Volkswagen Barbie & A Garage Full Of Rolling Art - Barbie Cecil Ep36

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Welcome back to Dub Life Diaries. Today's guest is somebody who took a childhood

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dream, a very wild imagination, and turned it into a garage full of rolling

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art. She's built. She's restored.

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She's customized Volkswagens that all have names. They all got personality.

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They all got stories of their own. From Phoebe, the split window bus, to Fiona, I don't know.

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To Farrah, and now to Felix. I feel like I'm stuck on the Fs,

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which is the Stealth V8 Beetle kit car that is still in a crate.

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She embodies what it means to live the Volkswagen lifestyle.

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She's part dreamer, part builder, and a really awesome part storyteller.

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And today we're going to dive into her world.

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This is the Volkswagen Barbie herself. Barbie Cecil, welcome to Dub Life Diaries.

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Hey, Zubber, Volkswagen Birdie here, and it's a pleasure to be on Double Life Diaries today.

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Miss Volkswagen Barbie, back to you. Yes. Great to be here.

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So, you know, thank you for taking the time. I see you're all about the scene.

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You're in it. You got a shop. You got all kinds of stuff cracking.

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I love it. Thank you for taking the time to do this podcast.

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Let's talk about you. Let's talk about how you arrived at what you're doing

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and your energy. It's just so awesome.

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So growing up in West Texas, what first pulled you toward Volkswagens or the

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scene when really you weren't around them as a young person, correct?

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Absolutely not. I never knew anybody that had a Volkswagen.

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I'd never physically been inside of a Volkswagen or gone for a ride in a Volkswagen.

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I might have seen a few on the roads. I wish I had a really epic,

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cool story to share with you on how my love began.

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And I have dug deep in my soul. And the only thing I can come up with,

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ironically, was I'm one of six kids. So I came from a big family.

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When we saw beetles or buses on the road on family road trips,

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that was the only time I was allowed to punch them and not get in trouble.

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And I think that's honestly what spurred my love of Volkswagens.

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Do you think the slug bug game kind of tied into the, you know,

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the mischievous energy, you know, that kind of helps shape the Volkswagen journey?

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Oh, absolutely. You know, growing up watching shows, especially California-based

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shows where people were living their best life in Volkswagens,

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where my brain landed and stuff.

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That's so awesome. Now, I know the bus has stood out to you over time.

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And what do you think the bus stood out so much for from childhood on to today?

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What was the attraction to the bus? Yeah.

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Well, one, I have to say I'm a splitty fanatic.

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Don't get me wrong. I love all my Volkswagens, but something iconic about that

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split front end of that bus, it just captivates my heart.

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I mean, there's no other way to put it. I love them all, but there's just something iconic about it.

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And as a kid growing up with so many siblings, a lot of my daydreams were about

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getting away, having my own space. And to me, a bus embodied all of that. It would get me away.

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It would give me a place to sleep, a place to hang out.

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And so in my brain, it was the perfect solution to my crazy family life.

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Right on. You started to get into the Volkswagen lifestyle.

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Did your friends and your family at the time, did they think that later in life

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now you're going to start chasing this dream?

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Did you catch any pushback? or any, you know?

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I wouldn't say any pushback. The Volkswagens kind of came into my life late

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enough that honestly, by the time you're 40, you're pretty much everybody knows who you are.

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And honestly, it did not surprise any of my friends or family members.

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I think I surprised a few that didn't expect me to actually take off my fingernails

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and get in the nitty gritty of it. I kind of surprised myself on that.

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When I first started with Phoebe, I had no mechanical experience whatsoever.

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And my husband did. However, he never worked on air-cooled engines.

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So it was a whole new beast.

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So a lot of Phoebe I did have to hire out.

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And I had a couple of guys come over and help me and,

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poke your engine in, change your suspension out and all of that.

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And I guess there's a little bit of shame in not fixing your own stuff that

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I started to feel. And I got tired of asking people and people move on.

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You find a great mechanic and then the next thing you know, they've moved on.

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Yeah. And I got to the point that I wanted to become reliable on myself only.

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I want to get my business, I want to know them inside and out and be able to

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take them to Canada on a solo trip if I choose to.

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That was my ultimate goal. And I'm glad that I didn't mess with Phoebe,

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that I hired a lot of that out because it did let me start gaining knowledge.

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And it eventually pushed me to the point that

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I enjoy wrenching on

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my girls now and solving their problems yeah i love that and i and your videos

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are so much fun your energy is so awesome and you guys you seem like you're

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busy you're like you know you're elbow deep in the grease it's it's awesome

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do you think that people who fall in love with vws are wired differently,

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Absolutely. I think it just comes with a more patient mind and more open aspect on everything in life.

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I've been in a lot of car scenes with my husband being into muscle cars.

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I've done, in my 20s, I've toured with the monster truck rallies.

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I've done circle track and drag strip and all the car clubs I've known.

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It's always been about who has the

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bigger motor who has the faster car

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and that's what i love about

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volkswagons yes i doll mine up and they're

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pretty but you know what i love the rat rods just as much and what i find in

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the volkswagen community it's never about comparison it is about the love of

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you and your vehicle regardless of its state and that that's that's just being

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good humans. Yeah, for sure.

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Yeah, I love that. I agree with that. I think it's more about the people than

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it is the cars. You know, the cars are kind of the icing. Yes.

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So getting a bus later in life, I know you said that you had some heartbreak, right?

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Initially, when you finally were going to pull the trigger and

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And that you drove all the way to Miami for a disaster. Can you walk me through that story?

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Oh, yes. So backtrack just a little bit before the Miami, I'd actually spotted

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three different ones over in the UK.

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Paid infectors, came back with horrible reports.

