor in door finally with was shot one day So hey, man What's with the square back?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll try to do this bug it runs, you know if you're a Volkswagen guy

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me 200 bucks until I got here and you can have it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we did that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I gave it to our next day and shot it off into his 86, 300 in line 64.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Toad it all the way back out to Sublimity Oregon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I put an $80 Boschial pump in it, electric pump.

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[SPEAKER_01]: drove that thing for a year and a half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had it up, given it to Sean, keep paying for the motor that he front of me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, worst mistake in my life is that thing was all the original inside and had the Bosch feel injection in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It worked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We replaced some of the hoses for the feel injection.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The interior was pristine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think Sean put a clutch in it in automotive class and he drove it for another four years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that was my first time three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was thought they looked funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, well, why do they call the beetle a bug when these tight threes look like a bug on a front end?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like an actual bug.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They look like a pre-manus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're elegant, but they're ugly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was my first tight threes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the nauseous my second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So in the, you know, you're,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got a bunch of names you're mentioning and you know you're clearly a part of the Volkswagen community slash scene from from you know way back when compared to now like what was the scene like when you first got involved with it, you know, I'm not going to say really compared to now because nothing really compares to you know old old old old old times are old days, but I don't know like what was the scene like when you first got into it was it like it is now was it different to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because when I first started doing this in my life, and was man, he was the guy, because he's the one that took all the risk and gained all the reward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you, this is the guy that influenced you most in the hobby back then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're still friends today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We followed each other, you know, 35 years now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, not as close as we once were,

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[SPEAKER_01]: check up on each other and whatnot like to see what he's doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But back then, he was the go team guy no matter which part of the scene you were in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Salem, in my opinion, in my observation, Salem had like three or four different groups of boats wagons and you were either hoodride,

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[SPEAKER_01]: better car ride being you've got a fully built car that's you know anything and everything everybody can want and perfect pay job and you know it's all put on your credit card and do it yourself basically hood ride we all know what hood rides are because that's what I can think and then you know air cool there are a lot of cool then air cool this is in that town

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[SPEAKER_01]: no keycars were a huge thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if you know about no keynational sir.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What that whole thing is with the low riders and the slam enough events.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I remember low rider magas and so as they call it out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I remember those events being.

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[SPEAKER_00]: nationally publicized, you know, in the late 90s, uh, I remember the Nopey events.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they were huge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were huge back then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like to say, I like to think that's where fast in the furious came from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was that culture blew up so much that they had to relate in a movie somehow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But okay, so they did those at the Salem, they did a, what was a drop zone every year would come through Salem fairgrounds in a, in Salem morning and add live right across the street and literally across the street from the fairgrounds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, at that time, he was the only one doing split window buses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he did the old buses like the 58 barn doors and, or, well, whatever, years the barn doors were, but he's been notorious for quite a few of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were always, you know, he was always changing, doing custom aerobatic suspensions, like rocker land or drag-and-or, whatnot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he was the guy that made this scene, and there was in a lock until a few years later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you go there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was, it was a very cool bit culture on the hood right side, because it wasn't a whole lot of people ran to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I tried to be into it, but I was a little late.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's weren't

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was just a little wait to the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I ended up with a second 64-bug that was a notorious food ride that was owned by Mikey who owned wagon works originally and Derek bought it from him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got that card from Ed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I traded him a 1964 XLCH sports tour for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a basket case that one of my mom's husbands that given me from Arizona.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need, I wanted to spend, and I wanted to badass custom suspension for my car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I bought that car with that motorcycle and I dragged it home and I took everything out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then literally, I know that was an Australian version, but so, you know, I took what I wanted from my car and I sold the rest of it off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I took the stock shit, put it on that car, put the custom stuff on my car, sold it some CAD out, and silver didn't really, I don't know, five, six hundred bucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not bad, come up, pre-custom loads, especially from my bug, plus six hundred bucks on something

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, so I thought some years later, there was an Australian car that was worth way more than mine was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just because of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But of course, still around today, um, and it was originally the, the, the stupid load car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I tried to mind it to the second rendition because everybody passed around the original.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So by being late to the hoodride scene, that's what I mean is I turned my hoodride off the legacy of something else as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to know what it was about and by then Ed had become popular enough and then I don't remember Justin's last name but he moved off of bugs into MK2's and And whatnot and the Nate came along and opened up the suspension company the wagons west You know then the scene blossomed and people came together

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the part I wasn't privy to until after I met Liz, before I owned my own car, was Mick Minville, every motor sports.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're dragging Gary where they did the three-day camp out out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a Volkswagen camp out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't go to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I only went, I think once I went out there,

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[SPEAKER_01]: way cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you don't know who every motor sports is today, you know, they do all the custom 356 outlaw cars right there in McMindell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And his son is, I think his name is Rod.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rod or Ron, I don't remember I never met him personally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still doing that today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's quite the story to tell, but that a big ol' piece of property and a Porsche graveyard out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And from my knowledge of it, is they had bought all the licensed Porsche parts when they outlawed the cars in the US, and they could bought them all and sat on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For a long time, it tells some deal was up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was able to go into business for reproducing or retro modding, if you will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I think he's also the guy that was responsible for the Bob originally, not the 60s crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, remember here it's something about that at one point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, there's a pretty cool thing to see, you know, and being privy to that, and then move it on to Woodburn drag strip, which still goes on today, they do the Volkswagen drags out there, and that's a big swatie, everything on Woodburn, but once I got a grasp of that my life changed drastically, stupid decisions, a few else, my own follies, so I lost touch of all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, I fell out of the Volkswagen scene somewhere in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a 74, 75 Westy involved at TJ and I and flower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you will, we bombed it all over the coast until we ran the wheels off it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We called that one the wheels of Armageddon and we just take it on our longboards in the back and go sleep and campgrounds and bomb and hills.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the Volkswagen scene for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Never really did shows outside of those ones, never did cruises, wasn't a thing back then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Today, folks who I can seem today in that area, I have no clue what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know the boys are still doing their thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still hold the down the Salem area.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've expanded.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nate's almost gone worldwide at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm pretty sure it had is, whatever he's doing with his Northwest Metal Works thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was, I see him all over the place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see buses here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, those filled with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All the Nate's, Nate's suspensions are all over him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's wild to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very wild to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But here we have a culture that I didn't experience

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get far enough into it over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope that answers that question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 25 years, 25, 30 years later, what keeps you passionate about Volkswagen still all these years later?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The simplicity of the car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How a car can be so simple, so basic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's so smooth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: fulfilling, and elegant, and nurturing, and raw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, it needs to be a commercial.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I don't know what it is, man, but I got my hands on my first one, and everyone of all in sense is just, I get that raw passion with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, man, maybe what it is is that nobody expects them to be a certain way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You go to a regular class of car show and everybody expects them to be a certain way, if it's an order or a Dodge or a 57 Chevy, you know, they expect them to be a certain way to have this or that and expect you not to do this or that to them, not with Volkswagen's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is the embodiment of you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You make it what you want it to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And nobody cares that it's not the same as the next guys, or that it's not a 100% original or that it's, it's got gold scallops on the roof.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what it's?

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[SPEAKER_01]: People start caring about the way your car looks, what it starts looking like everyone else is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, that's, that's what I love about is they, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't have it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I vibe with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's, let's touch on baby got sauce behind me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, tell me about about this car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When did it first come into your family's life?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The story is I know it of baby got sauce.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What a cool name to you, by the way, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, okay, we'll start there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When I finished building the car, a few years back, well, when I put the car on the road, this is whenever I finished building it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was sitting in my garage, and I'm a huge G-Lovin special sauce fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of my favorite music artists.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in fact, actually, Brian Bounsell turned me on to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When I first met him, it was a, it was a, it was a big fan himself, and it stuck with me, the music stuck with me, and I'm sitting in my garage, I turned the key, everything worked out as planned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It started right up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I took it for its first drive in my hands, and man was that thing zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy zippy

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so now what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What am I going to call this car?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that song came up, baby got sauce.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's like, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's perfect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As a look at the car, it gets a saucy out of a wheel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there it goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we need to baby got sauce.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There it goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it says.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a personal front license plate says.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this car, for my understanding and everything I've put together,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, tonight I never talked to Uncle about where he got the car, um, only that he had the car and what he's done with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somewhere around 1987 that the car was purchased from the original owner, and I have the bill of sale, and I have the title, and that person was, uh, Daytona or Orminer winter park somewhere, I'll dig it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll go about the car and he shipped it to Pupukaya.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where he's from in Hawaii.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where him and Auntie lived or lived.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he drove the car all over the place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was his favorite car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was the man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody had a notch back back then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even knew what they were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he drove it all over Hawaii.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was being into the Volkswagen scene over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you've ever been over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have it personally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a lot of friends that are from there and family that's from there and vote so actin's did they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 10 to 1 if you will on the class of cars over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: so that the scene is gin dormits.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're all into the bracket racing and the auto cross and drag racing with those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The point with serious guys is we're back and forth between California and shipping the cars back and forth doing that for this day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I'll call that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he took this car back there and he drove it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He drove it all over to Island and working and somewhere a big 90s human out there move back here to