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I knew mechanically I wasn't scared having my husband be an ASE master's technician.

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I knew that that wasn't an issue. what scared me was the body,

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the rust, the hinges, things like that.

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Well, after three disappointments there, I finally found the one in Miami.

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And I'd seen videos of it rolling down the road. I'd gotten probably a hundred photos.

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So I was 100% certain this was the bus for me.

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Load up the trailer. My husband was feeling ill. So I hauled to Miami with a trailer.

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First time I'd hauled the trailer in about 20 years.

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And they opened the door of the storage unit, and it was just instant heartache.

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The moment I saw it, I could tell, walking up from the back end,

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her muffler was crunched flat.

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And they tried, obviously, they didn't know how passionate I was about Volkswagen,

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but they tried to tell me, they're all like that.

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And so I knew right there I was dealing with a liar. Yeah, ooh.

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I could go ahead and inspect the bus anyway, And it was it was a hot mess. I'm talking.

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I'm pretty sure a five year old could have put the headliner in better.

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That's bolts everywhere. Oh, no.

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Horrible. But I put on my brave face and kind of looked at him and told him,

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Luke, I'm going to go look at a couple more buses. I'll let you know.

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In reality, I was crushed. I went back to the hotel and I cried.

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I cried a little bit because I was so certain.

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And it was just more of a project at that point being my first Volkswagen that

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I was willing to like dive into.

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So I sat in the hotel room and I thought, well, while I'm out of my general

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area, Google might produce some other like content that I haven't seen.

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So pop on Google, do a little search and I'll find like 30 minutes from my hotel

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where phenomenal buses.

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I told him, I'll tell you what, let me come look. I want to look at your workmanship.

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I want to touch and look and inspect your work. So he allowed me to come over.

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And despite my best efforts of trying to buy one of the three that he had there, he was a businessman.

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He did not let me. I even offered more money.

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But he did tell me he would import one. And I laid down the rules.

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I told him I really didn't care mechanically if she was sound or not,

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Even though he said that they rebuild the engines and transmissions and all of that.

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I told him my big deal was the body work and the door closures and the little

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things like that that are pain to fix.

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So I put down a deposit, came back home and waited for about six months.

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And in the meantime, we were corresponding. I was picking out colors and picking

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out curtains and picking out the layout and what options I wanted in it.

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And so I cheated. I feel like I cheated a little bit, but the overhaul I have

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given her has redeemed me because getting her home was a whole different story.

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I mean, you can look pretty all day long, but if she doesn't drive,

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there's heartache. There's more heartache on the way.

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That's right. That's right. So what were some of those biggest surprises that

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you realized after you brought her home?

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Well, ironically, I didn't even have to get her home to realize the first error

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I was going to have to address.

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So obviously, my Miami area is very crowded.

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You're not going to get a big truck and trailer everywhere. So I had to park

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the trailer, drive the truck over, make the deal, and then get the bus over to the trailer.

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So maybe five blocks and immediately I could tell there was not enough power.

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Finding second gear, near impossible.

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Wow. At this point, I bit the bullet. I was just ready to get back home and started to work on her.

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So loaded her up on the trailer.

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And the second I go to unload her to get her home.

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Impossible to find reverse oh no

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yes so so i had i had

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one car show and it was actually our rare air car show

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three or four years ago my first one i'd went

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ahead and took her as is because i just gotten her less than 30 days i wanted

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to show her off regarding after that show she came straight home got put up

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on blocks engine suspension yanked out and she sat on blocks for six months

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while I waited on Powerhouse to build me a good engine.

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Wow. So yeah, walk me through now. What's what what she what she built like,

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I guess. How'd you go from? Yeah. What upgrades?

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So obviously the first thing I needed to do, because I'm not getting her just

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to put her in shows, I ride her.

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If I'm going to the grocery store, I've got 12 cars.

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That's the one I usually want to take, unless it's raining.

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So the first thing I did was her engine. So we pulled out her rebuilt engine

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that was leaking like a sieve. Powerhouse built me a 2110.

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Ooh. Full-carved, their Weber 44s. Okay.

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And because the engine was going to have about 150 horsepower,

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they told me 145, but when dynoed, it was about 150. Dang. Yeah.

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That'll move her. Dang. Yeah. But with that, it opens a whole new can of worms.

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You have to stop. That's kind of important. Kind of.

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You know, and with the additional power, she wanted to fishtail a little bit.

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So suspension issues were in there. So it just kind of started compiling.

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And at that point, I was also having some wiring issues.

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So it was time to pretty much gutter. And I thought while the engine was out

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and waiting for powerhouse to be shipped,

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the new one to be shipped, it was a good time to go ahead and yank all every

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wire out of her, yank her suspension out, put this brakes on her.

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So I found a company out of the Netherlands called Red 9 Design that do independent

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coilover suspension kits and,

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I have been so impressed with her drivability after that. Wow.

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That I put that in my pink bus.

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Our vice president of our local club ordered one to put in his bay window bus.

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So I'm not getting paid for promotion on them, but I'm telling you that was

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probably one of the best in terms of drivability.

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That's probably a good nugget. Good gem. Thank you. You know,

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and after all of the mechanical side got done, she's sporting four point camera

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systems, Bluetooth radio.

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She's got a TV that will elevate from behind her back, the passenger seat. Dang.

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Full on camp, everything you need, except for maybe the toilet.

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So when you think of a bus like this you

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know that's now so built and probably a

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lot invested do you think that people kind of maybe

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glamorize owning a bus without realizing how much money actually has to go into

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them to get them to look like yours oh wow absolutely every car show i take

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or two the patrons will be oh that's my dream part i want one of those and i

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tell them dude I got a hundred grand in this thing.

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You know, it is. It's an expensive hobby, but it is so worth it. Being retired.

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That's the, that's the perfect place to put my money. Yeah.

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I love it. I love it. So let's fast forward just a little bit to Farrah.

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Tell me about how Farrah came into your life.

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So Farrah came into my life. I had kind of been interested in a bay window.

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I wanted another bus. I wanted another project.

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And this time, I wanted to be the one to do a lot of that.

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And so that was my goal with her because I hired so much out with Phoebe.

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I wanted to get my hands dirty this time.

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So I contacted the guy that imported Phoebe for me because I had a body-wise,

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not mechanically-wise, But body-wise, I was impressed with what he produced

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compared to what I'd seen.

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Told him, basically, I'm looking for a bay window bus. I don't even care if

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it has an engine or a suspension.

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I need the chassis and the body. And I'll handle it from there.

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So it took about a year. And he still hadn't hollered back at me.

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And finally, one day, he called me. And he's like, well, Barbie,

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I found you a bay window bus.

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And I told him, great, great. Let me come take a peek at it.

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And he's like, well, I have to tell you, I know you said you wanted to do all the interior build out.

00:17:18.784 --> 00:17:22.444
And I know you were going to do all of the suspension and engine that you did with your other one.

00:17:22.544 --> 00:17:25.784
But this one's kind of already been built out. But I thought of you because

00:17:25.784 --> 00:17:30.004
it's a one-owner bus and it is impeccably kept.

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That caught my attention. I go down there and I had already envisioned in my

00:17:35.884 --> 00:17:40.364
brain how I wanted her layout on the interior, what all like I was going to

00:17:40.364 --> 00:17:45.784
include into her because you've got a little more space in the bay windows than you do the splitty.

00:17:46.224 --> 00:17:51.644
So I go down there. The second I laid eyes on it, it was just take my money.

00:17:52.664 --> 00:17:57.024
It was her interior build out was so far.

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It so far exceeded what I had envisioned. I knew I was going home with her.

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I necessarily want a pink bus.

00:18:04.924 --> 00:18:08.324
No, I know my name's Barbie, but pink's really not my favorite color.

00:18:08.904 --> 00:18:14.904
But it was so adorable on the inside. I had no choice. I had no choice.

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Now, part of me does think that he'd get that bus and paint it pink and do that,

00:18:21.244 --> 00:18:24.744
knowing he could sell it to me for more money. Probably so.

00:18:25.764 --> 00:18:28.184
I'm a sucker and it works. So

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kudos to him. Fast forward a little bit on how'd you build this one out?

00:18:33.988 --> 00:18:38.468
So with this one, she's also now she does not have her air conditioner yet.

00:18:38.668 --> 00:18:41.188
Phoebe actually has an air conditioner, which surprises most people.

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It was tricky, but you do.

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Did you do the new electronic style or did you do a certain style?

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Okay. Belt driven. Okay. I've heard enough horror stories about the electric

00:18:52.168 --> 00:18:54.868
that I wasn't. I live in Florida. Come on. It's hot.

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Hey, that's what I was going to ask you. Cause my wife's actually,

00:18:57.928 --> 00:19:00.528
she's wanting to put AC in the Carmen Ghia right now.

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And I I'm kind of weighing the options. Well, I will say the guy that imported,

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he had been doing, both of my buses, he had been doing the electric for a while,

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and he had so many issues, he's finally cut it and gone back to belt through

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it. Okay, that's a good tip.

00:19:19.028 --> 00:19:24.708
But Ms. Farrah, she's going to be just as glamorous. She's got a lot more storage.

00:19:25.128 --> 00:19:29.608
Her bed, like with Phoebe here, she's got the L-shaped couch in her.

00:19:29.848 --> 00:19:34.328
It does not convert to a bed. Have I camped in her? Yes. It was quite funny

00:19:34.328 --> 00:19:36.348
how I managed to make that happen, but I didn't know that.

00:19:37.328 --> 00:19:40.208
But with Farrah, she's actually got the rock and roll bed. One pull,

00:19:40.348 --> 00:19:44.028
you've got your bed all the way across. She's got a kitchen sink in her.

00:19:44.168 --> 00:19:46.728
It's tiny, but a place to wash your hands up.

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She actually has a mini refrigerator in her. Cool. A TV.

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I will be adding air conditioning to her soon, but right now we're trying to

00:19:56.048 --> 00:20:00.268
get her buttoned up and engine poked in and suspension handled. So all in due time.

00:20:00.548 --> 00:20:04.388
Yeah, yeah. So what's the difference in the personalities between these two,

00:20:04.548 --> 00:20:07.728
Phoebe and Farrah? A complete different personality.

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Isn't that cool? Phoebe is my personality. She's kind of the wild child, a little bit tomboyish.

00:20:14.568 --> 00:20:17.128
You know, she's a beachgoer, spread the joy.

00:20:17.568 --> 00:20:22.528
Whereas Farrah, Farrah captivates the little girls a lot. I've done a lot of

00:20:22.528 --> 00:20:26.248
mini photo shoots with her, and the moms and little girls love that.

00:20:26.448 --> 00:20:30.368
But to me, she seems a little more highfalutin, a little classier.

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She doesn't seem as infectious to me as Phoebe, but that's probably just my

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own personal preference.

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But I love her still the same. Let's fast forward a little bit then to another one, another F.

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Now, kind of cool because my whole family's J's.

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My mom's Judy. My dad's Jeff. My brother's Josh. My other brother's Jonah.

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I'm Joe. My sister's Jordan. So we were like all the J's.

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But with all the F's, I kind of thought, I'm like, oh, that's kind of cool.

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She's sticking with F's.

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But Fiona, the 2002 Beetle, tell me about how this one entered the mix.