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where's the University of the Ozeza or Lando?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's in Orlando, but the section winter park or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, they live right across the street in the condo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he brought the car back and still drove it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's when he was a make your dea, one of the five star restaurants up there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then eventually they moved down here to the shore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's where auntie's father lived and her sister, and her sister, she's got a twin sister, which was my stepmother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mary's my dad for 14 some ideas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they all moved down here to the shoulders down here in Daytona and Uncle Jove that car back and forth from Orlando when he wanted to, you know, quite often, quite often.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he became friends with what he moved down here in the early 90s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He became friends with

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[SPEAKER_01]: aren't as some people call Ernest Racing, I call Ernest Performance, which scooters retired now, but they were best friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those two built a relationship that I've only been told about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Uncle would leave for work early every day and even bring scooter lunch and they would sit and talk about Volkswagen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he helped them build his, he had us, I think it was a 69 bug.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a race bug.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that I believe, I believe now that her health is better, scooters wife is racing again, is racing his car now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you would have to talk to J.C. or Brian, the Clark Brothers, or maybe Ben Anderson would know better than I do, where that car is at today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause they don't really talk to scooter much that they really know outside of this car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, he would take a much every day and they built a relationship to the last of the lifetime.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just quite funny to hear him talk about it, because, you know, scooters this little old, uh, in my opinion, a little comedy-wide guy and he got this little, Hawaiian dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you see what it looks like and stick together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: obviously it should be, and it's just funny thing, it's funny thing to say, but, you know, those two are inseparable as far as friendship goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's very cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what this Volkswagen community does brings, brings people together, relationships, friendships like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly what it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was that card?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Notched back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The scooter was, I guess, the only one that knew about those cars around the area.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's formed a bond between the two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: that's where the car came from and then of course when Uncle Pastor car was left to be yeah so what are what are some of your earliest memories of the car I guess because I mean yours what maybe what condition was it in when you when you took took the wheel when I first saw the car the whole car was the answer site granted the original color of the car that was 17 years ago now when I first moved here to Florida from Oregon

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uncle took me for a ride in the first time I'd ever knew what a five-speed was in a Volkswagen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I remember Bob and I crossed a delotent bridge going back to the choice one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you got fifth gear?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, we got fifth gear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was the first time I'd ever seen the car or rode in the car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That first time seen a notch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That happened years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: didn't know I'm that well, but he had one that was almost the color of your shirt actually, you know, and a white top, I think it was, but anyway, so there's a first of my small uncle's card shortly after that, well, I get ahead of myself, I had come here, my grandfather was down here and he was not, he was battling cancer, my grandfather was battling cancer, throw cancer,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I come here, that's why I first saw Daniel's car, and he took me for a ride in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I went back to Oregon, because I, by daughter, it was just born and my first wife, and I were, you know, we couldn't afford to stay down here real.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So shortly after that, you know, going back to Oregon, my grandfather passed away from his battle with cancer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A year, no less than a year later, I moved down here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why if I separated it, I moved down here to come work for my dad, but at that time, right at that time when I moved down here, we took the car to Kevin Chamberlain, Chamberlain Rodden Customs at the time, or what do we call it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Air Cold Rose Down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It goes what it's called.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a pretty area renowned painter in the Volkswagen guy here in the pollution county.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He actually did the paint on the top of the car to the touch up and the pearl clear that's on it now We took the car to him and he took the whole car apart and then fixed all the metal work And the car got painted that green color with the anti-psychle great top The two-tone color is what I went to tone well the car sounded around sat around because by that time Oklahoma had developed lung cancer

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the car went to scooters and put the motor and trans combination in it in a sat scooters for years on years because we never knew what to do with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My father, you know, he was trying to facilitate putting the car back together before uncle was not able to drive it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: never happened because the health went downhill pretty quickly and we can never figure out what to do with the car and get the parts for it because at this time they weren't being re-producted so or reproduced so they came from the UK a lot of the parts for that car interiorized motors, motor parts, motor parts so the car sat and sat and then

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say five years ago now, maybe four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After he passed and got wrist to soul and I'll see you put it on the tow truck right straight on the scooters unfinished and it's shut up to my house on day four flat tires, stuffed full of parts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was bumpers hanging out of the windows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was parts in the front and the trunk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all the interior was stripped out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was all bare metal inside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was all piled in there and all the other stuff I had picked up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's sat in my garage for a year and a half before I even touched it and I went through it all and I spent the next year and a half just you know swap me to swap me I don't need this I don't need that you know selling all this stuff which hindsight I realized a lot of it was there was a rare collectible part it's not just around the middle parts so somebody got a lot of real good deals and you thank for everything

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I saw the, I saw the lot of the parts and you know, to pay the rebuild the car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And finally when I got to it, I spent probably six and a half months, I'm gonna whole car back together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in my garage, that was my wife, like, are you coming to bed?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you know, not, not, not like at this part of it and I taught myself about those cars of the book and the manual, not a whole lot of Google, but a book and a family, and that's just the person I am, you know, it's kind of one of those,

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[SPEAKER_01]: it's about when it comes to mechanical stuff and I look at a diagram and boom I picture in my head I look at a part and I can take it apart and exploit a diagram in my head and all aspects of mechanical stuff and that's why I do what I do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's wild but you're you're trained there right I mean you went to you went to school for for this right I'll basically

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it also just learned on my own, but the industrial side that I do with my family business and what I've done with you and growing up is like in Tom McKenzie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so I rebuilt this car in my wife's like, what the hell?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What the hell?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What the hell?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What the hell?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you do with all these parts?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this whole room I'm sitting in was,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing apart, so there was no walking room in this room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, there's still a dash cover sitting right over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shaderu, so if you're listening, you're supposed to come pick that up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, and that's how I got the color.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Two years ago, I put it on the road as, you know, as you see it or while as you've seen it, but it all changed November.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what it is today with the golden roof of the interior.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The engine is special, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just some?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's special because scooter built it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me just follow the other motor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What makes scooter building it special?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What makes the engine unique?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's an 1800.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's built on a 74 crank and 88 thick walls.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Real, 80 thick wall pistons and jugs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which makes it a flat, 1800.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not entirely certain where the parts came from because to my knowledge, when I asked Scooter about it,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a 71 block, it's an 1,800 motor, but he built it in the early 90s for some counting John Bowen out of the land, and it was a peppy motor, and this thing's got, you know, this is back when FAT performance was a thing, head guys, you know, performance heads, and it's got a set of FAT performance heads on it, digging into the car,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because the scooter didn't tell me too much about what's inside of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just said, ah, it's just the motor I threw together back in the 90s and surprised it's still running.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But having the motor in and out of the car so many times, you know, and taking everything off and looking at part numbers and whatnot, doing my own research, you know, it's a bird crank shaft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a 74 millimeter bird crank and it's got a matched light and fly wheel in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's got

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[SPEAKER_01]: burn high flow oil pump on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not too certain of piston and rod combination, but I know it's got to think, keep the form of heads and the big valve heads in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's got dual DC and F burn special carburetors on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, this thing's got the frigging cherry shit in it, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is a very cherry motor to run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little temperamental.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's what makes the motor special is his back in those days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what people did, you know, how to hire audio folks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I clearly certain that motor was built off the specs in that book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the only reason I know that is because I've had the majority of that motor part short of switching or sort of split the case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, because I'm just that person, you know, I, I get one little oily cook on the bench and goes tear apart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as I do with that, okay, what is this, what is this, what is this, this worked obviously for a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want this back, but it's not easy as plug and play with that thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, match this, does this work with that and it's, you know, I came to find out quite a bit of what was in that motor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How often does the question come up of hey, what's in that thing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this way, if I go to a show, you won't find me here, my car because you get asked too much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I first brought that thing to no doubt, but very first year I brought it to no doubt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I made the mistake of sitting next to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the end of the day, I wanted a pre-recorded DVD on a portable planet that's just a play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have so much time to talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, it comes up a lot, it comes up a lot, and, you know, months, dub guys don't really ask me unless it comes up a conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's everybody else, as a little late now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't, you don't talk about Bruna.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh you had mentioned john bone earlier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bowen, but yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bowen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell me about John Bowen for people that don't know who John Bowen is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never met the guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what I know is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: a legacy that I've been able to find through talking to various people that know the name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's what I want you all a little bit from Scooter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I talked to JC about him for a moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the best I could come up with a piece together with, he got into some trouble in the 90s here in Volusia County.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I tell that the whole line to get out of trouble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because 65 notch back with him and took that motor and the transmission,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I took it all back to Hawaii and during that time, Uncle ran into him in Hawaii.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the guy just assembled the car, Uncle bought the motor and trance, which was a Mikey five speed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you know anything about, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mikey El, up in Portland, Oregon, would bird develop the five speed, Mikey El developed the five speed, and there was a big clash, and it's all over Bird's website, trashed talking to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: About the five speeds, and that's the guy he's talking about, and those tech articles, about the way they do this, and that how it doesn't work, and yeah, yeah, yeah,