00:21:07.628 --> 00:21:11.588
Okay. So she's the first water cool to actually hit the mix. Okay.

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Came out of sheer necessity, honestly.

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So she was actually the second Volkswagen I brought into the mix.

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And she got brought in because I was tired of getting rained out.

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Quite honestly. Phoebe, as much as a lover, she leaks like a sieve from those

00:21:25.971 --> 00:21:30.411
front two windows, and I've replaced every seal. That's just what she does.

00:21:31.471 --> 00:21:34.971
There were enough functions that I had missed out on that I was like,

00:21:35.051 --> 00:21:36.151
you know what, I'm tired of this.

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And at the time, her air conditioner wasn't quite keeping up for the heat of

00:21:40.831 --> 00:21:45.371
August, and I was tired of that, and I thought I could have a water cooler that

00:21:45.371 --> 00:21:48.291
would get me in the rain and air conditioned.

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And so that's kind of how she came in. I wasn't really looking for her,

00:21:53.091 --> 00:21:57.551
but it popped up on Facebook Marketplace, and it was yellow.

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Of course, that caught my attention,

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so honestly, I had seen maybe a dozen pictures of her, exterior only,

00:22:05.514 --> 00:22:08.694
and bought it outright. It was so cheap that I thought they would give me a

00:22:08.694 --> 00:22:13.494
project. I had no project at the time going on. They are really priced well still.

00:22:13.894 --> 00:22:19.194
Yeah. I love the Beetles, the new Beetle. They're priced well used.

00:22:19.194 --> 00:22:23.294
You can get a great car under 100,000 miles that'll run really,

00:22:23.354 --> 00:22:25.054
really strong for really cheap.

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Yes, yes. And I've enjoyed her. I know she's not air-cooled,

00:22:29.594 --> 00:22:31.274
but I'm not a hater. I love water-cooling.

00:22:31.474 --> 00:22:35.094
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Me too, me too. A hard top or convertible?

00:22:35.274 --> 00:22:37.694
Yeah, no, it's a hard top. It's a hard top? Okay, cool.

00:22:37.934 --> 00:22:42.274
Yeah, just envisioning it. So it's got the yellow, and then it has the yellow dash too, right?

00:22:43.234 --> 00:22:48.254
Well, no, because I've completely redid her. So her body, I didn't still- Tell me more. Tell me more.

00:22:48.774 --> 00:22:52.854
So when I got her, she was a hot mess. And I knew the price I paid,

00:22:52.874 --> 00:22:54.834
I was going to get kind of a clunker.

00:22:55.574 --> 00:22:59.654
But yeah, paint work was absolutely horrendous. She did have a couple of rust

00:22:59.654 --> 00:23:05.754
spots and a bunch of peeling paint on the one quarter panel that they did not show me pictures of.

00:23:05.954 --> 00:23:09.974
But her interior basically looked like a homeless person had lived in it for a month.

00:23:10.474 --> 00:23:15.934
Liner down, broken plastic pieces everywhere. And don't even get me started on the smell.

00:23:16.414 --> 00:23:18.914
I know everybody tells me there's a smell to Volkswagen.

00:23:20.034 --> 00:23:24.854
This one was like on steroids. Yeah.

00:23:25.354 --> 00:23:29.614
Maybe not the smell we want to remember. No, no. Everybody kept telling me,

00:23:29.854 --> 00:23:33.174
oh, it smells like crayons. No, it doesn't. It just stinks.

00:23:34.674 --> 00:23:38.934
But a couple of days running an Ozone generator in there kind of helped it out.

00:23:39.114 --> 00:23:42.114
And I just got busy busting her apart.

00:23:42.314 --> 00:23:47.314
She actually has proved to be the trickier one of all my Volkswagens to repair,

00:23:47.714 --> 00:23:49.674
mainly because of the plastic pieces.

00:23:50.214 --> 00:23:54.134
You know, you get these old ones. They're all metal. You can fabricate that.

00:23:54.934 --> 00:23:58.614
You can make plastic a little bit now with greedy printing and all,

00:23:58.714 --> 00:24:03.934
but that was the big trick with Fiona was all of the broken plastic pieces.

00:24:04.074 --> 00:24:05.914
I had to, you know, tearing her dash apart,

00:24:06.541 --> 00:24:12.021
Just little plastic tabs popping off everywhere. Well, there you aren't putting it back in.

00:24:12.221 --> 00:24:17.981
And at that sweet spot with being in 02, she was at that kind of that little

00:24:17.981 --> 00:24:24.301
spot where she's not old enough to get parts at a restoration kind of shop.

00:24:24.321 --> 00:24:28.321
But she's still too new, like finding parts.

00:24:28.501 --> 00:24:33.781
She hit that little window in there where she's like finding parts or you're

00:24:33.781 --> 00:24:37.061
looking at junkyard or you're having to kind of make them. Okay.

00:24:37.761 --> 00:24:43.301
Okay. But you did that successfully and she's all, she's, she's all macked out now.

00:24:43.601 --> 00:24:48.961
She, she is officially completed and it took more effort than I expected,

00:24:48.961 --> 00:24:51.601
but honestly, she's fun to toodle around.

00:24:51.781 --> 00:24:56.861
It, it was honestly the first Beetle I've ever owned. The first Beetle I ever actually rode in.

00:24:57.001 --> 00:25:00.801
And I was surprised at the room she had inside and how peppy is she is.

00:25:00.881 --> 00:25:05.181
She is a turbo, so she's got a little sportiness to her, which I enjoy,

00:25:05.341 --> 00:25:08.981
but out of all my cars, she's probably going to be the one that gets me a ticket,

00:25:08.981 --> 00:25:13.381
even over the muscle cars, because she's just so easy to speed in.

00:25:14.081 --> 00:25:15.481
Yeah, they ride well, too.

00:25:16.441 --> 00:25:21.801
Your husband, Mark, how does he react to all of these Volkswagens?

00:25:21.901 --> 00:25:24.361
I know you said he's a mechanic, so it's probably second nature,

00:25:24.581 --> 00:25:29.381
but is he just as much of a Volkswagen nut as you? Oh, no.

00:25:30.401 --> 00:25:37.881
It took me probably 10 or 15 years of him asking me, what's your dream car?

00:25:38.381 --> 00:25:40.441
And I would tell him a Volkswagen bus.

00:25:41.301 --> 00:25:48.021
And he would, oh, no, no, no. To the point he bought me one of the brand new C8 Corvettes.

00:25:49.032 --> 00:25:52.732
The last time we had the conversation, before I had the Phoebe,

00:25:52.992 --> 00:25:57.312
and as much as I love it, I'm still going to get in Phoebe these days.

00:25:58.272 --> 00:26:02.952
You know, he tried to sway me away from it. Right. Because he wasn't familiar

00:26:02.952 --> 00:26:04.492
with air-cooled engines.

00:26:05.012 --> 00:26:09.152
Right. And being in West Texas, we just didn't have a lot of Volkswagens out there.

00:26:09.232 --> 00:26:14.092
We still own a business in West Texas and work on cars day in and day out.

00:26:14.232 --> 00:26:15.732
We just run it remotely from here.

00:26:15.972 --> 00:26:21.412
Right. But Volkswagens were not something even our shop out there worked on very often.

00:26:21.832 --> 00:26:26.252
And so I think just him not having the knowledge and being so deep in the muscle

00:26:26.252 --> 00:26:29.652
cars, that's kind of where he leaned and tried to push me.

00:26:29.772 --> 00:26:32.412
But the dream of that Volkswagen just would not die.

00:26:32.832 --> 00:26:36.872
And so finally one day he was like, OK, if that's what you want,

00:26:36.992 --> 00:26:38.212
we're going to give it a try.

00:26:38.592 --> 00:26:43.352
So he wasn't he didn't hate Volkswagens. It just wasn't his favorite thing because

00:26:43.352 --> 00:26:45.532
he's more of a sporty kind of car guy.

00:26:46.974 --> 00:26:51.274
How about now, today? Fast forward to today. How do you feel now?

00:26:52.034 --> 00:26:54.914
I'm softening him on it.

00:26:55.054 --> 00:27:00.474
I will say the downside is with my buses, he can't really drive them.

00:27:00.614 --> 00:27:02.774
So he doesn't get the full experience.

00:27:02.954 --> 00:27:06.214
With Phoebe, he can fit in the front seat and the passenger side,

00:27:06.414 --> 00:27:10.374
but he better watch his knees because as I crank into fourth, I will jab you.

00:27:11.274 --> 00:27:14.254
So the but for that aspect he doesn't really

00:27:14.254 --> 00:27:17.114
enjoy my buses now i think he will probably would

00:27:17.114 --> 00:27:20.414
enjoy the bay window better because it's more roomy but

00:27:20.414 --> 00:27:23.134
unfortunately i've girled her out and made her pink and

00:27:23.134 --> 00:27:30.254
all girly so so uh that was kind of off but when i was redoing fiona my beetle

00:27:30.254 --> 00:27:34.054
i actually put some of the little fake eyelashes not the ones that stick up

00:27:34.054 --> 00:27:38.394
it's little vinyl wrap eyelashes and i made her girly yeah i sent him to the

00:27:38.394 --> 00:27:40.414
parts store one time and he came in and And he's like,

00:27:40.514 --> 00:27:43.594
the eyelashes have to go or I will never drive this beetle again.

00:27:44.814 --> 00:27:48.574
Then he pulled up to the parts store and there were like four men staring out

00:27:48.574 --> 00:27:52.474
the window as he gets out of this little yellow beetle with bees all over it

00:27:52.474 --> 00:27:54.174
and eyelashes. Oh, my goodness.

00:27:54.874 --> 00:27:57.514
Well, let's talk about something that he does approve of then.

00:27:57.734 --> 00:28:01.474
Let's talk about this stealth beetle kit car concept.

00:28:01.914 --> 00:28:05.534
This is interesting. I know it's still in a crate, but just tell me a little

00:28:05.534 --> 00:28:10.934
bit about how you stumbled across this thought, I guess. and then turned it into a reality.

00:28:11.134 --> 00:28:14.914
And I don't know, maybe just like what your reactions were when you first kind of stumbled across it.

00:28:15.481 --> 00:28:20.201
Well, late night scrolling on YouTube isn't always your best friend.

00:28:21.421 --> 00:28:24.861
And it was just one of those, you know, can't turn your brain off,

00:28:24.961 --> 00:28:29.341
sit on the computer, watch Volkswagen stuff. And here comes this Beetle.

00:28:29.681 --> 00:28:35.221
I love the look of the old style Beetles more than I do my little Fiona.

00:28:35.541 --> 00:28:38.841
But I just haven't gotten to one of those projects. When I saw that,

00:28:39.021 --> 00:28:43.661
the immediate thing that popped into my brain was my love of Volkswagens,

00:28:43.661 --> 00:28:47.361
his love of the, like, sportier cars.

00:28:47.621 --> 00:28:51.581
And since we're always in the shop together, most of the time I'm tinkering

00:28:51.581 --> 00:28:53.661
on my stuff and he's tinkering on his stuff.

00:28:53.881 --> 00:28:59.821
And I thought this was something that we could merge and make our little Volkswagen hot rod baby out of.