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[SPEAKER_01]: he bought this motor trans from it from him and shipped it back here and put it in that car and had the scooter put it in that car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if you ask me, I don't think scooter did ever expect to see that stuff again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know you'd have to ask him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But here it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like you five is now sitting in my garage on the bench is like, well, gear went out, but I got over a place of fifth gear, but the motor still lives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The local lower was that I got into legal trouble in high till the end of town and that's all I know about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe somebody listen to this has more information on the man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to meet him one day and he's still alive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I got your voter initials, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still have a bill of sale for the, for the 65 notch back, but that motor came out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why local has it, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: it's there, it's in the paperwork, and it's got his name on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's up, up, up, up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, yeah, do you think craftsmanship in the VW community today is here, or do you think that it's disappearing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's a subjective question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do all my homework.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My interior work was done by me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My mechanics is done by me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing I haven't done on that car, particularly is the rotating assembly in the motor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I am that guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am the craftsmanship guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I wanted that, I learned how to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It taught myself how to do the interior.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My sewing machine sitting right here next to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That I bought to do the embroidery work in the car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see partnerships not gone in the Volkswagen community, but it's coveted and it's held close and it's not passed around like it needs to be because you get people like me that are multi-talented, people like Gary, job breaker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's very good at doing things that he taught himself how to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He does things for other people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Jeff Gardner, AC Auto House.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He does things for other people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they sell their craftsmanship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have very few people that I help.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I offer to help a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very few people who I charge to help.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Put it that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't make a dime off the craftsmanship unless it's extensive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of to be a subjective question because a lot of it's about, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it widely publicized?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a lot of people ask, hey, who did that work?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you do this yourself?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of people assume it's one of the big five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Big five is a generic statement that I use to say, because there's only so many people that do it for everyone else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: John Boe, who John Boe is, I'm in California.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The guy that helps Charlie down here at Daytona,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He builds voters and translates us for other people, crossmanship, you know, custom work for your buddy Allen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is true, crossmanship right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't for other people now, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a craftsman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, and he's, he's not passing it on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's selling it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you asked me a question like that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, well, let's break that down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you profiting off the craftsmanship or are you sharing it and passing it on so it survives?

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[SPEAKER_01]: As a reminder, I don't do just Volkswagen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do custom parlies, I do custom pot rods that you did a day on and mode of work as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Day-day stuff, I'll charge people for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when it comes to the custom stuff, it's something a skill set that needs to be passed on before it gets forgotten.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, no, it's not, it's not, to answer your question with my own roundabout answer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not narrow, it's very much not so, and it needs to be well, because these cars are what you make them and you make them your own, which is the beautiful thing about it, but at the same time, I see a lot of people mess them up because they're not being passed, the craftsmanship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, everybody takes the time to make sure the ceiling surfaces are flat, that you have the right gasket that you use in the right sealant, you know, that your clearance is your proper, that's crossmanship, that's turning a wrench, just turning a wrench, so it's a hard question to answer, I think you did pretty good.

51:39.462 --> 51:46.984
[SPEAKER_00]: let's talk about the hobby as a whole how it's changed what's what's better today and maybe what's even what's worse today in the hobby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't say anything's worse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really can't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's be positive then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about what's better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's better is availability.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's very good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen them, you know, West Coast metric, J-bugs, all of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if you like them or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but they've stepped up to the plate and started reproducing the hard to find stuff, no matter what.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here, it costs a little extra, but you're not finding it anywhere else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're not keeping these cars running without it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a very big positive right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything's made in China today, so we can't help that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As a person, you know, my main business, I was just in the UK.

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[SPEAKER_01]: my boundaries are there for my parts.

52:32.917 --> 52:44.148
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we take the steps to make the parts ourselves on certain things because we understand even our parts that we're selling our consumers are coming from for a good China to the quality sucks.

52:44.168 --> 52:51.755
[SPEAKER_01]: So it takes a lot of effort to go forth and reproduce some of something to to sell to the public in a mass quantity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And these guys are doing it and they're still keeping things affordable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So unfortunately, you have to go to China for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're doing it is the point, you know, just that car alone, that 60% of notch, there's a lot of things that are, unless you've had the car apart or you understand the

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[SPEAKER_01]: intricacies of one of these cars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Geo parts are interchangeable with these because they're the same style and design and there's really slight differences.

53:22.179 --> 53:27.362
[SPEAKER_01]: Only a type three guy is gonna know the difference between a door handle and a geo and on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What you can't find them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Short of shipping them from the UK, you can't find NOS stuff for the car around here.

53:35.967 --> 53:36.267
[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just really the positive and the positive also is I've noticed the culture as we talked about earlier it's not clicky it's not as clicky anymore it's all inclusive and all welcoming and shout out to Lonnie and his wife Patty for that one around an art area.

53:57.821 --> 54:02.125
[SPEAKER_01]: You know they really resurrected this pollution beat-ups thing which I was never a part of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I only heard the horror stories about what had happened with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but it was very clicky for a long time with my understanding and he almost came on the show last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was about this close.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were like two or three days out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, Hey, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not coming on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe some other time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I never, I never questioned it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, this is for the people, literally.

54:31.852 --> 54:33.553
[SPEAKER_00]: I do this for the people.

54:33.974 --> 54:36.736
[SPEAKER_00]: If you ain't comfortable or don't want to come on, I ain't gonna twist your arm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's no big deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's all about the people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

54:41.880 --> 54:42.220
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

54:43.021 --> 54:47.325
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a great thing to see him do this and take it over and bring the community together.

54:47.825 --> 54:51.088
[SPEAKER_01]: On all fronts, we've got new cars, we've got buzz.

54:51.708 --> 54:53.710
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we've got air pools, and we brought,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Volkswagen's together, so that's the positive part about it, you know, it's not just classics, but the classics we have brought together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've watched him open it up and make feel people feel welcome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that right there is a big thing in Carculture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's feeling welcome on the other side of it, though.

55:14.847 --> 55:20.971
[SPEAKER_01]: The, the, the hot rods and the Chevy's and Ford guys, man, this guys don't have any idea what Carculture is.

55:21.832 --> 55:24.874
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a fucking white new balance of pair of shorts and he's credit cards bigger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a few of them that I know that are all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But mostly, and that's what separates it.

55:35.163 --> 55:41.205
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the positive part about it is you don't have to be special You don't have to have hundreds of thousands of dollars into these cars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to have a one-off car You're welcome no matter what Positive, you know, I've never once been doing a Volkswagen event where somebody got to fistfight if they did It's because it was mutual and they were messing around

55:58.213 --> 56:12.724
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, uh, plenty of plenty of other hotrod shows where there's been people getting the fights and arguments because, well, they're Corvette is one of one because of this particular color, but that guy has the same color on his literally wash fights break out over that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, not, not my, not my folks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's hard to be on both ends of the alley a bit, but I don't have the, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do I even want to say?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the mojo?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have the mojo anymore.

56:28.778 --> 56:40.284
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't have the fire in my belly anymore to really care that much about like being physical or violent about some cars and some culture for oh, no, no, no.

56:40.344 --> 56:42.085
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never been a physically violent person.

56:42.365 --> 56:43.226
[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to chill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm guilty of.

56:47.828 --> 56:53.394
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've been in situations I've been heated and I'm here, sure, sure, stress is everywhere, right?

56:53.414 --> 56:56.017
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I've never gone out and started a fight with somebody.

56:56.538 --> 57:04.326
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been in fights with people with me, but So the enthusiast today, are they, are they different from back in the day?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or are they not?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hard to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hard to say, um, not a lot of people my age into this thing.

57:13.910 --> 57:17.413
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm only 43 and not a lot of people my age that I know of.

57:20.210 --> 57:28.035
[SPEAKER_01]: Evolved around here, a lot of other folks, you know, pass by age and younger than me.

57:28.176 --> 57:32.218
[SPEAKER_00]: I was talking about enthusiasts how they've changed if they've changed.

57:32.258 --> 57:40.804
[SPEAKER_00]: Are they different now versus, you know, back in the day, because here's the thing, man, a lot of guys that I talked to or you're on two sides of the street.

57:40.824 --> 57:48.589
[SPEAKER_00]: You've either been a Volkswagen enthusiast since high school, right, or you've been a Volkswagen enthusiast in the last, you know, 10, 15 years.

57:49.753 --> 57:50.914
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, I know what you're saying.

57:51.114 --> 57:55.817
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so I'm just trying to compare, like you've been an enthusiast for a long-ass time.

57:55.877 --> 58:09.046
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm trying to compare the enthusiast from your original stories from back way back in the day to enthusiast these days around where you're at, you know, have they changed?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are they different?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or are they the same car culture type people?