00:29:00.621 --> 00:29:04.641
So cool. So that's where that started. But tell me just, I guess,

00:29:04.661 --> 00:29:07.221
a little bit more, like, what was it like the day that it arrived?

00:29:07.221 --> 00:29:09.861
I know you ordered it from South Africa, right?

00:29:10.201 --> 00:29:14.561
Correct, correct. It comes in from South Africa. I think this one will be about

00:29:14.561 --> 00:29:19.221
the 10th or 12th one imported to the U.S., so it's going to be a super, super fun build.

00:29:19.481 --> 00:29:23.901
Wow, wow. But the great aspect of it was not anything special.

00:29:24.421 --> 00:29:31.061
He showed up after dark, basic enormous crate on a skid truck.

00:29:31.421 --> 00:29:38.461
Okay. Luckily, I had a forklift on my property. Otherwise, we might have had an issue. Sure, I bet.

00:29:39.221 --> 00:29:43.401
Yeah, so basically it was just plopped it into my driveway and I sat there and

00:29:43.401 --> 00:29:46.181
stared at a box and then went to bed for the night.

00:29:47.581 --> 00:29:52.601
Because I don't want to dig into the box right now. It's all in bits and pieces.

00:29:53.161 --> 00:29:57.921
So it does not resemble a chassis at all.

00:29:58.041 --> 00:30:03.221
It does not resemble a car at all. It just looks like a bunch of metal pieces

00:30:03.221 --> 00:30:09.001
laying in a crate. But it's built on a 69 beetle body, right?

00:30:09.602 --> 00:30:15.762
The only Volkswagen thing on this will be the shell of the Beetle. That's right.

00:30:16.002 --> 00:30:21.562
We'll have an Audi suspension, an F-engine, so it will be a beast of its own.

00:30:21.662 --> 00:30:25.702
We will have to quarter the body to get to on final assembly.

00:30:25.922 --> 00:30:29.482
And the back fender wells will have to be bigger because of the wheelbase.

00:30:29.722 --> 00:30:33.062
I'm going to lose the back seat because the engine is going to be so much bigger

00:30:33.062 --> 00:30:36.242
that I'm going to have to use that space to get the engine.

00:30:36.822 --> 00:30:41.722
I'm excited. I can't wait. I love the Volksrod, you know, builds.

00:30:42.022 --> 00:30:43.482
I can't wait to see this thing.

00:30:43.802 --> 00:30:46.202
That's a plus three.

00:30:46.562 --> 00:30:50.982
It's going to be so cool. So it's going to sound so good. I think Felix will

00:30:50.982 --> 00:30:54.502
probably piss off some purists, but that's, that's awesome because,

00:30:54.562 --> 00:30:59.542
you know, I think one of the reasons why the culture and the people are so awesome

00:30:59.542 --> 00:31:01.242
is because everybody's welcome,

00:31:01.462 --> 00:31:05.422
including a 525 horsepower Volksrod.

00:31:05.642 --> 00:31:07.282
Let's go. That's so awesome.

00:31:07.882 --> 00:31:10.222
I'd end up having to put wheelie bars on that one.

00:31:11.342 --> 00:31:17.422
So cool. So let's talk about your name, Volkswagen Barbie. Tell me how that nickname came up.

00:31:17.762 --> 00:31:22.882
Well, semi self-imposed. Basically, when I'm cruising in Phoebe,

00:31:23.682 --> 00:31:28.882
Everyone in town, you're going to notice a bright yellow bread box going down

00:31:28.882 --> 00:31:31.162
the highway and people pay attention.

00:31:31.382 --> 00:31:34.942
Well, with all those windows, what do they see? They see me jamming.

00:31:36.362 --> 00:31:41.022
It's inevitable. I cannot control it. It is going to come out and I move and

00:31:41.022 --> 00:31:46.722
shake and jam and peace and wave every time I'm in her. Oh, that's such good energy, man.

00:31:47.002 --> 00:31:50.622
Some of my girlfriends happened to like I didn't see them because I was too

00:31:50.622 --> 00:31:52.182
busy in my own little work there.

00:31:52.182 --> 00:31:55.062
But some of my girlfriends happened to see me at a red light

00:31:55.062 --> 00:31:58.242
one day and the next time we had our girls meet and they were like so

00:31:58.242 --> 00:32:01.462
uh you know you're gonna be called the crazy volkswagen

00:32:01.462 --> 00:32:05.502
lady around town and i thought rather than be called the crazy volkswagen lady

00:32:05.502 --> 00:32:11.722
i would just own it and say hey i'm volkswagen barbie peace out and so that's

00:32:11.722 --> 00:32:16.782
kind of how it happened and everybody who knows me knows my passion for volkswagen

00:32:16.782 --> 00:32:20.622
so it just kind of fit and it rolls off the tongue easy So, hey,

00:32:21.042 --> 00:32:27.202
do you see the VW world as more of a culture than it is a hobby,

00:32:27.342 --> 00:32:29.602
more of a feeling than it is just a hobby?

00:32:30.082 --> 00:32:35.562
Oh, for sure. For sure. You know, the cultural aspect of it is really what drew

00:32:35.562 --> 00:32:37.542
me to the community itself.

00:32:37.702 --> 00:32:42.182
Like I said, I've tried other car clubs. You know, I'm still members of Corvette

00:32:42.182 --> 00:32:43.402
clubs and stuff like that.

00:32:43.402 --> 00:32:49.062
But the culture of the Volkswagen community is something that reminds me of

00:32:49.062 --> 00:32:56.282
a better time, better people, where if you break down, somebody is going to come to your rescue.

00:32:56.742 --> 00:33:01.862
Over the time that you have been spending in the culture, getting your hands,

00:33:01.942 --> 00:33:06.362
you know, I guess, dirty, coming up with these builds, these ideas,

00:33:06.582 --> 00:33:10.462
spending all this money, you know, having all this fun, making all these videos, right?

00:33:10.872 --> 00:33:14.712
What's some of the most valuable lessons that you've been taught later in life

00:33:14.712 --> 00:33:17.992
on kind of finding this new culture, new hobby?

00:33:18.272 --> 00:33:22.572
Slowing down. I know that sounds ironic coming from me, but it has helped.

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Slow down and enjoy everything.

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I'm going to move at a faster pace than most people. That's just how I roll.

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If you could go back to give your 20-year-old self advice, what would you say? Same thing? Slow down?

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Yeah. Slow down, slow down, but get into Volkswagen sooner.

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My dad told me that I got goosebumps because that's one of the,

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the, the biggest kind of quotes I take away from my childhood.

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My father always saying to me, he's still around, but I felt it when you said

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it, because he used to say to me all the time, son, you got to slow down.

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What's the rush. Yeah.

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Right. What's the rush. And I used to be like, well, it's this,

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and that's the reason. And this is the, you know, I defend it all the time.

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My pace was always just, you know, a million miles an hour, but slow down is,

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is really, really, really good advice.

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What's your response to people that don't really understand the Volkswagen culture,

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don't really understand the feeling that we get, but when they tell you it's just a car.

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Honestly, I don't really have much of a response for them. I'm going to live

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it vicariously. I'm going to show them.

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They're not going to listen to words because they're not going to understand

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or get it. But if they're around me long enough, they understand it.

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The joy is so infectious. It will get you.

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I got some rapid fire questions I want to roll through with you.

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These are going to demand a fast response.

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If a story comes out of it, awesome. If not, it's okay as well. Are you ready? Let's go.

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All right. How about favorite road trip snack? Definitely chips.

00:35:08.364 --> 00:35:12.764
You have to have potato chips. I'm a simple girl. Give me some salt and potatoes and carbs.

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Okay. Okay. If you could road trip Phoebe anywhere in the world, where would you go?

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Oh, a thousand percent. I would load her on, ship her over to the Germany-Austria border.

00:35:23.364 --> 00:35:26.564
Wow. Cool. Cool. Is there anything specific you want to see there?

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The countryside, honestly, I spent some time over there doing some World War II tours.

00:35:32.352 --> 00:35:37.252
Whoa. And it was absolutely impeccably beautiful. Rolling hills. Fuck.

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Yeah. Yeah, okay. The things dreams are made of, for sure. I can see that.

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All right, how about Dream Celebrity Co-Pilot?

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Oh, no-brainer. Steven Tyler.

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Oh, cool. I'm a fan, and I'm telling you that Ben would have the stories and entertain me for hours.

00:35:54.932 --> 00:35:58.492
VW Show. VW Show. that you'd never miss?

00:35:59.432 --> 00:36:02.612
Obviously, the Rare Air Emerald Coast Volkswagen Club.

00:36:03.292 --> 00:36:06.712
Obviously, yeah, yeah. Put my blood, sweat, and tears into it.

00:36:06.812 --> 00:36:08.912
No way I'm going to miss that one. Okay.

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It'll actually be our 29th annual anniversary, so this has been long in the running.

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Last year, we had, I think, close to 200 Volkswagens here.

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Nice. Nice turnout. It's always a good time, good camping, good people.

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How can people find that show, give them give that that shout out yeah everybody

00:36:28.412 --> 00:36:34.632
can find out about our show we've got an event and a a page both posted on facebook

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look for the 29th annual anniversary rare air emerald coast volkswagen club it's awesome.

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How about hardest part? Hardest part about being a VW owner? Hardest part?

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I don't consider anything really hard. The hardest part I'm running to throughout

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it all was when I was down and I only had one Volkswagen.

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Having a Volkswagen down and it's your only one, that was the hardest part.

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But now that I've got multiples, there's nothing really that ruffles my feathers.

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Okay. I can take that. I can take that.

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Hardest part. Let me think. if I had to answer that question,

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hardest part for me would be not,

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and this is more of maybe something I'm admitting than something I'm,

00:37:21.366 --> 00:37:28.406
but anyway, I'd say not every single day am I as happy as I can be.

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But when I get in my car, it's impossible for me to not have the kind of the

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people that smile, give me thumbs up.

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I hear all kinds of people yelling at me, especially when my windshields down

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and, you know, and I'm cruising, I got a thing. So it creates a lot of attention.

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But I guess my point was, I'm not always in the, in the mood to deal with the

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happiness that's thrown my way.

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So I would say the hardest part is changing that switch every single time I get in my car.

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But in defense of that, sometimes that's why I get in my car.

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Exactly what I do. Right. I'm like, you know what? I'm having a tough day.

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I'm going cruising and I come home and I sure ain't having a tough day anymore.

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Funny thing is, if I wake up and I'm in a cranky mood, because it does happen

00:38:16.762 --> 00:38:21.302
occasionally, but if I'm even remotely cranky, all my husband does is tell me,

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go for a ride in your Volkswagen. Yeah, see, that's what I'm talking about.

00:38:25.062 --> 00:38:29.362
Yeah. So to me, that's kind of the hard part is, you know, is turning that switch,

00:38:29.602 --> 00:38:34.362
you know, because some, yeah, but anyhow, okay. How about this one? This is a good one.

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Most overrated VW model of all time.

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Overrated. Come on now. Now, my mama told me if there wasn't anything nice to

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say, not to say anything at all.

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All right. Let's go flip side then. How about underrated? What's the most underrated VW model?

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I'm kind of partial to the Karmann Ghias.