58:13.369 --> 58:19.233
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, all those enthusiasts that I knew back in the day when I got my kid, they're still going strictly Volkswagen.

58:21.000 --> 58:25.184
[SPEAKER_01]: That's American or water cool Volkswagen's, but they're still doing it.

58:26.305 --> 58:30.689
[SPEAKER_00]: My son's got a 20 20 7.5 mk 7.5.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a badass car, man.

58:33.071 --> 58:33.372
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.

58:34.012 --> 58:34.853
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know anything about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a cool car.

58:37.796 --> 58:41.539
[SPEAKER_00]: It's got a two liter turbo in it and it's it's peppy and

58:42.919 --> 58:45.541
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's I'm glad he has it.

58:45.741 --> 58:48.783
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a fan, but I like my, you know, I like low and slow.

58:50.043 --> 58:52.945
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like all that fast stuff and, you know, I got a bad back to you.

58:52.965 --> 58:54.486
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to keep me away from all them.

58:55.186 --> 58:57.548
[SPEAKER_00]: Pin you to your seat, type, type vibes.

58:58.108 --> 58:58.428
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

58:58.969 --> 58:59.209
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So today, the enthusiast that I know are all my senior.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they, you know, they've been doing it for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I honestly, I can't really answer that question because one, everybody I know is still into it.

59:17.556 --> 59:20.519
[SPEAKER_01]: And the ones I do know today have been into it long and I've never known them.

59:21.119 --> 59:22.420
[SPEAKER_00]: I got one of your clients are then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How about shows?

59:24.041 --> 59:33.328
[SPEAKER_00]: How have shows changed from, because you said you used to have like your few shows that you were, you would participate in back in the early days to now.

59:33.528 --> 59:34.649
[SPEAKER_00]: How have shows changed?

59:35.715 --> 59:38.597
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, a lot, a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my few folks who I can chose to participate in were fantastic.

59:44.980 --> 59:52.344
[SPEAKER_01]: It was all those, like it's now I did do a lot of classic car shows that I wouldn't go with a car.

59:52.464 --> 59:54.826
[SPEAKER_01]: I would attend, you know, check it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always been a thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Different culture.

01:00:00.012 --> 01:00:02.275
[SPEAKER_01]: different culture, way different culture.

01:00:02.776 --> 01:00:05.840
[SPEAKER_01]: And then come into the East Coast, and you will get back into the cars.

01:00:06.060 --> 01:00:10.567
[SPEAKER_01]: The car she in here is a little different than...

01:00:11.810 --> 01:00:12.551
[SPEAKER_01]: the West Coast.

01:00:13.832 --> 01:00:15.133
[SPEAKER_01]: We do things differently here.

01:00:15.554 --> 01:00:23.722
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, that's what I love about Lonnie is he's bringing the West Coast flavor to the East Coast vibe when he does these shows that he does.

01:00:24.383 --> 01:00:25.745
[SPEAKER_01]: And I am 100%.

01:00:25.765 --> 01:00:28.087
[SPEAKER_01]: See, he says we're doing a show?

01:00:28.387 --> 01:00:33.433
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm all about helping him volunteer on those shows because of that because I love to see the way he does it.

01:00:34.342 --> 01:00:37.224
[SPEAKER_01]: He brings that culture and that enthusiasm we're talking about.

01:00:37.244 --> 01:00:38.404
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.

01:00:38.765 --> 01:00:42.347
[SPEAKER_01]: He went and I'll tell you the biggest difference that when was it?

01:00:42.387 --> 01:00:47.089
[SPEAKER_01]: It was 20, I want to say 24, no, I think it's 2023.

01:00:48.090 --> 01:00:50.671
[SPEAKER_01]: I went to a customer in Chino, California.

01:00:51.171 --> 01:00:57.055
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just so happened to be Moody's New Year's party at Irwindale Speedway was that weekend.

01:00:58.836 --> 01:01:02.618
[SPEAKER_01]: So I had the weekend off and Irwindale was only 20 minutes from my hotel.

01:01:03.276 --> 01:01:09.420
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I went down there and first car shot I've ever been to California and it was a movie that I showed at that in a drag race.

01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:10.680
[SPEAKER_01]: It's way cool.

01:01:11.061 --> 01:01:18.485
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's a Volkswagen's tons of shabby's forks and everything else there because, well, it's immunized and it's drag strip.

01:01:20.406 --> 01:01:26.330
[SPEAKER_01]: But the first thing I know is going there is I sat and was like, whoa, this is nothing like home.

01:01:26.810 --> 01:01:31.053
[SPEAKER_01]: As you go, you go to a car show here everybody's in line and it's lined up.

01:01:34.325 --> 01:01:36.166
[SPEAKER_01]: in the car, nobody's communicating.

01:01:36.186 --> 01:01:37.167
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not grouped up.

01:01:37.267 --> 01:01:39.508
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, down the line.

01:01:40.729 --> 01:01:42.390
[SPEAKER_01]: No certain order of who's with who?

01:01:42.650 --> 01:01:46.052
[SPEAKER_01]: Unless they, you know, happen to roll in together.

01:01:46.813 --> 01:01:47.553
[SPEAKER_01]: Go over there.

01:01:49.194 --> 01:01:50.455
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't walk through the parking lot.

01:01:50.475 --> 01:01:52.996
[SPEAKER_01]: The parking lot itself is a car show.

01:01:53.657 --> 01:01:55.538
[SPEAKER_01]: The car show just happens to be there.

01:01:56.462 --> 01:02:02.024
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the West Coast car show man, it blew my freaking mind because I'm over there like, yeah, all right.

01:02:02.044 --> 01:02:02.944
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm building this notch.

01:02:03.384 --> 01:02:03.624
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:02:03.644 --> 01:02:04.765
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me see what they got out here.

01:02:04.805 --> 01:02:05.545
[SPEAKER_01]: This is California.

01:02:05.585 --> 01:02:07.145
[SPEAKER_01]: This is land of the dub over here.

01:02:08.006 --> 01:02:08.926
[SPEAKER_01]: I walk in the parking lot.

01:02:09.106 --> 01:02:09.906
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a notch back.

01:02:10.086 --> 01:02:10.986
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a square back.

01:02:11.026 --> 01:02:11.667
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a bus.

01:02:11.707 --> 01:02:12.267
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a bug.

01:02:12.287 --> 01:02:13.287
[SPEAKER_01]: There's all the sudden.

01:02:13.307 --> 01:02:15.528
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a hundred freaking boats wagons in one corner.

01:02:16.523 --> 01:02:17.504
[SPEAKER_01]: four different car clubs.

01:02:18.325 --> 01:02:22.148
[SPEAKER_01]: But each club has a tent up and a barbecue going and all their guys right there.

01:02:22.629 --> 01:02:26.953
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I turn around after looking at all these looks like it's I go to the other side of the parking lot.

01:02:27.213 --> 01:02:27.894
[SPEAKER_01]: Holy shit.

01:02:28.314 --> 01:02:29.395
[SPEAKER_01]: Chicano low riders.

01:02:30.156 --> 01:02:36.782
[SPEAKER_01]: A whole bunch of them all lined up again tents tent tent barbecue barbecue cars on display.

01:02:37.142 --> 01:02:39.965
[SPEAKER_01]: The car show is in the parking lot not the actual car show.

01:02:41.225 --> 01:02:41.885
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all vendors.

01:02:42.986 --> 01:02:44.246
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all vendors in a drag race.

01:02:44.646 --> 01:02:48.487
[SPEAKER_01]: So their culture over there is ridiculous compared to ours.

01:02:48.988 --> 01:02:50.668
[SPEAKER_01]: It ruined the car shows from here.

01:02:51.968 --> 01:02:54.509
[SPEAKER_01]: It just took all the lustre out of them over here.

01:02:56.050 --> 01:02:56.650
[SPEAKER_01]: So now it's

01:02:58.027 --> 01:03:24.235
[SPEAKER_01]: And on the regular car sales, I stick to the books and I can share this because, you know, it's, it's very welcoming and it's just a weird thing is it's hard to describe unless you've experienced it for yourself, the difference between the two, so let's touch how it's changed push on social media, how has social media affected the hobby, you know, you said earlier,

01:03:25.117 --> 01:03:32.723
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, this was before the days where we could Google stuff, you know, or watch a YouTube video, you know, to help us fix things or whatever.

01:03:33.343 --> 01:03:36.906
[SPEAKER_00]: How has social media affected the hobby over time?

01:03:39.207 --> 01:03:51.376
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, quite positively, actually, uh, you know, in our communities in the Volkswagen community, especially, uh, I don't see a lot of trash fog and when somebody's trying to figure something out,

01:03:53.255 --> 01:04:01.719
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, of course everybody calls out the blatant obvious, you know, the ones that lacked the firm grip of the obvious, other own questions, but that's just social media rising.

01:04:02.680 --> 01:04:19.849
[SPEAKER_01]: But as a whole social media has, I think has really led to a lot of people be able to do their own work to help them build the confidence in doing or figuring out what it is they're trying to figure because you go in there, hey, I've got this

01:04:22.404 --> 01:04:29.649
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if you don't like that person's answer, wait five more minutes, nine more people will answer with nine more different things to say to you about it.

01:04:29.669 --> 01:04:38.416
[SPEAKER_01]: So it gives you a good understanding that you can formulate your own opinion and extrapolate what you need out of it to solve your problem.

01:04:39.277 --> 01:04:40.437
[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna have that back in the day.

01:04:41.078 --> 01:04:42.459
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's almost instant now.

01:04:42.519 --> 01:04:43.720
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I can be out there.

01:04:44.160 --> 01:04:45.922
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey guys, I got this.

01:04:47.543 --> 01:04:49.784
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody tell me real quick what this piece of it does

01:04:52.555 --> 01:05:00.118
[SPEAKER_01]: And 20 minutes later, you've got an answer, which back in the day you did that, you had to go find the person that you got, and you wanted to time you had the time to do that.

01:05:00.138 --> 01:05:07.241
[SPEAKER_01]: Your four days down the road, by the time you get the information out of them, and learn how to do it, understand what you're talking about, your other two days down the road.

01:05:07.601 --> 01:05:11.763
[SPEAKER_01]: So then your other four days down the road, before you try to put the part back on and you forgot it all.

01:05:14.665 --> 01:05:17.667
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree, man, I think it's been a super positive thing.

01:05:18.728 --> 01:05:23.091
[SPEAKER_00]: Technology has even allowed things like this podcast to be produced.

01:05:24.112 --> 01:05:31.517
[SPEAKER_00]: And smashed all over social media, you know, all the outlets that are there, all the podcast platforms that are there.

01:05:32.037 --> 01:05:34.539
[SPEAKER_00]: This podcast has been downloaded in like 78 countries.

01:05:36.226 --> 01:05:40.351
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, well, what a Volkswagen, I'm just making it feel pretty good.

01:05:40.391 --> 01:05:41.512
[SPEAKER_01]: You should be pretty proud of that.

01:05:41.993 --> 01:05:50.643
[SPEAKER_00]: I am, I am, for sure, but what I'm more proud of is I'm proud of our culture and our community, because it's that cool.

01:05:51.363 --> 01:05:55.769
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so cool that people are willing to grin and bear in other languages.

01:05:57.289 --> 01:06:01.431
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, which is just so, so cool.

01:06:02.011 --> 01:06:10.693
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I'm, I'm, you know, kind of over time, I've watched this whole YouTube and social media thing, you know, really kind of explode.

01:06:11.253 --> 01:06:12.314
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel the same way.

01:06:12.374 --> 01:06:12.754
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like,

01:06:13.474 --> 01:06:14.856
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's a positive.

01:06:15.096 --> 01:06:24.426
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, I remember when YouTube was first coming up, you know, oh, nine, oh, eight, it's my daughter's, you know, a young girl.

01:06:24.466 --> 01:06:28.510
[SPEAKER_00]: She's learning about makeup and learning about hair and, you know, that type of stuff.

01:06:28.550 --> 01:06:30.272
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I don't know.

01:06:30.572 --> 01:06:31.733
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you asked me a question.

01:06:31.753 --> 01:06:32.174
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:06:32.274 --> 01:06:33.956
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you look it up on YouTube?

01:06:36.087 --> 01:06:55.695
[SPEAKER_00]: If you had a tablet back in the day or a little iPad or whatever, as a young, you know, six, seven, eight-year-old young woman, little girl, baby girl, and she'd be watching YouTube and learning stuff, and then she'd be putting stuff together, and I'm like, damn, how'd you get so good at that?

01:06:56.355 --> 01:06:57.635
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I watched it on YouTube.

01:06:58.176 --> 01:06:59.736
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, you know,

01:07:05.484 --> 01:07:14.348
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't really use it because I'm not really, why don't use it for my hobby, I and not the best mechanic.

01:07:14.468 --> 01:07:18.710
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just put it out there and be 100% honest about it.

01:07:19.110 --> 01:07:20.170
[SPEAKER_00]: I got a bad back.

01:07:21.011 --> 01:07:26.673
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really like being down on the ground because I have a hard time getting up because my backs are so bad.

01:07:27.153 --> 01:07:28.834
[SPEAKER_00]: I've had two back surgeries, whatever.

01:07:28.874 --> 01:07:31.095
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not making excuses, but here's what I will say.

01:07:31.913 --> 01:07:42.441
[SPEAKER_00]: There are people that are a lot better than me at this shit and, you know, if I'm I know enough to get myself in trouble and be dangerous, but I don't want to hurt myself man.

01:07:42.481 --> 01:07:48.165
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to enjoy my cars and I want to drive them and like, I don't know.

01:07:48.185 --> 01:07:50.227
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't want to, yeah.

01:07:50.507 --> 01:07:53.930
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm the guy that's got to pay for work unfortunately.

01:08:02.198 --> 01:08:13.046
[SPEAKER_01]: Without the thing with craftsmen, you know, those of us that do do this work, you've got to stay humble because you don't know it all and the minute you start thinking you know it all's when you start making mistakes.

01:08:13.827 --> 01:08:15.248
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk about the future.

01:08:15.288 --> 01:08:19.471
[SPEAKER_00]: What excites you about the future of the Volkswagen community.

01:08:19.911 --> 01:08:22.393
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really know what excites me about it.

01:08:23.774 --> 01:08:25.715
[SPEAKER_01]: Outside of scheduled events.

01:08:32.501 --> 01:08:33.102
[SPEAKER_01]: Where are you out?

01:08:34.003 --> 01:08:34.463
[SPEAKER_00]: TAPE?

01:08:34.563 --> 01:08:34.904
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:08:35.024 --> 01:08:38.067
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the B-debs over the Skyway.

01:08:38.247 --> 01:08:43.073
[SPEAKER_00]: We got a really awesome event called B-debs on the pier, downtown at the St. Pete Pier.

01:08:43.633 --> 01:08:45.555
[SPEAKER_00]: That ride, or not a ride.

01:08:45.696 --> 01:08:53.304
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a parade in the morning, and then we park on Spa Beach, and we can't go anywhere from like nine in the morning to three in the afternoon because of the fire marshal.

01:08:53.704 --> 01:08:55.486
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not allowed to have your engine run and nothing.

01:08:55.506 --> 01:08:58.208
[SPEAKER_00]: You just got to post up, but it's you're on a peninsula.

01:08:58.508 --> 01:09:00.710
[SPEAKER_00]: You're surrounded by water on three sides.

01:09:00.770 --> 01:09:01.431
[SPEAKER_00]: It's epic.

01:09:01.451 --> 01:09:04.854
[SPEAKER_00]: There's 250 cars and it's really starting to get some traction.

01:09:05.074 --> 01:09:05.895
[SPEAKER_00]: We'd love to have you.

01:09:06.195 --> 01:09:07.076
[SPEAKER_00]: Is there trailer parking?

01:09:07.896 --> 01:09:09.157
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, there is.

01:09:09.438 --> 01:09:09.718
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:09:10.478 --> 01:09:14.342
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, because I've got to think with this car, you know, 95.

01:09:15.483 --> 01:09:20.067
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll drive it all day long because I got people all up and down and thinking that at any given spot.

01:09:20.953 --> 01:09:23.034
[SPEAKER_01]: that I can say, hey, I broke down, I need help.

01:09:23.434 --> 01:09:28.837
[SPEAKER_01]: If I can't fix it on the road, Santa, I'll barely even drive my damn Denali over there.

01:09:30.417 --> 01:09:32.398
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I don't blame you.

01:09:33.299 --> 01:09:40.382
[SPEAKER_00]: Believe me, when I say that, I don't, but there's a lot of folks here, good folks here that would also, I know there is, it's the car.

01:09:41.102 --> 01:09:42.823
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, that's the early 90s motor.

01:09:43.284 --> 01:09:44.724
[SPEAKER_01]: Trailer didn't, I don't know.

01:09:44.804 --> 01:09:48.926
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, you know, no, we have a road trip at that far until I rebuild the motor.

01:09:52.265 --> 01:10:16.570
[SPEAKER_00]: Barbie Cecil she almost came down Volkswagen Barbie she was she had registered last year for for the peer show she was going to come and also set up as a vendor she had like a this huge badass bus when I say bus I'm talking like a fucking bands tour bus like a big badass bus then attach to that bus was a double axle trailer like a tall trailer with like

01:10:19.671 --> 01:10:28.043
[SPEAKER_00]: this setup bro was like, I want to say it was like 60 or 80 feet in length and she was asking me like, where can I park this thing?

01:10:28.083 --> 01:10:33.230
[SPEAKER_00]: So I got with my my connections at the city and I'm like, yo, here's a picture of this setup.

01:10:33.350 --> 01:10:35.272
[SPEAKER_00]: The guy's like, dude, badass.