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You don't see them as much. And a lot of people, not necessarily in the Volkswagen

00:38:58.742 --> 00:39:02.882
community, but just out in public in general, a lot of people don't understand

00:39:02.882 --> 00:39:04.402
what that is. You're right.

00:39:04.862 --> 00:39:10.402
And appreciate it. So, to me, that probably is going to sneak up in a future project one day.

00:39:10.662 --> 00:39:16.082
Cool. Yeah. We, my wife has one. It was the only Volkswagen that she wanted,

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especially after she did some research

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and, you know, found out how it was designed and all that fun stuff.

00:39:21.602 --> 00:39:26.962
But then our snag or our hangup was she didn't want to drive a stick shift.

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She was like, no, if I'm going to get a classic car, I'm going to get one.

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I can, you know, I can, I can enjoy.

00:39:31.342 --> 00:39:33.862
I don't want to have to work that hard. I'm like, oh, okay.

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So I found her a Carmagea, which is a 71 with an auto clutch, auto stick.

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So there's no clutch. So there's no excuse.

00:39:43.782 --> 00:39:49.122
One owner, 46,000 miles sitting up in a barn in Pennsylvania. Oh man.

00:39:49.582 --> 00:39:53.742
Oh yeah, man. I drove up there and snagged that thing a couple of years ago.

00:39:53.942 --> 00:39:59.522
But yeah, that's her car. She loves the Carmagea. It's a great,

00:39:59.582 --> 00:40:01.902
but what you said is so true.

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All the time, we're driving that thing. If we're downtown, we park it,

00:40:06.182 --> 00:40:09.162
we're getting lunch. Even though it's got, you know,

00:40:09.739 --> 00:40:13.439
labels and, and, you know, branding on it. People always say,

00:40:13.899 --> 00:40:15.279
man, what the hell is that thing?

00:40:15.859 --> 00:40:19.319
Right. And like, oh, it's a Karmagea. They're like, that's a Volkswagen.

00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:25.559
Like, yeah, it's not, you know, to us that are in the culture, we see them everywhere.

00:40:25.779 --> 00:40:29.499
It's not that big of a deal. I'm like desensitized to it, but you're right to

00:40:29.499 --> 00:40:32.319
the public. They always wonder what it is. Yeah.

00:40:32.899 --> 00:40:37.379
Yeah. Okay. All right. How about parting advice?

00:40:37.699 --> 00:40:43.279
If you have, what do you want to tell the Volkswagen community? Any parting advice?

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Never lose your sparkle. You know, honestly, if I were to give advice.

00:40:49.538 --> 00:40:54.338
Don't be afraid to tackle things on your own. YouTube and the Volkswagen community

00:40:54.338 --> 00:40:58.698
itself, the family that we are, you will be trained.

00:40:58.998 --> 00:41:00.938
Just take the risk.

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Go out there. Make it happen. I had Annie's VW on recently on the podcast,

00:41:08.058 --> 00:41:13.018
and she said something that was so awesome that I'll repeat now.

00:41:13.018 --> 00:41:19.758
Now, she said when a woman is in a shop setting and she asks a question,

00:41:19.758 --> 00:41:24.918
it doesn't mean that she wants you to take the tool from her and go show her.

00:41:25.158 --> 00:41:30.538
She just wants the guidance and wants you to guide her or whatever,

00:41:30.538 --> 00:41:35.238
but she wants to do the damn stuff herself. So she's like, stop taking the tools

00:41:35.238 --> 00:41:36.838
out of the woman's hands.

00:41:37.078 --> 00:41:40.978
I thought that was like so awesome. Yeah, I will say most of,

00:41:41.078 --> 00:41:43.218
you know, most of the people that help me with my bus, because,

00:41:43.378 --> 00:41:45.918
you know, I'm not going to pull a suspension out just by myself.

00:41:46.078 --> 00:41:50.898
I've got all the equipment raising table, but it requires extra hands from time to time.

00:41:51.018 --> 00:41:55.398
But with Farrah right now, I've got Joe over here helping me.

00:41:55.498 --> 00:42:00.938
And every time he tries to take a tool, I'm like, no, if I can do that, I want that.

00:42:01.378 --> 00:42:05.278
You might have to tell me, you might have to show me, but then my hands are

00:42:05.278 --> 00:42:09.698
going to do it so that I learn for next time. And I'm also video documenting

00:42:09.698 --> 00:42:14.578
all of this as I'm going along, because I know there will be parts of it that I'll forget, you know.

00:42:14.798 --> 00:42:19.318
And so for future reference, I will be able to go back on the tags that I have

00:42:19.318 --> 00:42:23.278
put on all my videos and immediately figure out if I'm working on a door and have an issue.

00:42:23.378 --> 00:42:26.798
If I'm working on an engine and having issues, go watch my own videos.

00:42:27.538 --> 00:42:30.258
Oh, cool. Yeah, good, good cue.

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Where can people find you? Just in case they don't know, which a lot of the

00:42:35.898 --> 00:42:40.558
community does know, but just in case somebody is inspired and they're listening

00:42:40.558 --> 00:42:44.698
to this podcast, they don't know who you are just yet, where can they find you and follow the journey?

00:42:45.361 --> 00:42:50.601
Hey, well, I kept it really simple, and I was actually shocked that all of these

00:42:50.601 --> 00:42:51.941
had not been taken already.

00:42:52.181 --> 00:42:57.021
But honestly, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Volkswagen Barbie.

00:42:57.541 --> 00:43:02.581
Keep it simple, straight across on all platforms. Y'all, check her out.

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She's so much fun. She's so animated.

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The mechanical knowledge, everything's there, and everything's in the videos. It's so much fun.

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And that's a wrap for this episode of Dove Life Diaries.

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