01:10:35.353 --> 01:10:36.494
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I got a spot for her.

01:10:37.355 --> 01:10:43.101
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so yeah, so, but, but some things came up and she didn't make it, but she's probably coming this year.

01:10:43.602 --> 01:10:48.327
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know a couple of the other guys from Tennessee and Alabama are going to be coming.

01:10:48.587 --> 01:10:49.528
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're going to be coming.

01:10:49.548 --> 01:10:50.249
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's check it out.

01:10:50.289 --> 01:10:50.769
[SPEAKER_00]: What is that one?

01:10:51.290 --> 01:10:52.451
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that was January 23rd.

01:10:53.904 --> 01:10:54.424
[SPEAKER_01]: January 23rd.

01:10:54.484 --> 01:10:54.644
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:10:54.704 --> 01:11:13.415
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

01:11:20.695 --> 01:11:26.461
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a pretty cool one and then we do the same ride in December, but we do this one at night.

01:11:27.404 --> 01:11:54.109
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a night time, you know, the Skyway Bridge is famous and pretty much world-known for because it lights up at night, you know, and they changed the lights for the different seasons and, you know, they were red white and blue for July 4th, and they're orange and shit for Halloween, and they're red and green for Christmas, but in December we do the Skyway PM edition, and the catch on that one is everybody's got to set their their cars up with

01:11:57.149 --> 01:12:19.697
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... for the baddest you know uh... like display on your car so that's a fun one because we ran out the north skyway fishing pier and we're all like you know the fucking huntington beach vibe uh... were all on the pier on the water and it's sick so yeah that'd be a really cool for you to come to as well i look forward to that for the future of the hobby

01:12:20.327 --> 01:12:20.747
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:12:20.927 --> 01:12:21.467
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, man.

01:12:21.507 --> 01:12:23.408
[SPEAKER_00]: There's something that excite you about the future.

01:12:23.448 --> 01:12:23.668
[SPEAKER_00]: See?

01:12:23.688 --> 01:12:24.168
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:12:25.188 --> 01:12:25.568
[SPEAKER_01]: Shows.

01:12:25.868 --> 01:12:26.729
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say shows.

01:12:27.489 --> 01:12:32.750
[SPEAKER_01]: I love going to shows and, you know, because it's such a prank for my normal life.

01:12:33.770 --> 01:12:40.352
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and that's really all I do outside of work is my Volkswagen shows or play baseball every other Sunday.

01:12:40.919 --> 01:13:03.990
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I've got five kids, so I do a lot of that, I do a lot of that stuff, but my kids are actually getting older and I don't really have, you know, as much time with them as I did when they were younger, because, well, you know, dad's dad now and he's not this cool guy they all look up to you now he's just, oh come on dad, oh, come on dad, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god,

01:13:04.290 --> 01:13:07.953
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my son's still eight, so he still doesn't have a cool thing since being a buddy.

01:13:08.214 --> 01:13:12.397
[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck about ass, you know, hang on to that man because it's coming.

01:13:12.838 --> 01:13:19.303
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but, uh, you know, that's up me too, you know, I threw salty to me and Alan.

01:13:19.323 --> 01:13:21.625
[SPEAKER_00]: We put together about five shows a year.

01:13:22.466 --> 01:13:32.111
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll be honest, man, I look forward to them, you know, we don't make a ton of money on these shows, we don't, you know, shit, some of them even cost us money and it's okay.

01:13:32.351 --> 01:13:36.434
[SPEAKER_00]: We do it because we're passionate about it and we it's a good vibe.

01:13:36.834 --> 01:13:38.075
[SPEAKER_00]: We get a bunch of people together.

01:13:39.055 --> 01:13:45.558
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's good food, especially at the peer show, there's food vendors that come and the food is top notch food trucks.

01:13:45.658 --> 01:13:50.500
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, sick, but yeah, man, good, good times, but I'm not relate to that.

01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:51.320
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in the same boat.

01:13:51.340 --> 01:13:56.582
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really have a lot of hobbies outside of Volkswagen, either and, and I look forward to shows as well.

01:13:57.322 --> 01:13:58.143
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about advice.

01:13:58.363 --> 01:14:06.246
[SPEAKER_00]: What advice would you give to somebody that is coming into the scene now or maybe buy in their first Volkswagen?

01:14:06.606 --> 01:14:09.167
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, know what you're getting yourself into.

01:14:10.708 --> 01:14:12.009
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a pretty good advice.

01:14:13.770 --> 01:14:14.310
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean?

01:14:14.330 --> 01:14:15.231
[SPEAKER_01]: Collaborate for me.

01:14:15.751 --> 01:14:17.972
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen all too many people buy Volkswagen's.

01:14:18.592 --> 01:14:20.173
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you any classic automobile?

01:14:20.714 --> 01:14:22.935
[SPEAKER_01]: And they don't do diligence.

01:14:23.535 --> 01:14:36.260
[SPEAKER_01]: of looking underneath the cart, looking in the seams of the cart, knocking on the panels, looking where they come together, a fender meets the body, where the pinch welds are, popping the hood and looking in the door jams.

01:14:36.300 --> 01:14:39.281
[SPEAKER_01]: They, too many people don't do that.

01:14:39.661 --> 01:14:48.745
[SPEAKER_01]: They drag the cart home, oh hey man, I just spent 10 grand on this car, got it home, and it's a rusty bucket.

01:14:49.577 --> 01:15:08.815
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, did y'all look at it first or y'all struck by the shiny paint job, but in the hobby for way too long to not look at all that even with new regards, so the best piece of advice I can give it to that is be thorough do your two diligence take a magnet with you, magnets don't stick the Bondo and if there's Bondo, there's been a wreck.

01:15:11.710 --> 01:15:19.532
[SPEAKER_01]: And I say to yourself, the money kind of goes hand in hand with, oh, I can fix it and you just because you can doesn't mean you should.

01:15:20.493 --> 01:15:22.753
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, just because you think you can, doesn't mean you can.

01:15:23.473 --> 01:15:23.713
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:15:23.873 --> 01:15:25.754
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, somebody can.

01:15:26.774 --> 01:15:27.695
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm guilty of that.

01:15:27.955 --> 01:15:32.796
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I can and thought I could a whole bunch of times already and been like, God dog.

01:15:33.656 --> 01:15:35.977
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, got myself in over my head on this one.

01:15:37.168 --> 01:15:41.830
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, been there done that and, you know, and that's the learning mistake.

01:15:41.850 --> 01:15:44.951
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a learning curve and, you know, that's just one of those things.

01:15:45.331 --> 01:15:52.353
[SPEAKER_01]: Unless you have the fortitude to power through it and learn it, you know, it's something you got to look out for, especially when you start an out on any hobby.

01:15:53.413 --> 01:16:04.917
[SPEAKER_01]: But in general, when it comes to cars or even when when you talk to the guy that you're going to pay to fix your car, never ever pay the guy that says I'm 100% sure this is the problem.

01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:14.386
[SPEAKER_01]: minutes of a minute mechanic is a hundred percent sure is when he starts making mistakes on no matter what front you're talking about.

01:16:15.007 --> 01:16:15.487
[SPEAKER_01]: It's good.

01:16:15.507 --> 01:16:17.068
[SPEAKER_01]: I never tell people I'm a hundred percent sure.

01:16:17.209 --> 01:16:22.272
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you I'm 98 percent sure but there's always a chance I'm wrong that don't know at all.

01:16:23.253 --> 01:16:24.074
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good advice, man.

01:16:24.414 --> 01:16:30.779
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually it's it's it's held true to me for and it's got me out of positions

01:16:37.330 --> 01:16:52.082
[SPEAKER_01]: stay humble really is what it is because you're dealing with a car that's built in 1964 in my case some people in 1955 stay humble because it's going to throw you some curveballs and you're going to freak out.

01:16:55.319 --> 01:16:57.000
[SPEAKER_00]: I got some rapid fire questions.

01:16:57.280 --> 01:17:00.101
[SPEAKER_00]: These are a question that would demand a fast response.

01:17:01.201 --> 01:17:03.282
[SPEAKER_00]: If a story comes of it, I'm not going to stop you.

01:17:03.642 --> 01:17:04.783
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually encourage it.

01:17:04.883 --> 01:17:09.825
[SPEAKER_00]: However, looking for first thing that comes to mind, right, quick, quick fire.

01:17:09.845 --> 01:17:10.285
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you ready?

01:17:10.905 --> 01:17:12.066
[SPEAKER_00]: You look confused, you all right?

01:17:13.602 --> 01:17:16.703
[SPEAKER_01]: I was wondering if I could say boobies or not, cause that always happened to mine.

01:17:17.063 --> 01:17:19.664
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can.

01:17:20.144 --> 01:17:23.685
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, you can, this is your podcast, dude.

01:17:23.865 --> 01:17:26.146
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, you should first thing that comes to my mind.

01:17:26.646 --> 01:17:30.808
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, uh, hey, birds of a feather flock together.

01:17:30.828 --> 01:17:34.269
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in the same boat.

01:17:34.609 --> 01:17:35.829
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, you ready, rapid fire?

01:17:36.069 --> 01:17:36.890
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's go.

01:17:36.910 --> 01:17:38.270
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, oval or split.

01:17:38.870 --> 01:17:39.231
[SPEAKER_00]: Neither.

01:17:39.911 --> 01:17:40.251
[SPEAKER_00]: Neither.

01:17:41.091 --> 01:17:41.531
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take it.

01:17:45.550 --> 01:17:45.990
[SPEAKER_00]: type one.

01:17:48.211 --> 01:17:49.072
[SPEAKER_01]: I love my type three.

01:17:49.832 --> 01:17:52.234
[SPEAKER_01]: It's special to me, but I'm a bug at heart.

01:17:52.254 --> 01:17:53.234
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:17:55.075 --> 01:17:59.257
[SPEAKER_00]: Stupid one, but I'm going to let it, I'm going to let it fly because you said this earlier.

01:17:59.778 --> 01:18:01.579
[SPEAKER_00]: Carberators or fuel injection.

01:18:03.300 --> 01:18:05.301
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, uh, application dependent.

01:18:06.321 --> 01:18:07.102
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I try to do.

01:18:07.962 --> 01:18:08.782
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:18:09.843 --> 01:18:11.604
[SPEAKER_00]: Cal look or German look.

01:18:15.222 --> 01:18:15.902
[SPEAKER_00]: I like Cal look.

01:18:17.343 --> 01:18:21.265
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I like Cal look too, but it's like personal preference.

01:18:22.846 --> 01:18:25.147
[SPEAKER_01]: Some cars might, you know, some cars are good German.

01:18:25.327 --> 01:18:27.328
[SPEAKER_01]: Some cars look good Cal look.

01:18:27.909 --> 01:18:28.269
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, man.

01:18:28.289 --> 01:18:29.890
[SPEAKER_00]: Tell us your question.

01:18:30.050 --> 01:18:31.831
[SPEAKER_00]: You can do whatever you want to with a brother.

01:18:33.952 --> 01:18:34.872
[SPEAKER_00]: Stock or custom.

01:18:36.013 --> 01:18:36.433
[SPEAKER_01]: Custom.

01:18:37.114 --> 01:18:37.974
[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely custom.

01:18:37.994 --> 01:18:40.836
[SPEAKER_01]: There's way too much cool shit out today to be stock.

01:18:42.276 --> 01:18:42.697
[SPEAKER_00]: I dig it.

01:18:43.784 --> 01:18:46.649
[SPEAKER_00]: best VW event that you've attended.

01:18:46.669 --> 01:18:48.192
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, for sure.

01:18:48.212 --> 01:18:49.454
[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, nice.

01:18:50.636 --> 01:18:51.116
[SPEAKER_01]: For sure.

01:18:51.157 --> 01:18:52.960
[SPEAKER_01]: Those guys do a bang-up job.

01:18:53.500 --> 01:18:53.861
[SPEAKER_00]: They do.

01:18:54.162 --> 01:18:54.502
[SPEAKER_00]: They do.

01:18:56.583 --> 01:18:59.825
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's he's come on to and fantastic.

01:18:59.885 --> 01:19:00.746
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and I agree.

01:19:01.646 --> 01:19:08.971
[SPEAKER_00]: Most memorable person that you've met through VW's and Edward's for sure.

01:19:10.472 --> 01:19:16.295
[SPEAKER_01]: Not only have I noted the longest of anybody I've known in this culture, but he's definitely the most memorable.

01:19:16.536 --> 01:19:17.376
[SPEAKER_01]: He's taught me the most.

01:19:18.037 --> 01:19:18.277
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:19:18.737 --> 01:19:19.177
[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.

01:19:20.418 --> 01:19:23.360
[SPEAKER_00]: One VW you'll never sell that one.

01:19:23.982 --> 01:19:25.343
[SPEAKER_00]: The notch.

01:19:25.383 --> 01:19:26.204
[SPEAKER_00]: The one behind me.

01:19:26.784 --> 01:19:27.145
[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.

01:19:27.965 --> 01:19:29.346
[SPEAKER_00]: Baby got sauce.

01:19:30.227 --> 01:19:30.467
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:19:30.768 --> 01:19:32.369
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a look up the song.

01:19:33.070 --> 01:19:35.732
[SPEAKER_00]: One VW that you wish that you had back.

01:19:38.534 --> 01:19:41.436
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, uh, 71 Bay window.

01:19:41.456 --> 01:19:42.818
[SPEAKER_01]: Two.

01:19:42.838 --> 01:19:47.782
[SPEAKER_01]: There's bench bus walk through a walk here.

01:19:48.142 --> 01:19:50.244
[SPEAKER_00]: 79 first year of disc breaks.

01:19:51.829 --> 01:20:04.900
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I ended up trading that car to Nate West for a custom-made beam for my car that was monogrammed and everything, and he turned it into the bell pepper.

01:20:06.121 --> 01:20:11.046
[SPEAKER_01]: I got a car from my first wife's sister, but it was a cool bus.

01:20:11.206 --> 01:20:12.287
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a unique bus.

01:20:13.033 --> 01:20:21.817
[SPEAKER_01]: One of my favorite years, I love the bench wall walk through and two thirds bench wall there was a walk through bus from the front, so the driver's seat was a swivel seat.

01:20:22.297 --> 01:20:30.001
[SPEAKER_00]: Woo cool man, my favorite bus is the bay, I just love, I love the bay window.

01:20:30.181 --> 01:20:36.464
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm more of a transporter type, not the camper type, so I like the bench seats, you know,

01:20:40.542 --> 01:20:46.909
[SPEAKER_00]: I was this close last year to to get one and I was going to trade my gear away for it.

01:20:48.470 --> 01:20:49.812
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a fair trade in my opinion.

01:20:49.832 --> 01:20:51.914
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a beautiful bus.

01:20:51.954 --> 01:20:55.378
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a little lower just just drop spindles.

01:20:55.458 --> 01:20:56.479
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't too crazy.

01:20:57.600 --> 01:21:00.563
[SPEAKER_00]: But perfect stance, great bus, 71.

01:21:02.352 --> 01:21:05.233
[SPEAKER_00]: had a 1600, a newer 1600 in it.

01:21:05.353 --> 01:21:07.493
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just a great bus.

01:21:08.374 --> 01:21:10.594
[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't get it, it was in Connecticut.

01:21:10.634 --> 01:21:11.595
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just couldn't make it.

01:21:11.735 --> 01:21:12.995
[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't make the deal happen.

01:21:13.295 --> 01:21:14.735
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it's all good.

01:21:14.895 --> 01:21:16.636
[SPEAKER_00]: These things come and go in our lives.

01:21:16.736 --> 01:21:20.777
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, my guilla is not really my guilla.

01:21:20.917 --> 01:21:23.978
[SPEAKER_00]: It's my wife's guilla, because my wife wanted it more than any other car.

01:21:24.558 --> 01:21:24.938
[SPEAKER_00]: Anywhere.

01:21:25.938 --> 01:21:28.019
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all right, right.

01:21:28.379 --> 01:21:30.960
[SPEAKER_00]: But she doesn't, she's not into the hobby like I am.

01:21:31.680 --> 01:21:33.922
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I why it's not into my car either.

01:21:34.162 --> 01:21:35.843
[SPEAKER_01]: And she loves it the fact that I built it.

01:21:36.203 --> 01:21:38.725
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, people staring at her while we're driving.

01:21:39.446 --> 01:21:40.226
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm coming her.

01:21:41.487 --> 01:21:43.209
[SPEAKER_00]: So the last like year.

01:21:44.930 --> 01:21:46.631
[SPEAKER_00]: So a Bondo story.

01:21:46.771 --> 01:21:48.152
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll let it happen here real quick.

01:21:49.253 --> 01:21:52.596
[SPEAKER_00]: My son ran into the gear with the lot with the zero turn lawnmower.

01:21:53.016 --> 01:21:56.619
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, oh yeah, I was like, oh no.

01:21:58.130 --> 01:22:11.453
[SPEAKER_00]: Put a good sized dent in the side of it, but what came of the dent was this really weird spot where like the side had cracked and this piece of metal had like flaked out, and I'm like Metal don't do that.

01:22:12.053 --> 01:22:12.633
[SPEAKER_00]: The hell right.

01:22:13.873 --> 01:22:15.413
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what the hell is that magnet?

01:22:16.154 --> 01:22:20.734
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-oh, it's Bondo So it was better than Bondo.

01:22:20.874 --> 01:22:23.235
[SPEAKER_00]: It was fiberglass over Bondo

01:22:24.170 --> 01:22:49.112
[SPEAKER_00]: So when I when I peeled it back, there was a rust hole about that big oh wow yeah that they had covered down at the bottom so when we bought this car pans clean panels clean rockers everything was really clean this one spot and then up near the headlights there were some rust bubbles coming on the top of the the dome for the you know the geos

01:22:50.033 --> 01:22:57.076
[SPEAKER_00]: So I took it to a guy and while it was there actually had the trim because the trim got that's where my son hit it right on the side.

01:22:57.096 --> 01:23:05.619
[SPEAKER_00]: The trim got dented and he had asked me about replacing the trim and I was like, you know what, I kind of like the look of the Carmen Gia without the trim.

01:23:06.260 --> 01:23:10.861
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I can we weld the holes closed.

01:23:10.881 --> 01:23:12.082
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, yeah, I can do that.

01:23:12.122 --> 01:23:14.003
[SPEAKER_00]: So I got all the metal fixed.

01:23:14.763 --> 01:23:15.923
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my bomb dough story.

01:23:16.063 --> 01:23:17.144
[SPEAKER_00]: But here's the rest of the story.

01:23:18.793 --> 01:23:27.899
[SPEAKER_00]: Across the bottom of the car is primordial now, faded into this beautiful, you know, forced green paint.

01:23:28.980 --> 01:23:31.801
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what are you doing?

01:23:32.262 --> 01:23:34.343
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the ugliest car I've ever seen.

01:23:34.403 --> 01:23:38.245
[SPEAKER_00]: Why would you have taken the delivery of the car like this?

01:23:38.306 --> 01:23:40.407
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, it's a work in progress, honey.

01:23:40.887 --> 01:23:42.088
[SPEAKER_00]: Shit doesn't happen overnight.

01:23:42.468 --> 01:23:44.149
[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, no, fucking ugly.

01:23:44.229 --> 01:23:45.430
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't even want to be seen in it.

01:23:45.990 --> 01:23:46.291
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like,

01:23:47.163 --> 01:23:59.102
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so it's been a while like I've had I've been driving it around like that for probably eight months nine months with all the metal works been done it's beautiful sound it's solid as shit now

01:24:00.867 --> 01:24:10.990
[SPEAKER_00]: But it looked ugly because it was primord and basically ready for paint, you know, ready to be to be painted, I just wasn't a priority for me.

01:24:11.110 --> 01:24:22.592
[SPEAKER_00]: I had a thing for a little while and now I've got my 62 and you know, I'm trying to remain in the hobby and take care of, you know, some of my projects, I kind of put her car on the back burner.

01:24:23.493 --> 01:24:28.314
[SPEAKER_00]: When the trade didn't happen, this guy was going to by the way, trade me the way it looked.

01:24:29.253 --> 01:24:35.879
[SPEAKER_00]: When the trade didn't happen, I was like, you know what, I'm gonna put my focus back on this gear and I'm gonna finish it.

01:24:36.380 --> 01:24:37.681
[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna do it, we're gonna do it all.

01:24:37.701 --> 01:24:42.045
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna paint it, I'm gonna lower it, put my wheels on it, put some interior on it.

01:24:42.065 --> 01:24:45.408
[SPEAKER_00]: If you wanna be seen in a nice car fine, I'm gonna make it nice.

01:24:45.608 --> 01:24:49.271
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's been my focus for the last probably four or five months.

01:24:49.812 --> 01:24:50.112
[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.

01:24:50.612 --> 01:24:52.995
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it has been all gear.

01:24:53.215 --> 01:24:53.655
[SPEAKER_00]: So now my 62

01:24:56.238 --> 01:25:00.586
[SPEAKER_00]: I've got a 1776 in the garage waiting to go in it, but now it sits

01:25:03.182 --> 01:25:07.085
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, funny.

01:25:07.605 --> 01:25:14.510
[SPEAKER_00]: Now it sits and it's on the back burner as the gear is is more developed and I'm wake up with that man.

01:25:14.650 --> 01:25:15.391
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm wake up with that.

01:25:15.911 --> 01:25:17.292
[SPEAKER_00]: All right back to you back to you.

01:25:18.313 --> 01:25:23.457
[SPEAKER_00]: Any upcoming events anybody that's listening can come and see you come see this car at.

01:25:23.997 --> 01:25:25.518
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the only one that's

01:25:33.004 --> 01:25:36.567
[SPEAKER_01]: solidified that I'm going to.

01:25:36.928 --> 01:25:38.709
[SPEAKER_01]: Besides our monthly show at.

01:25:39.470 --> 01:25:43.835
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, our monthly hit together for Felicia B does a big tune of last Saturday every month.

01:25:44.355 --> 01:25:50.381
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we were there from 11 to two and we do a raffle drawing and as long as you drove a vote swag and you get a free ticket.

01:25:51.122 --> 01:25:52.103
[SPEAKER_01]: So we do that every month.

01:25:52.675 --> 01:25:57.117
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I will probably be at, uh, Canal Street, New Smyrna Beach this weekend.

01:25:57.677 --> 01:25:59.958
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a 27 year tradition in town.

01:26:00.618 --> 01:26:01.918
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all kinds of makes and models.

01:26:02.779 --> 01:26:06.160
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, a few of us folks who are having a nice go out there on the regular.

01:26:07.140 --> 01:26:08.781
[SPEAKER_01]: But outside of that, it's not a bad.

01:26:10.001 --> 01:26:12.742
[SPEAKER_00]: Describe the Volkswagen community for me in just one word.

01:26:13.403 --> 01:26:14.083
[SPEAKER_00]: Double-ishess.

01:26:14.883 --> 01:26:15.643
[SPEAKER_00]: Ha ha.

01:26:16.404 --> 01:26:17.544
[SPEAKER_00]: No one's ever had that one.

01:26:17.744 --> 01:26:18.484
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good answer.

01:26:19.305 --> 01:26:19.805
[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.

01:26:21.500 --> 01:26:23.660
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, final question, are you ready for it?

01:26:24.321 --> 01:26:24.581
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

01:26:25.361 --> 01:26:26.981
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're not back, could talk.

01:26:28.581 --> 01:26:30.462
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the one story that it would tell?

01:26:35.142 --> 01:26:36.243
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never thought about that.

01:26:39.623 --> 01:26:41.964
[SPEAKER_01]: It would probably wait to put AC in my garage.

01:26:42.944 --> 01:26:44.264
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no.

01:26:45.424 --> 01:26:46.084
[SPEAKER_01]: Why do you know?

01:26:46.104 --> 01:26:49.365
[SPEAKER_01]: I, that's a, that's a good question.

01:26:50.959 --> 01:26:57.444
[SPEAKER_01]: because that car has seen some things in its lifetime and more than a lot of humans.

01:26:58.244 --> 01:26:58.584
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:26:58.945 --> 01:27:00.826
[SPEAKER_00]: Just the journey itself, where it's been.

01:27:00.986 --> 01:27:02.267
[SPEAKER_00]: It's footprint that it's covered.

01:27:02.707 --> 01:27:05.770
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of people have even covered in their lives.

01:27:06.470 --> 01:27:08.251
[SPEAKER_01]: Just knowing, knowing Uncle.

01:27:08.692 --> 01:27:15.216
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, because these, my Uncle, and that car, knowing him, that car has seen a lot of beaches in Hawaii.

01:27:15.236 --> 01:27:17.158
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of surfboards, a lot of boogie boards.

01:27:17.959 --> 01:27:20.962
[SPEAKER_01]: a lot of a lot of Volkswagen shows over there.

01:27:21.743 --> 01:27:23.244
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, insane here.

01:27:26.327 --> 01:27:30.431
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we should write a book about that car and the stories it would tell.

01:27:30.852 --> 01:27:31.833
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, that would be amazing.

01:27:34.435 --> 01:27:35.837
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, that's a tough question, man.

01:27:36.697 --> 01:27:40.241
[SPEAKER_01]: What I'm sure it would be something about that.

01:27:41.597 --> 01:27:42.178
[SPEAKER_00]: on a love.

01:27:58.557 --> 01:28:02.118
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have a story to tell or know somebody else who's living the dove life?

01:28:02.618 --> 01:28:02.958
[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.

01:28:03.399 --> 01:28:04.139
[SPEAKER_00]: Reach out to us.

01:28:04.319 --> 01:28:07.020
[SPEAKER_00]: You can find us on all socials and dove life diaries.

01:28:07.520 --> 01:28:08.820
[SPEAKER_00]: Or shoot me an email.

01:28:09.080 --> 01:28:09.981
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not hard to find.

01:28:10.381 --> 01:28:12.902
[SPEAKER_00]: Double life diaries at gmail.com.

01:28:13.382 --> 01:28:19.123
[SPEAKER_00]: Until next time, keep the engine tummen and the wheels turning and always follow the road that inspires you.

01:28:19.504 --> 01:28:20.584
[SPEAKER_00]: This is Joe Person.

01:28:20.744 --> 01:28:21.604
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm signing off.

01:28:21.844 --> 01:28:23.665
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll catch you on the next ride.